Rare JimmyVWine Posted March 28, 2022 #326 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Redwing55 said: The positivity rate is unknown for another reason. With the widespread availability of home test kits, most people who test positive are finding out at home with no requirement that they report in their results. If you test positive and self-medicate ( or just wait it out) at home, you pass through the whole process without a soul knowing unless you choose to tell someone. Because of this, the positivity rate in any measurable population has to be way higher than any statistic based on out-of-the-home PCR testing. Edited March 28, 2022 by JimmyVWine 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisingawayfromthesnow! Posted March 28, 2022 #327 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Thanks for the updates - did you get a choice of hotel? Is it a brand name hotel? How will you get food? Hope you are both okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLM3164 Posted March 28, 2022 #328 Share Posted March 28, 2022 @FirstIn71All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HaveDogWillTravel Posted March 28, 2022 #329 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Joy_K said: I could not join him. Thank you for sharing your experiences. I hope you will consider continuing to keep us updated as you sail to HA and back. I hope DH does not feel too poorly and rejoins you soon. It’s a good thing you were able to advocate on the outside for him though. Perhaps a meeting with the director of guest services or the hotel general manager is in order to highlight the lack of priority of room service to those in quarantine. This simply is unacceptable. I am wondering if not joining DH in quarantine was your choice or did Princess forbid it? In the recent posts and also from a conversation I had with medical on board the Ruby this year negative passengers could choose to quarantine with positive travel companions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvpends Posted March 28, 2022 #330 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Does anyone know what strain of Covid-19 we had in Ruby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy_K Posted March 28, 2022 #331 Share Posted March 28, 2022 53 minutes ago, HaveDogWillTravel said: I am wondering if not joining DH in quarantine was your choice or did Princess forbid it? In the recent posts and also from a conversation I had with medical on board the Ruby this year negative passengers could choose to quarantine with positive travel companions. I was not given the choice to join him. When the phone call came that he was positive and I was negative they started with choice then I heard someone in background saying no, no, no can't offer that now. Perhaps this is a recent change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrongwaywatson Posted March 28, 2022 #332 Share Posted March 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Ombud said: Yes which to an area experiencing 1.4% that's HUGE!! Wow 😱 But the 100 number included traveling companions of people who were quarantined for testing positive. We aren't sure how many actually tested positive out of that 100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalLuvsCrusingToo Posted March 28, 2022 #333 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Somewhere in one of the posts the number was 120. Not counting those who found out they were positive when they got home. I wonder if the CDC would qualify this as RED level? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrongwaywatson Posted March 28, 2022 #334 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, CalLuvsCrusingToo said: Somewhere in one of the posts the number was 120. Not counting those who found out they were positive when they got home. I wonder if the CDC would qualify this as RED level? But the OP said that there were 100 people taken off the ship when they docked, before the rest of the passengers got off? That number included traveling companions of the person infected. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akit Posted March 28, 2022 #335 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I could not believe how long the line was at Pier 27 today in San Francisco. I'm not a passenger, just wanted to take photos of the ship from Coit Tower and down at the dock. Never seen such a long line before; pre-pandemic, I was in the terminal building within a few minutes. Just looking at all the people in line, many not masked. Knowing the ship had positive cases, this could explain why such a long wait. 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KruzPrincess Posted March 28, 2022 #336 Share Posted March 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, wrongwaywatson said: But the OP said that there were 100 people taken off the ship when they docked, before the rest of the passengers got off? That number included traveling companions of the person infected. The person said that his wife counted over 100 and we don’t know if that was the total group. B2B people were allowed to stay on the ship. There were people who are just finding out when they get home they have it. There were probably people who self tested on board and didn’t report it. Someone said there were 120, but it’s obvious that there were more. Less than 1600 passengers and more than 120 people have Covid. Imagine what could happen with 3000 passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted March 28, 2022 #337 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Akit said: I could not believe how long the line was at Pier 27 today in San Francisco. I'm not a passenger, just wanted to take photos of the ship from Coit Tower and down at the dock. Never seen such a long line before; pre-pandemic, I was in the terminal building within a few minutes. Just looking at all the people in line, many not masked. Knowing the ship had positive cases, this could explain why such a long wait. At what time did you take the photographs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akit Posted March 28, 2022 #338 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, brisalta said: At what time did you take the photographs? 