Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 #1 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) I felt like it was easier to start a separate thread so as not to get lost in the shuffle of the current threads on the subject of the new vaping policy. The Marketing & Revenue director took time to sit down with me and hear my concerns about the new policy. She was extremely engaging and took notes to pass along to corporate. While she maintained that this is only a test and no final decision has been made, she admitted that A LOT of feedback has been received and based on this, corporate has instructed that the signage be removed in favor of word of mouth instead. I raised several concerns including: 1. Enforcement of the “while actively playing” rule and mentioned the vapers who were vaping while watching the slot tournament. 2. The awkward position it puts the crew in who have to enforce the policy. 3. The health concerns for everyone. 4. The changing of the Celebrity brand and what attracted me to Celebrity in the first place 5. What changes will this open the door to if this is implemented permanently? Our conversation concluded with assurances that the feedback was valuable and would continue to be collected and analyzed. My take away from this is that they are already walking back on this little experiment by removing the signs. Experienced Celebrity cruisers already know the policy and those who are new will not know the difference as long as the signs remain hidden….hence, making word of mouth more difficult. She is also aware of the threads here on CC as well as other social media platforms. Don’t let up on the feedback…it’s working! Edited July 5, 2023 by Georgia_Peaches 28 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelownadon Posted July 5, 2023 #2 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Good work. Keep us posted. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Stem to Stern Posted July 5, 2023 #3 Share Posted July 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: My take away from this is that they are already walking back on this little experiment by removing the signs Not unlike the walking back of the main dining room hamburger entree? Well done Mrs. Peaches. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted July 5, 2023 #4 Share Posted July 5, 2023 @Georgia_Peaches thanks for taking the time from your cruise to speak with M&R director. 13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted July 5, 2023 #5 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: corporate has instructed that the signage be removed in favor of word of mouth instead. 15 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: My take away from this is that they are already walking back on this little experiment by removing the signs. I'm sorry, I know I wasn't in the room with you, but I couldn't disagree more with your take away based on the first comment. Corporate has decided that the signage, not the policy, is the problem. Vaping in the casino is here to stay and IMO is only phase 1. Edited July 5, 2023 by RichYak 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted July 5, 2023 #6 Share Posted July 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: My take away from this is that they are already walking back on this little experiment by removing the signs. Experienced Celebrity cruisers already know the policy and those who are new will not know the difference as long as the signs remain hidden….hence, making word of mouth more difficult. My takeaway is that they are removing the signs and not going to enforce anything. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted July 5, 2023 Author #7 Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, RichYak said: I'm sorry, I know I wasn't in the room with you, but I couldn't disagree more with your take away based on the first comment. Corporate has decided that the signage, not the policy, is the problem. Vaping in the casino is here to stay and IMO is only phase 1. Well you may be right. But my thought was, if the signs aren’t there then nobody knows the difference. I saw no vapers last night. Will look for them again this evening. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted July 5, 2023 #8 Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Well you may be right. But my thought was, if the signs aren’t there then nobody knows the difference. I saw no vapers last night. Will look for them again this evening. If I were a vaper or smoker, the first thing I'd ask when I got on board is, "where can I smoke/vape?" Probably even before finding out what bar was open at that time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Pennstatedj Posted July 5, 2023 #9 Share Posted July 5, 2023 thanks for information. My wife is on the Equinox right now and I join her on Saturday. She saw the signs yesterday and immediately spoke with the CC hostess. Interesting the hostess agreed and said some of the crew was of the same feeling as my wife which is very upset. One of the main reasons we travel on X is because of their non smoking policy. We switched from Princess to X in 96 because of how they corrected problems and because of no smoking policy. I sure hope they listen to us and eliminate this test. I do not mind testing different things as long as they remove the tests when many of us do not like them. Thanks again for your post. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted July 5, 2023 #10 Share Posted July 5, 2023 What will be interesting to see is the first daily on the new cruise after this one… What will the instructions regarding smoking and vaping say on the next cruise’s embarkation day. thanks, Georgia Peaches!!!!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long time lurker Posted July 5, 2023 #11 Share Posted July 5, 2023 I board on the 8th and will be watching. If this trial is still in place they won’t like my post cruise survey answer to “How did we care for your health onboard”. Do they have negative numbers? