Rare jean87510 Posted December 12, 2020 #101 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, suzyluvs2cruise said: I can see using an app or something similar when you have cell/data coverage but am curious how that would work when you're in a country/place where you don't. Ex.....embarkation in a foreign port. Try downloading it to your phone. Very easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted December 12, 2020 #102 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Whatever app is used, if one is used, would provide a unique identifier that the entity checking should be able to use to verify validity. Once the app has your vaccination registered there should be no need for internet access as it should be cached on the device. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted December 15, 2020 #103 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 2:22 PM, yogimax said: The election is OVER! Not much gets past ya.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbonner Posted December 16, 2020 #104 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 12/12/2020 at 7:51 AM, Iamcruzin said: They sell vaccine certificate cards on Amazon. They come with a vinyl cover. Only 20 left. I assume most US citizen do not know the yellow colored "International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis" document as shown above. THIS is the only worldwide standard to prove vaccination when you travel outside the USA. In continents like Europe they come with birth and are free of charge. The document contains all of your vaccinations you received so far. This only ww document -which is owned by billions of people (outside the USA)- is authorized, approved and recognized by all countries membering WHO - oops, the USA just withdrew from WHO..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted December 16, 2020 #105 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Vaccine deliveries to Florida are being delayed due to production issues. Not sure if other states are also affected. What a surprise😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cured Posted December 17, 2020 #106 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Our local news did a story on Clear and what they are doing to design the app to track vaccinations. Apparently, it will be part of their CLEAR healthpass. https://www.clearme.com/healthpass The COVID vaccination part apparently will flash green on your phone to tell companies that you have received the vaccine. I have been told by health professional family that the paper that is being given when you get your 1st vaccine is to let you and your physician know which vaccine you received, especially when multiple vaccines come out. It is to help prevent getting the Pfizer vaccine for the first dose and the Moderna for the 2nd dose. Since they work differently, you cannot mix them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted December 17, 2020 #107 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, cured said: Our local news did a story on Clear and what they are doing to design the app to track vaccinations. Apparently, it will be part of their CLEAR healthpass. https://www.clearme.com/healthpass The COVID vaccination part apparently will flash green on your phone to tell companies that you have received the vaccine. I have been told by health professional family that the paper that is being given when you get your 1st vaccine is to let you and your physician know which vaccine you received, especially when multiple vaccines come out. It is to help prevent getting the Pfizer vaccine for the first dose and the Moderna for the 2nd dose. Since they work differently, you cannot mix them. Well stated, not to track who has/has not received toward any future enforcement more of a long term see if any adverse effects/how it performs, when received and Version. Back to thread topic, As Biden and Fauci have said no Mandate for all to receive. Along with a Cruise Line CEO or 2 have stated Legally probably not enforceable, they'd loose in Court...at least in USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomad098 Posted December 17, 2020 #108 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, ONECRUISER said: Well stated, not to track who has/has not received toward any future enforcement more of a long term see if any adverse effects/how it performs, when received and Version. Back to thread topic, As Biden and Fauci have said no Mandate for all to receive. Along with a Cruise Line CEO or 2 have stated Legally probably not enforceable, they'd loose in Court...at least in USA If an airline, train company, bus company, cruise line introduced a policy that infringed on free movement of EU citizens within the EU without EU approval then they would be going against the fundamental principles of the EU. The UK tried to get the EU to move on this principle of free movement of people and we know how that worked out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
later Posted December 17, 2020 #109 Share Posted December 17, 2020 19 hours ago, molly361 said: Vaccine deliveries to Florida are being delayed due to production issues. Not sure if other states are also affected. What a surprise😇 Florida has got some delivered. My youngest daughter is a RN for advent health and they have the vaccine. but you are right that the original numbers are lower due to past production ingredient/material supplies not being readily available. I am pretty sure this supply chain concern has now been corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted December 17, 2020 #110 Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 8:45 AM, nelblu said: Vaccination cards will be issued to track of C!9 shots. This is in coordination with DOD, CDC & HHS. Also a way for Cruise Lines, Airlines, etc. in case they require proof before traveling. See the following article, Covid-19 Vaccination Recipients Will Receive Vaccine Card - Travel Codex I'm going to put mine in a decorative frame when this is all said and done - just as a reminder of what we all went through together. On 12/10/2020 at 1:59 PM, Tree_skier said: You'll need Covid ID to go to a restaurant or football game but no ID required to vote... That is rational. People in cemeteries need to vote too Skier - leave them alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted December 17, 2020 #111 Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 5:42 AM, Kbonner said: I assume most US citizen do not know the yellow colored "International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis" document as shown above. THIS is the only worldwide standard to prove vaccination when you travel outside the USA. In continents like Europe they come with birth and are free of charge. The document contains all of your vaccinations you received so far. This only ww document -which is owned by billions of people (outside the USA)- is authorized, approved and recognized by all countries membering WHO - oops, the USA just withdrew from WHO..... I'm sure we will be back in no time. They need the funding! Don't worry, we'll pay for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fla33023 Posted December 18, 2020 #112 Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 8:30 AM, later said: Florida has got some delivered. My youngest daughter is a RN for advent health and they have the vaccine. but you are right that the original numbers are lower due to past production ingredient/material supplies not being readily available. I am pretty sure this supply chain concern has now been corrected. It hasn't been. A family member at Jackson Memorial in Miami said everyone who they planned to get vaccinated will not be as they're not receiving what had initially been allocated. Most will have to wait for the second shipment which doesn't have a clear date (as of yesterday.