travelingirl70 Posted March 16, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Well folks, this just in. An unfortunate brawl broke out in the Haven Lounge shortly after departing Cozumel today. Broken glass and grown men on the floor. Kudos to the crew who responded with dozens of officers and security including the ship’s doctor to attend to the injured. It’s a shame but I can’t imagine it’s the first time this has happened. It will be interesting if the passengers run into each other in the close quarters of the Haven with a day at sea. Beverage packages have been shut off. I’m still gathering details but I heard it involved a child sitting at the bar, a drunk passenger striking up a conversation and a mother who told the guy to stop talking to her kid and may or may not have called him a fat drunk. At this point, the kid’s dad got involved and got in the face of the drunk guy. Not sure who threw the first punch but at least one other passenger tries to break it up. We walked in shortly after and that intervening passenger had blood all over his shirt. The crew put in hazmat suits and worked to sanitize every surface. A lot of drama. A first for me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted March 16, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, travelingirl70 said: Beverage packages have been shut off. For everyone or just for those involved? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianmike Posted March 16, 2019 #3 Share Posted March 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, travelingirl70 said: Well folks, this just in. An unfortunate brawl broke out in the Haven Lounge shortly after departing Cozumel today. Broken glass and grown men on the floor. Kudos to the crew who responded with dozens of officers and security including the ship’s doctor to attend to the injured. It’s a shame but I can’t imagine it’s the first time this has happened. It will be interesting if the passengers run into each other in the close quarters of the Haven with a day at sea. Beverage packages have been shut off. I’m still gathering details but I heard it involved a child sitting at the bar, a drunk passenger striking up a conversation and a mother who told the guy to stop talking to her kid and may or may not have called him a fat drunk. At this point, the kid’s dad got involved and got in the face of the drunk guy. Not sure who threw the first punch but at least one other passenger tries to break it up. We walked in shortly after and that intervening passenger had blood all over his shirt. The crew put in hazmat suits and worked to sanitize every surface. A lot of drama. A first for me. Hopefully one or both combatants are in the brig and no longer a hazard to the passengers and crew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam_s_allen Posted March 16, 2019 #4 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Oh boy imagine the riots if the beverage package was shut off to everyone. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelingirl70 Posted March 16, 2019 Author #5 Share Posted March 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said: For everyone or just for those involved? Just those involved!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdoraBelle Posted March 16, 2019 #6 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Keep it classy, Haven! 😉 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelingirl70 Posted March 16, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, AdoraBelle said: Keep it classy, Haven! 😉 Just goes to show you can’t buy class 21 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkBHM Posted March 16, 2019 #8 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, travelingirl70 said: Just goes to show you can’t buy class I wonder if they bought Haven tickets outright or were "upgraded." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomservo Posted March 16, 2019 #9 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just out of curiosity, what time of day was it? Or this literally just happened a little while ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tapi Posted March 16, 2019 #10 Share Posted March 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, travelingirl70 said: A first for me. Awww. You never forget your first one.😉 I know that I can’t forget the first brawl at sea I ever witnessed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted March 16, 2019 #11 Share Posted March 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said: For everyone or just for those involved? Good grief, obviously not for everyone... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelingirl70 Posted March 16, 2019 Author #12 Share Posted March 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, tomservo said: Just out of curiosity, what time of day was it? Or this literally just happened a little while ago? Around 6pm. We departed Cozumel at 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianmike Posted March 16, 2019 #13 Share Posted March 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, travelingirl70 said: Just those involved!!! So both combatants are free to cause problems again? Punishment is no UBP for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelingirl70 Posted March 16, 2019 Author #14 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, mianmike said: So both combatants are free to cause problems again? Punishment is no UBP for you! From what I can tell, yes. We heard one of the ship’s officers say if they cause any more issues they will be removed from their cabin. They are watching them like a hawk. They’re being tailed by crew from what I can see. They’re not exactly getting to enjoy their “freestyle” cruise any longer. I’m not sure what the appropriate recourse is here but I’m pretty impressed with the crew so far. Everyone knows what happened and there are a lot of uncomfortable stares. And the Haven lounge is a lot quieter tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted March 16, 2019 #15 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, travelingirl70 said: Well folks, this just in. An unfortunate brawl broke out in the Haven Lounge shortly after departing Cozumel today. Broken glass and grown men on the floor. Kudos to the crew who responded with dozens of officers