tfred Posted August 21, 2023 #76 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I think X has determined where the more profitable and easier to showcase their perceived value is and isn't. South America has lost out to the increase in expensive expedition ships going down there. 7 day Caribbean is a hot market and they are pushing the ships into that. Many people only have time for a 7 day trip. 1/3 of pax never get off the ship so port selection as a cruise determinator is low. Many vacationers only take one vacation a year, so the idea of catering to the taking a cruise every other month crowd is not a solid strategy for growth. It makes sense that they would use PC as a port if DCL and RCL can fill those ships - especially RCL with that behemoth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah1212 Posted August 21, 2023 #77 Share Posted August 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said: The success of DCL Wish and RCI Wonder OTS has gotten other cruise lines attention. And then the various theme parks play into this too. It's not just two ships. In 2022 Port Canaveral was the busiest passenger port in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Oceansaway17 Posted August 21, 2023 #78 Share Posted August 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jeremiah1212 said: It's not just two ships. In 2022 Port Canaveral was the busiest passenger port in the world. I know that !!! Just pointed out the two ships with most success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted August 21, 2023 #79 Share Posted August 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Jeremiah1212 said: It's not just two ships. In 2022 Port Canaveral was the busiest passenger port in the world. 7 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said: I know that !!! Just pointed out the two ships with most success It should be noted that the FL ports are still down 15-20% from 2019, the last full before the pandemic. It wouldn’t be surprising if Miami regains the top spot in the near future as it has more terminals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted August 21, 2023 #80 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) Re the "demographic" comment....LOL....I'm a Celebrity normal cruiser...they will probably get an extra cruise out of me a year with this move. Late 50's..grown kids not at home demographic for me and the Bride. Edited August 21, 2023 by PTC DAWG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted August 21, 2023 #81 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, NutsAboutGolf said: It should be noted that the FL ports are still down 15-20% from 2019, the last full before the pandemic. It wouldn’t be surprising if Miami regains the top spot in the near future as it has more terminals The 3 larger FL ports are fairly close in numbers. 2022-2023 numbers per Wiki. 2 Port Canaveral 4,072,396 United States 3 Port of Miami 4,022,544 United States 4 Port Everglades 3,826,415 United States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise wizard Posted August 21, 2023 #82 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, NutsAboutGolf said: It should be noted that the FL ports are still down 15-20% from 2019, the last full before the pandemic. It wouldn’t be surprising if Miami regains the top spot in the near future as it has more terminals The hotels in the Cocoa Beach area seem to be full and OMG the prices too. Cruise packages sell pretty fast. I am finding it less costly to use a shuttle service round trip from the Treasure Coast then booking a cruise package at the near port hotels. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted August 21, 2023 #83 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, PTC DAWG said: The 3 larger FL ports are fairly close in numbers. 2022-2023 numbers per Wiki. 2 Port Canaveral 4,072,396 United States 3 Port of Miami 4,022,544 United States 4 Port Everglades 3,826,415 United States Miami had 5.1M in 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieps Posted August 21, 2023 #84 Share Posted August 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, PTC DAWG said: The 3 larger FL ports are fairly close in numbers. 2022-2023 numbers per Wiki. 2 Port Canaveral 4,072,396 United States 3 Port of Miami 4,022,544 United States 4 Port Everglades 3,826,415 United States PTC to PC is what, 6 Hours? Easy Peasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted August 21, 2023 #85 Share Posted August 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, marieps said: PTC to PC is what, 6 Hours? Easy Peasy. Maybe a tad more… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceangoer2 Posted August 21, 2023 #86 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 1:07 PM, molly361 said: Stolen from the Celebrity board Bermuda & Portugal Tranatlantic 12 Portugal: Lisbon; Portugal: Porto (Leixoes); At Sea; Azores: Ponta Delgada; At Sea; At Sea; At Sea; At Sea; Bermuda: Royal Naval Dockyard; At Sea; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2024 Nov 21 Bahamas Getaway 4 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); Bahamas: Bimini; At Sea; Bahamas: Nassau; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2024 Dec 3 Belize, Honduras & Mexico 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; Mexico: Costa Maya; Belize: Belize City; Honduras: Roatan; Mexico: Cozumel; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2024 Dec 14 Eastern Caribbean Holiday 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; Dominican Rep: Puerto Plata; Puerto Rico: San Juan; St. Kitts & Nevis: Basseterre; At Sea; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2024 Dec 21 St. Maarten, San Juan & Labadee Holiday 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; At Sea; St. Maarten: Philipsburg; Puerto Rico: San Juan; Haiti: Labadee; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2024 Dec 28 Puerto Plata, San Juan & St. Kitts 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; Dominican Rep: Puerto Plata; Puerto Rico: San Juan; St. Kitts & Nevis: Basseterre; At Sea; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Jan 4 Feb 15 Key West, Puerto Plata & Labadee 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); Florida: Key West; At Sea; At Sea; Dominican Rep: Puerto Plata; Haiti: Labadee; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Jan 11, 25 Puerto Plata, San Juan & St. Maarten 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; Dominican Rep: Puerto Plata; Puerto Rico: San Juan; St. Maarten: Philipsburg; At Sea; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Jan 18 Mar 29 Grand Cayman, Jamaica & Labadee 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; Grand Cayman: George Town; Jamaica: Falmouth; Haiti: Labadee; At Sea; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Feb 22 Key West, Jamaica & Grand Cayman 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); Florida: Key West; At Sea; Jamaica: Falmouth; Grand Cayman: George Town; At Sea; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Mar 8 Bahamas, Labadee & Puerto Plata 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); Bahamas: Nassau; At Sea; At Sea; Haiti: Labadee; Dominican Rep: Puerto Plata; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Mar 22 Puerto Plata, Labadee & Bahamas 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; Haiti: Labadee; At Sea; Dominican