AdoraBelle Posted November 26, 2016 #151 Share Posted November 26, 2016 (edited) My first cruise was on DCL and when I found out this was a common thing, I was aghast. What kind of disconnect is happening in this industry that they don't recognize that placing the *paying customer* in such an awkward position is just bad business? Do your own employee evaluations, don't make it my problem. I'd almost say they're trying to push people out of the MDRs and into the buffet or upcharge venues, but Disney does it and they're kind of known for their MDRs. Their upcharge venues are all 18+ (for now). Edited November 26, 2016 by AdoraBelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesboat Posted November 30, 2016 #152 Share Posted November 30, 2016 What good would a survey be if ALL reviews came in as a perfect 5 score. Therewould be nothing to compare good or bad to, and no incentive to change...and no real appreciation of a compliment where it is due. As far as I know on a scale of 1-5.....there are five choices. ;) You are incorrect and you should read the entire thread. There are two choices. 1-4 is fail, 5 is pass. Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apocalyps3 Posted November 30, 2016 #153 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The only problem is modern tech support is get the customer to do everything themselves (test on another computer, test with another connection, test with another cable) then when the customer has done all the work, maximise disruption by we'll reset your profile, reimage your machine, give you a new machine...) It's not about fixing but just resetting. That isn't "modern tech support", that's good detective work. IT asks you to test all that stuff to try to narrow down what the actual problem is. And they can't always take the customer's word for things (you may be savvy, but most people are not and there's no way to tell who is who). Contrary to popular belief IT support isn't black and white. Not every problem has a well laid out solution and you have to do some detective work to figure it out. As for the resetting... You're right. During my sysadmin days our help desk would call about issues and if we couldn't help them within 5 minutes their solution was always to just reimage. Part of that is due to time restrictions. Not enough techs supporting too many people. They don't always have time to spend an hour or two figuring out an issue when they can just reimage and have it "fixed" in 20 minutes or less. A lot of it is laziness too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 30, 2016 #154 Share Posted November 30, 2016 You are incorrect and you should read the entire thread. There are two choices. 1-4 is fail, 5 is pass. Thats it. You know, we aren't really sure that is even accurate. Has anyone weighed in with information from management on this? One of the points of this thread is the ridiculousness of a 5 or 10 point scale that only considers the top score as acceptable. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted November 30, 2016 #155 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Wow how obnoxious.. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsinsyder Posted November 30, 2016 #156 Share Posted November 30, 2016 What bothered me about the surveying was that our MDR waiter told us that she gets 'credit' for the Windjammer, etc., portions of the survey as well, even though I never saw her there. We thought WJ was terrible on our last cruise, and although I liked her, I had to be honest about the other areas. As someone said, constant 5 star ratings that aren't deserved won't make for better cruising experiences in the future. I've read a lot of posts about declining food quality - RCCL should, at the very least, see this reflected in their surveying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Oakville Posted November 30, 2016 #157 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I have strong feelings on this subject as I agree with the OP. I just completed the survey with 5 * for service (even though I felt it was not deserving of this rating). I rated the food honestly as the waitstaff (IMHO) should not be penalized for food quality. I left detailed comments in the box. Having just sailed Oasis, I found there was a much "softer" sell on the customer satisfaction survey than I have found in previous years. I find celebrity manages the survey the best. If I were Royal, I'd want honest feedback on the product I'm selling. I would not want my staff trying to coerce my customers into giving good reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 30, 2016 #158 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I have strong feelings on this subject as I agree with the OP. I just completed the survey with 5 * for service (even though I felt it was not deserving of this rating). I rated the food honestly as the waitstaff (IMHO) should not be penalized for food quality. I left detailed comments in the box. Having just sailed Oasis, I found there was a much "softer" sell on the customer satisfaction survey than I have found in previous years. I find celebrity manages the survey the best. If I were Royal, I'd want honest feedback on the product I'm selling. I would not want my staff trying to coerce my customers into giving good reviews. OK, I'm confused. :confused: I just did the survey for Jewel, and it was a scale from 1-10, no 5 point scale. I gave 8-10 for the most part. The dining section was as follows: Quality of food in the MDR MDR service Quality of food in the WJ Service at WJ Bar Service Chop's Grille Giovani's Table Izumi All were 1-10 and there were no boxes to leave comments. The only box to leave a comment was the last one. Please take this opportunity to provide final comments or recognize outstanding crew members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Oakville Posted November 30, 2016 #159 Share Posted November 30, 2016 OK, I'm confused. :confused: I just did the survey for Jewel, and it was a scale from 1-10, no 5 point scale. I gave 8-10 for the most part. The dining section was as follows: Quality of food in the MDR MDR service Quality of food in the WJ Service at WJ Bar Service Chop's Grille Giovani's Table Izumi All were 1-10 and there were no boxes to leave comments. The only box to leave a comment was the last one. Please take this opportunity to provide final comments or recognize outstanding crew members. You might be right, I think it was a 1-10 scale. lol. I just did the survey last week. I had comment boxes at almost every stage of the review. I also recall a section on the cabin attendant. In the case of dining room service, I gave a 10 not a 5 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 30, 2016 #160 Share Posted November 30, 2016 You might be right, I think it was a 1-10 scale. lol. I just did the survey last week. I had comment boxes at almost every stage of the review. I also recall a section on the cabin attendant. In the case of dining room service, I gave a 10 not a 5 :D There was a section on the cabin steward, but no box to leave comments. The only time I have seen boxes pop up is when I leave a low score, say below 5 on the 10 scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted November 30, 2016 #161 Share Posted November 30, 2016 You are incorrect and you should read the entire thread. There are two choices. 