and security including the ship’s doctor to attend to the injured. It’s a shame but I can’t imagine it’s the first time this has happened. It will be interesting if the passengers run into each other in the close quarters of the Haven with a day at sea. Beverage packages have been shut off. I’m still gathering details but I heard it involved a child sitting at the bar, a drunk passenger striking up a conversation and a mother who told the guy to stop talking to her kid and may or may not have called him a fat drunk. At this point, the kid’s dad got involved and got in the face of the drunk guy. Not sure who threw the first punch but at least one other passenger tries to break it up. We walked in shortly after and that intervening passenger had blood all over his shirt. The crew put in hazmat suits and worked to sanitize every surface. A lot of drama. A first for me. Gosh, hate the child was exposed to this .... especially the way the parents reacted. How much better it would have been if the mother had just gone elsewhere with the child. 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexandNessa Posted March 16, 2019 #16 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Not that I condone any of this, but children do not belong sitting at the bar, period. Huge pet peeve. 44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted March 16, 2019 #17 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, PTC DAWG said: Good grief, obviously not for everyone... Yup. I think everyone understands (especially with the big grinning emoji) that this was an attempt at humor and not a serious statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis1209 Posted March 16, 2019 #18 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, AlexandNessa said: Not that I condone any of this, but children do not belong sitting at the bar, period. Huge pet peeve. I agree! In my 37 years as a police officer I have found the best course of action involving a fight is the winner goes to jail and the loser goes to the hospital and then to jail! Elvis 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW Pacific Posted March 16, 2019 #19 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Horrible experience , but totally agree, children sitting at a bar should not be allowed!!! My pet peeve also! 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmpets Posted March 16, 2019 #20 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 hours ago, AlexandNessa said: Not that I condone any of this, but children do not belong sitting at the bar, period. Huge pet peeve. 3 hours ago, NW Pacific said: Horrible experience , but totally agree, children sitting at a bar should not be allowed!!! My pet peeve also! Normally I would totally agree with this too, but since there are no soda dispensers, kids are kind of forced to go to the bar for beverages. It would make sense that some would stay there, especially if they are with their parents. On land, though, 100% agree that kids have no place at a bar! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted March 16, 2019 #21 Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, calmpets said: Normally I would totally agree with this too, but since there are no soda dispensers, kids are kind of forced to go to the bar for beverages. It would make sense that some would stay there, especially if they are with their parents. On land, though, 100% agree that kids have no place at a bar! Or the casino!!!!!!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Captain-John Posted March 16, 2019 #22 Share Posted March 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Elvis1209 said: I agree! In my 37 years as a police officer I have found the best course of action involving a fight is the winner goes to jail and the loser goes to the hospital and then to jail! Elvis Respectfully - should it not be the one that throws the first punch that goes to jail? Sure you can have verbal conflict (which may or may not be an offense), but I had always assumed the first person to escalate it with a physical reaction is the aggressor and anything the other person does in retaliation is self defense? I've had a few stern words with people in the past but if they threw me a punch and I reacted, I'd hate to think I'd go to jail for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted March 16, 2019 #23 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Very sad. IMHO its a commentary on where society is going. Its becoming more and more frequent. Brawls at malls are nothing new. Fights at schools have increased. Airports see this kind of behavior all the time especially on the planes. Now its happening on cruise ships. Alcohol no doubt plays a major part. But IMHO its the sense of entitlement society has today. Rules for who, me? People now even think they can bully the police with their phone cameras. Its all moving to a very scary direction. If I was the captain these people would have been off the ship. Call me harsh but I have zero tolerance for this kind of nonsense. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted March 16, 2019 #24 Share Posted March 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, david_sobe said: Rules for who, me? People now even think they can bully the police with their phone cameras There are plenty of examples of BOTH groups (citizens and police) believing that the rules/laws don't apply to them. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_sobe Posted March 16, 2019 #25 Share Posted March 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said: There are plenty of examples of BOTH groups (citizens and police) believing that the rules/laws don't apply to them. I don't understand this? I think you are painting with way too broad of a brush. Never stated anything which you allege. Why are you bringing police misconduct into this? I was not dividing groups but giving examples of brawls even when the police show up. You love to comment on other's comments but you are spinning my comments into something I never said. Its ridiculous that I even have to reply to this. My comments on society include EVERYONE. I just wish you would read comments before you reply to them so fast. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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