12:30-ish near Coit Tower, and 1:30-ish at the pier. From walking by the lines, there was at least two of them funneling into the terminal building, and it was moving slowly. Did see passengers slowly get aboard, few on their balconies at 1:30. Update: Ship left SF at 6:18PM via VesselFinder. Edited March 28, 2022 by Akit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted March 28, 2022 #339 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 hours ago, ssbeagle said: I just noticed we live in the same city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HappyInVan Posted March 28, 2022 #340 Share Posted March 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Joy_K said: I was not given the choice to join him. When the phone call came that he was positive and I was negative they started with choice then I heard someone in background saying no, no, no can't offer that now. Oh Dear! Just as well. You would certainly have been infected if you had joined your DH in isolation. This way, Princess doesn't add you to the numbers they report to the CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfamm Posted March 28, 2022 #341 Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 8:54 PM, Bgwest said: I’ve just stumbled my way through all 8 pages and find that I’m curious about something. Apart from the single cruiser who describes this as being the worst experience ever (or similar words), I’ve not seen other posts describing being really sick. Yes, posts describing positive test results and some sore throats but happily, nothing serious sounding. If cold and mild flu symptoms are all that are being reported (apart from the aforementioned poster), what’s all the fuss about? Please don’t misunderstand, I pray for a speedy recovery for those who are ill. I’m just confused about the “serious outbreak”. There isn’t now, nor has there ever been a prohibition against mask wearing by any cruise line. If it provides peace of mind, wear one. Or two. Or three. Or alternatively, as has already been suggested, if nothing else works, vote with your wallet and avoid cruising. Even if you feel fine, a positive COVID test can keep you from being able to return home. This is a huge problem for a lot of people. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rare Honolulu Blue Posted March 28, 2022 #343 Share Posted March 28, 2022 6 hours ago, CalLuvsCrusingToo said: Somewhere in one of the posts the number was 120. Not counting those who found out they were positive when they got home. I wonder if the CDC would qualify this as RED level? I don't think so. I haven't seen or heard of a ship classified as RED by the CDC ever. And the Ruby kicked out all its passengers (including the positive ones), loaded up new passengers (including, hopefully, no new positive ones 😛), and headed out yesterday evening. All of this with the CDC's blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfMHC Posted March 28, 2022 #344 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Looks like what we experienced January 16 at Pier 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HaveDogWillTravel Posted March 28, 2022 #345 Share Posted March 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Joy_K said: I was not given the choice to join him. When the phone call came that he was positive and I was negative they started with choice then I heard someone in background saying no, no, no can't offer that now. Perhaps this is a recent change. Thank you for answering my question. It does sound like a new change. It seems the response system became a bit taxed. I am sure in a caregiver situation (child or elder) an exception would be made. This is the reason the medical officer gave me when I asked if one could choose. Take care and smooth sailing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HaveDogWillTravel Posted March 28, 2022 #346 Share Posted March 28, 2022 @Joy_Kor anyone else currently onboard. Did the Captain keep the masking order in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCcruisecrazy Posted March 28, 2022 #347 Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 9:41 AM, AZjohn said: Just got a text back from him. He said an announcement was made last night that some passengers and crew had Covid symptoms, and everyone must wear masks outside their cabin. He also heard from a crew member that many entertainers caught Covid during their stop in Costa Rica (who knows how true this might be). He said he had worn his mask the whole trip. He said many passengers also did while many did not. Nobody is going to know all the facts or numbers with this one COVID Symptoms? So it wasn't reported that people tested positive? COVID symptoms could be the same as a dozen other things. Just curious, did they actually say people tested positive so the mask mandate was being initiated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PescadoAmarillo Posted March 28, 2022 #348 Share Posted March 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, HaveDogWillTravel said: @Joy_Kor anyone else currently onboard. Did the Captain keep the masking order in place? As far as I know, it’s recommended but not required. But many people (possibility most) are wearing masks. We are wearing masks. There was really only one line to go into the terminal yesterday. There was a much shorter line for people who needed to be tested. I don’t know if that then got them a faster entrance into the terminal (it would have been worth it). I waited at least 90 minutes outside, and it was amazing to me that, the line where I started in it grew to become as long as the line I waited in, so I could extrapolate that to mean the outside line grew to be three hours long. About 3:30pm, the captain announced that there were still people waiting to board. We did not sail until about 6pm. I felt so badly for those people older than me who had to stand all that time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted March 28, 2022 #349 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, HaveDogWillTravel said: Thank you for answering my question. It does sound like a new change. It seems the response system became a bit taxed. I am sure in a caregiver situation (child or elder) an exception would be made. This is the reason the medical officer gave me when I asked if one could choose. Take care and smooth sailing. I believe that change was in the voluntary participation requirements when the CDC offered that program to the cruiselines. No cohorting of positive and negative passengers. I know they can’t take that stance for caretakers, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted March 28, 2022 #350 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 hours ago, ProfMHC said: Looks like what we experienced January 16 at Pier 27 We were on the cruise right before that one and the one right after that one. We really lucked out as we understood both had really long lines to board… ours? Not so much, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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