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted July 5, 2023 #12 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Well done, Georgia Peaches!👏👏👏👏👏👏🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Pennstatedj Posted July 5, 2023 #13 Share Posted July 5, 2023 I will be boarding on July 8 also. If there is a Zenith lunch I will be speaking up. My wife is attending a lunch with CPT and Zeniths tomorrow. She is not shy and will also express her displeasure. Thanks again Peaches. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandman Posted July 5, 2023 #14 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Currently on board as well. We left the casino one night earlier in the week due to vape smoke swirling around us. So glad they might have already reconsidered. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Shiba_Lover Posted July 5, 2023 #15 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Thanks for the update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Honolulu Blue Posted July 5, 2023 #16 Share Posted July 5, 2023 @Georgia_Peaches: Thank you for posting notes from your meeting! I didn't know that there was a Revenue Director on each Celebrity ship, though it certainly does make sense. I know about the Hotel Director and I'm sure there's a comptroller or functional equivalent onboard. It's nice to know there's someone to turn me upside down and shake every last penny out of my pockets. 😁 Anyway, I have no dog in this particular hunt, so I'll just leave it by saying keep up the good work! 👍 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEZMARYLOU Posted July 5, 2023 #17 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Good job and thank you for speaking out for everyone who is opposed. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted July 5, 2023 #18 Share Posted July 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, long time lurker said: I board on the 8th and will be watching. If this trial is still in place they won’t like my post cruise survey answer to “How did we care for your health onboard”. Do they have negative numbers? A big fat zero with a negative follow-up comment. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C 2 C Posted July 5, 2023 #19 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Stem to Stern said: Not unlike the walking back of the main dining room hamburger entree? Well done Mrs. Peaches. And "X the rules" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3boyz2keep Posted July 5, 2023 #20 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Thank you @Georgia_Peaches! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39august Posted July 5, 2023 #21 Share Posted July 5, 2023 My thanks also for taking your time to meet and to post. Were all the signs, including the large ones at the entrance removed, or just the little scattered about signs, please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearthosesteeldrumsplayin Posted July 5, 2023 #22 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Thanks for pursuing this issue. I have been looking forward to my next Celebrity cruise (and particularly the casino!), as there was no smoking on our 1st cruise. This was one of the reasons I am returning to Celebrity. My personal feeling is that vaping and cigarette smoking put the same bad things into the air I breathe. Vaping doesn't smell as noxious, but the harmful stuff is still there! 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dlh015 Posted July 5, 2023 #23 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Georgia_Peaches said: I felt like it was easier to start a separate thread so as not to get lost in the shuffle of the current threads on the subject of the new vaping policy. The Marketing & Revenue director took time to sit down with me and hear my concerns about the new policy. She was extremely engaging and took notes to pass along to corporate. While she maintained that this is only a test and no final decision has been made, she admitted that A LOT of feedback has been received and based on this, corporate has instructed that the signage be removed in favor of word of mouth instead. I raised several concerns including: 1. Enforcement of the “while actively playing” rule and mentioned the vapers who were vaping while watching the slot tournament. 2. The awkward position it puts the crew in who have to enforce the policy. 3. The health concerns for everyone. 4. The changing of the Celebrity brand and what attracted me to Celebrity in the first place 5. What changes will this open the door to if this is implemented permanently? Our conversation concluded with assurances that the feedback was valuable and would continue to be collected and analyzed. My take away from this is that they are already walking back on this little experiment by removing the signs. Experienced Celebrity cruisers already know the policy and those who are new will not know the difference as long as the signs remain hidden….hence, making word of mouth more difficult. She is also aware of the threads here on CC as well as other social media platforms. Don’t let up on the feedback…it’s working! My hero!!! Thank you!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted July 5, 2023 #24 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Hearthosesteeldrumsplayin said: Thanks for pursuing this issue. I have been looking forward to my next Celebrity cruise (and particularly the casino!), as there was no smoking on our 1st cruise. This was one of the reasons I am returning to Celebrity. My personal feeling is that vaping and cigarette smoking put the same bad things into the air I breathe. Vaping doesn't smell as noxious, but the harmful stuff is still there! Now that you've told us, have you told Celebrity? lhodges@rccl.com executiveoffice@celebrity.com 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted July 5, 2023 #25 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Thanks for the update and taking the time to give your feedback to those on the ship. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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