Rare Honolulu Blue Posted July 13, 2023 #1 Share Posted July 13, 2023 As I was doing some research on a random Royal Caribbean ship, I spotted this gem. I ask you to pay special attention to the last three words: I'll file this in the Learn Something New Every Day department. I must say that in my various cruises (including a couple of charters on RCCL) that I've never paid for a lecture or seen an offer for a paid lecture onboard. So I'll ask the peanut gallery - have you paid for a guest lecture on a cruise ship? Are there any reasonable circumstances in which you would pay for a lecture on a cruise ship? Details please! Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrate13 Posted July 13, 2023 #2 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Never have, never will. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted July 13, 2023 #3 Share Posted July 13, 2023 No and No. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted July 13, 2023 #4 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) Interesting... I've cruised on a couple of lines that feature enrichment speakers as part of their overall programming (e.g., the topics are related to the itinerary). On those lines there was no charge, but I suspect the cost was embedded in the overall fare. I was certainly willing to pay a premium for these cruises because it was exactly what I was looking for and the expert lecturers did more than just present lectures -- they also went along on shore excursions to add extra commentary, ate with passengers, held Q&A sessions, etc. If a line were to charge for a lecturer, it would have to be one that I knew was a) a true expert in their field, and b) knew how to give an interesting AND entertaining lecture. By entertaining, I mean doing more than just showing some PowerPoing slides and reading the text directly off them. I could perhaps see paying a (small) fee to hear a best-selling author talk about their recent work, especially if it might include a copy of their book (with a chance to get it autographed), or something like that. Or if it was a well-known expert in a particular area such as a Neil deGrasse Tyson -- but only if it was a field that interests me. I might also pay a small fee to hear a travel expert (e.g., Rick Steves) or destination expert (e.g., Frances Mayes). Overall, I'm not sure how much of a market there is for this. I can't imagine much uptake on a weekly Caribbean cruise, for example.... On an ocean crossing, it seems ships should provide speakers at no cost as part of their efforts to entertain guests on multiple days at sea. Edited July 13, 2023 by cruisemom42 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Honolulu Blue Posted July 13, 2023 Author #5 Share Posted July 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, cruisemom42 said: Interesting... I've cruised on a couple of lines that feature enrichment speakers as part of their overall programming (e.g., the topics are related to the itinerary). On those lines there was no charge, but I suspect the cost was embedded in the overall fare. I was certainly willing to pay a premium for these cruises because it was exactly what I was looking for and the expert lecturers did more than just present lectures -- they also went along on shore excursions to add extra commentary, ate with passengers, held Q&A sessions, etc. If a line were to charge for a lecturer, it would have to be one that I knew was a) a true expert in their field, and b) knew how to give an interesting AND entertaining lecture. By entertaining, I mean doing more than just showing some PowerPoing slides and reading the text directly off them. I could perhaps see paying a (small) fee to hear a best-selling author talk about their recent work, especially if it might include a copy of their book (with a chance to get it autographed), or something like that. Or if it was a well-known expert in a particular area such as a Neil deGrasse Tyson -- but only if it was a field that interests me. I might also pay a small fee to hear a travel expert (e.g., Rick Steves) or destination expert (e.g., Frances Mayes). Overall, I'm not sure how much of a market there is for this. I can't imagine much uptake on a weekly Caribbean cruise, for example.... On an ocean crossing, it seems ships should provide speakers at no cost as part of their efforts to entertain guests on multiple days at sea. This is just the sort of discussion I hoped this thread would provide. Thanks for sharing. Well stated. I generally agree, though my interests are different than yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markanddonna Posted July 13, 2023 #6 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Considering the cutbacks, perhaps this is a new effort to provide a lecturer without giving them a free cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted July 13, 2023 #7 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I've cruised RCI 4x in the past couple years and there were no fees with any of the lectures I attended. Notice that disclaimer says fee may apply. I suspect if there is a fee, it's for something spa or excursion related. Typical lectures do not have a fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrate13 Posted July 13, 2023 #8 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Understand cruisemom's thinking and as much as I enjoy Neil deGrasse Tyson or Rick Steves I still would not pay for a lecture/seminar by either one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XBGuy Posted July 13, 2023 #9 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Like many of the previous posters I have never encountered or even heard of this kind of activity. I would not automatically dismiss it, but I would make that decision at "game time." I honestly do not know what topic might interest me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 13, 2023 #10 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Of course it looks like just one more example of “shrinkflation” - the continuous tacking on of fees for previously included amenities, the reduction in quality of included meals, the lessening common space per passenger. I would not be surprised to hear of charging fees for taking a tender. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted July 13, 2023 #11 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I think if a fee were charged it would be for a talk that was more a workshop where there was hands on participation. Maybe a famous chef cooking class…. EM 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofarfromthesea Posted July 14, 2023 #12 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I wouldn't attend or pay for something like that on land so I don't think I would at sea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted July 14, 2023 #13 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Essiesmom said: I think if a fee were charged it would be for a talk that was more a workshop where there was hands on participation. Maybe a famous chef cooking class…. EM I think you may have hit on somethign. Could be activities involving supplies like a craft session or maybe wine tasting. Edited July 14, 2023 by ldubs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted July 14, 2023 #14 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I would pay someone to hear a lecture about tanzanite! 😀 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ceeceeDee Posted July 14, 2023 #15 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On our last cruise (domestic, Australia) hubby attended a Scotch tasting seminar (which he obviously enjoyed! 😉). We've come across the barman on previous cruises and he is extremely knowledgeable. The cost was $20 and hubby estimated he had about $60 worth of Scotch so it was something of a bargain and kept hubby out of my hair for a good hour!😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPacificbound Posted July 14, 2023 #16 Share Posted July 14, 2023 No and no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted July 14, 2023 #17 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Here, let me fix that for you: 3 hours ago, ldubs said: I would pay someone NOT to hear a lecture about tanzanite! 😀 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanger727 Posted July 14, 2023 #18 Share Posted July 14, 2023 11 hours ago, ldubs said: I think you may have hit on somethign. Could be activities involving supplies like a craft session or maybe wine tasting. When we cruised from Hawaii to Vancouver on Celebrity there were several "classes" that took multiple days. So for example, a Hula class that met several days in a row to learn a longer hula dance. One of the classes that a friend of mine did was a watercolor painting class. Same thing, met every day at a certain time to continue working on their painting. I am pretty positive that was free. But I could see them charging for something like that in the future. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride-The-Waves Posted July 17, 2023 #19 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just another effort by Royal to nickel and dime passengers. Soon they will be charging for water to drink and every flush. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 18, 2023 #20 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 12:46 AM, cruisemom42 said: Here, let me fix that for you: Sometimes a volunteer editor is desperately needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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