Rep: Puerto Plata; At Sea; Bahamas: Bimini; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Apr 5 Bimini, Belize & Mexico 7 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; Bahamas: Bimini; At Sea; Belize: Belize City; Mexico: Cozumel; At Sea; Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral) 2025 Apr 12 Bermuda & Portugal Transatlantic 15 Florida: Orlando (Port Canaveral); At Sea; At Sea; Bermuda: Royal Naval Dockyard; At Sea; At Sea; At Sea; At Sea; At Sea; Portugal: Madeira (Funchal); At Sea; Portugal: Lisbon; At Sea; Spain: Cartagena; Spain: Palma De Mallorca; Spain: Barcelona Molly....PL...eeze steal from the X board re the new Apex sailing dates to be released tomorrow! That's if you can, I'd appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted August 21, 2023 #87 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, cruise wizard said: The hotels in the Cocoa Beach area seem to be full and OMG the prices too. Cruise packages sell pretty fast. I am finding it less costly to use a shuttle service round trip from the Treasure Coast then booking a cruise package at the near port hotels. It's really too bad the port isn't connected by the BrightLine high speed train 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NutsAboutGolf Posted August 21, 2023 #88 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Now I found this for context, the record was 6.8M...Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Oceansaway17 Posted August 22, 2023 #89 Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 hours ago, NutsAboutGolf said: It should be noted that the FL ports are still down 15-20% from 2019, the last full before the pandemic. It wouldn’t be surprising if Miami regains the top spot in the near future as it has more terminals Agree and airport is close by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted August 22, 2023 #90 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I saw that the 1/4/25 sailing is available to book... just the one date. Not thinking that $12k for a Celebrity Suite does it for me... nor does $14k for refundable... 😞 Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise wizard Posted August 22, 2023 #91 Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: I saw that the 1/4/25 sailing is available to book... just the one date. Not thinking that $12k for a Celebrity Suite does it for me... nor does $14k for refundable... 😞 Tom Is the ship "sold out" yet????? Perhaps these are "fishing" rates.........see who will bite and then adjust??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted August 22, 2023 #92 Share Posted August 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, cruise wizard said: Is the ship "sold out" yet????? Perhaps these are "fishing" rates.........see who will bite and then adjust??? Plenty of other choices up there now - I feel the Retreat prices are not reasonable, I wish them luck selling those cabins, as the perks get clipped. Other cabins, not a bad deal. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted August 22, 2023 #93 Share Posted August 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Plenty of other choices up there now - I feel the Retreat prices are not reasonable, I wish them luck selling those cabins, as the perks get clipped. Other cabins, not a bad deal. Tom Doesn’t seem to matter the ship, sail date or location. Retreat prices are $1,000+ a day for 2. mac_tlc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise wizard Posted August 22, 2023 #94 Share Posted August 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, mac_tlc said: Doesn’t seem to matter the ship, sail date or location. Retreat prices are $1,000+ a day for 2. mac_tlc I thought that maybe there would be some "Welcome to Port Canaveral" sale pricing..............I guess that I am just naïve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted August 22, 2023 #95 Share Posted August 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, cruise wizard said: I thought that maybe there would be some "Welcome to Port Canaveral" sale pricing..............I guess that I am just naïve. For the locals, it’s more like “Welcome to Port Canaveral. We know you don’t have to drive down to PE now, so you can pay it to us for the convenience “ mac_tlc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miched Posted August 22, 2023 #96 Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) Don’t think I will be booking anymore cruises until I have completed the 2 that I have at the end of the year. Port Canaveral will cut 1 day off of our driving time but the prices kind of wipe out any savings on one less night in a hotel but is would be nice nothing having to fight the traffic down I 95 going to the other ports I don’t want to purchase a pig in the poke. I need to see how the overall sailing experience is with all of the changes being made. Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅 Edited August 22, 2023 by miched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise wizard Posted August 22, 2023 #97 Share Posted August 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, miched said: Don’t think I will be booking anymore cruises until I have completed the 2 that I have at the end of the year. Port Canaveral will cut 1 day off of our driving time but the prices kind of wipe out any savings on one less night in a hotel. I don’t want to purchase a pig in the poke. I need to see how the overall sailing experience is with all of the changes being made. Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅 Good plan!!!! Typically we book when the first new itineraries are published to get the cabin category and location of choice. I need a lot of shade because of skin cancer damage - so I either get the location of need or I simply don't book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted August 22, 2023 #98 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Plenty of other choices up there now - I feel the Retreat prices are not reasonable, I wish them luck selling those cabins, as the perks get clipped. Other cabins, not a bad deal. Tom Yeah, Aqua on Celebrity is our sweet spot right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted August 22, 2023 #99 Share Posted August 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, miched said: Don’t think I will be booking anymore cruises until I have completed the 2 that I have at the end of the year. Port Canaveral will cut 1 day off of our driving time but the prices kind of wipe out any savings on one less night in a hotel but is would be nice nothing having to fight the traffic down I 95 going to the other ports I don’t want to purchase a pig in the poke. I need to see how the overall sailing experience is with all of the changes being made. Happy cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅 I-95 between Jax and I-4 can be a challenge for many. 3 lanes pretty much running Nascar style the entire way. Sort of like I-75 in Georgia between, well pretty much anywhere in Georgia. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted August 22, 2023 #100 Share Posted August 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, PTC DAWG said: Yeah, Aqua on Celebrity is our sweet spot right now. I was looking at that as well, at least you get Blu ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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