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted December 18, 2020 #113 Share Posted December 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, fla33023 said: It hasn't been. A family member at Jackson Memorial in Miami said everyone who they planned to get vaccinated will not be as they're not receiving what had initially been allocated. Most will have to wait for the second shipment which doesn't have a clear date (as of yesterday.) The distribution schedule for the first Pfizer shipment that was laid out for Florida didn't have every hospital getting their allotment on the same (first) day. The schedule called for a rollout over three-four days which would mean the last group of hospitals getting their first shipment yesterday or today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
later Posted December 18, 2020 #114 Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, fla33023 said: It hasn't been. A family member at Jackson Memorial in Miami said everyone who they planned to get vaccinated will not be as they're not receiving what had initially been allocated. Most will have to wait for the second shipment which doesn't have a clear date (as of yesterday.) My daughter is getting the vaccine today. So it depends I guess in what hospital chain you work for. Advent Health/Florida Hospitals here got the vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerer Tim Posted December 18, 2020 #115 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Received my first shot of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday and have a COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card. I also registered through the state health department so have no doubt they keep records. Next shot in three weeks. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted December 18, 2020 Author #116 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Sorcerer Tim said: Received my first shot of the Pfizer vaccine yesterday and have a COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card. I also registered through the state health department so have no doubt they keep records. Next shot in three weeks. If possible, please keep us abreast if any reactions. Edited December 18, 2020 by nelblu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishLips23 Posted December 19, 2020 #117 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I had the first shot on Thursday morning (healthcare worker). You get a vaccination record card that states manufacturer/lot number/date given and when to return for the next dose. I had mild soreness at the injection site that lasted 24 hours, normal for any shot. Get it when you can. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted December 19, 2020 Author #118 Share Posted December 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, FishLips23 said: I had the first shot on Thursday morning (healthcare worker). You get a vaccination record card that states manufacturer/lot number/date given and when to return for the next dose. I had mild soreness at the injection site that lasted 24 hours, normal for any shot. Get it when you can. Do you know how many follow-up shots. Do you know if like the flu shot it's an annual event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishLips23 Posted December 19, 2020 #119 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, nelblu said: Do you know how many follow-up shots. Do you know if like the flu shot it's an annual event. I don't think anyone knows if booster shots will be necessary yet, considering people have only been vaccinated since July at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted December 19, 2020 #120 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, nelblu said: Do you know how many follow-up shots. Do you know if like the flu shot it's an annual event. No one knows the answer to your questions. Only time will provide that information. My hospital started vaccinations this morning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The sea calls my name Posted December 19, 2020 #121 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: No one knows the answer to your questions. Only time will provide that information. My hospital started vaccinations this morning. Personal question. Are you planning on taking it and promote it? ( disclaimer, I did not read the entire thread so if you have already answered this I apologize). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted December 19, 2020 #122 Share Posted December 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, The sea calls my name said: Personal question. Are you planning on taking it and promote it? ( disclaimer, I did not read the entire thread so if you have already answered this I apologize). I can't answer your question with a simple yes or no so I really don't want to get into a long discussion about it. Sorry, I hope that I am not coming across as being rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The sea calls my name Posted December 19, 2020 #123 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Never Ocean Boy. I am just trying to get as much info from as many Physicians as I can. I have a 45 year history of Sarcoidosis and now severe COPD. I just retired from 44 years of nursing this summer. So am conflicted on safety of this vaccine and the rapid trial data and my need to be protected. Take care and Merry Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelhound Posted December 19, 2020 #124 Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: No one knows the answer to your questions. Only time will provide that information. My hospital started vaccinations this morning. Several hospitals in our area have started vaccinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelhound Posted December 19, 2020 #125 Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 hours ago, FishLips23 said: I had the first shot on Thursday morning (healthcare worker). You get a vaccination record card that states manufacturer/lot number/date given and when to return for the next dose. I had mild soreness at the injection site that lasted 24 hours, normal for any shot. Get it when you can. That's good to hear. My entire family will get vaccinated ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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