1-4 is fail, 5 is pass. Thats it. My post was meant as a joke....but thanks for clearing that up for me of course. :rolleyes: ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted November 30, 2016 #162 Share Posted November 30, 2016 My post was meant as a joke....but thanks for clearing that upfor me of course. :rolleyes: ;) Pat, I thought your quote was insightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted November 30, 2016 #163 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Pat, I thought your quote was insightful. Thanks...I just had to pull out one foot to count toes from one to five!! I thought I was pretty good at it also! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1957 Posted November 30, 2016 #164 Share Posted November 30, 2016 We have gotten "the speech" on our last two cruises. I nipped it in the bud on our last cruise. When the MDR Staff started I held up my hand to stop them and said "I will give you a fair rating based on your performance and the expectations set by the cruise line. If you ask me even once for any particular score I will give you 1's straight across the board." She spun around and left...never heard another word about the survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Oakville Posted November 30, 2016 #165 Share Posted November 30, 2016 There was a section on the cabin steward, but no box to leave comments. The only time I have seen boxes pop up is when I leave a low score, say below 5 on the 10 scale. I wonder if they have different surveys for different lines/guests? I definitely didn't rate anything below a 5, and I had several options for leaving comments. I know I received surveys for each of my car rentals through hertz. Orlando-Canaveral, was a long survey with many questions. Canaveral to Orlando, was 1 question only asking how satisfied I was. And I had plenty to say about the return car rental, but I guess they didn't want my opinion on that :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramja96 Posted November 30, 2016 #166 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Whenever they start to give that spiel, I tell them they are "number 1" in my book and hold up one finger. They normally quit at that point. The question here, is "Which finger?" :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villager70 Posted November 30, 2016 #167 Share Posted November 30, 2016 early this year I started taking a phone picture of the NAMETAG of the waitstaff telling them I wanted to include their names on the survey. The last two cruises Sept and Oct the head waiter stopped by and said he heard about the photo of the tags and wondered if I needed his. Three photos on my phone, the three couldn't do enough for us after that. no speeches. Bob & nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted November 30, 2016 #168 Share Posted November 30, 2016 The question here, is "Which finger?" :eek: You're making me embarassed all over again: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=51614033&highlight=finger#post51614033 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryjaden Posted November 30, 2016 #169 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just off the Adventure of the Seas. The survey we received went from 1 - 10. We received the survey spiel the first night. We also interrupted them with the "right now you are at a 10 (and they were) if our service is this good all week, we will give the 10". We had exceptional service all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramja96 Posted November 30, 2016 #170 Share Posted November 30, 2016 You're making me embarassed all over again: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=51614033&highlight=finger#post51614033 Hmm, seems to be a recurring theme with you ... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted November 30, 2016 #171 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I wonder if they have different surveys for different lines/guests? I definitely didn't rate anything below a 5, and I had several options for leaving comments. I know I received surveys for each of my car rentals through hertz. Orlando-Canaveral, was a long survey with many questions. Canaveral to Orlando, was 1 question only asking how satisfied I was. And I had plenty to say about the return car rental, but I guess they didn't want my opinion on that :D My DH and I each filled out our survey at the same time, on different laptops, and his comment boxes were different than mine. We had given the same value to the questions asked to that point, but were asked to comment on different areas of our cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethc1952 Posted November 30, 2016 #172 Share Posted November 30, 2016 WOW, freakin unreal!!! Sent from my iPhone using Forums I have nothing to add here, but I love your screen name :D! Hope you enjoyed your cruise! Beth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north29 Posted November 30, 2016 #173 Share Posted November 30, 2016 and I hate the 5* spiel There is no room to totally express your opinion it is either good or bad according, evidently to RC. Service can vary for a variety of reasons from Rude and overly demanding cruisers to a Head waiter that knows ******* with a waiter who just cannot make it. I do agree they all seem to be over worked, well at times. Food is not the servers fault whether it is good or BAD. Food can vary from quality of raw/frozen food supplies to new chefs, who may have come from Carnival or NCL LOL need a little humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted November 30, 2016 #174 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So has anyone ever heard back from the Cruise line that you filled out the Post Cruise Survey for? We never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CruisinShips Posted November 30, 2016 #175 Share Posted November 30, 2016 We have gotten "the speech" on our last two cruises. I nipped it in the bud on our last cruise. When the MDR Staff started I held up my hand to stop them and said "I will give you a fair rating based on your performance and the expectations set by the cruise line. If you ask me even once for any particular score I will give you 1's straight across the board." She spun around and left...never heard another word about the survey. Mom? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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