Crouton215 Posted March 21, 2019 #26 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Traveler1010, I just looked at our cruise planner for Anthem (3/23), and Coco Cay is still listed. If it isn't going to happen, I would think they would have sent out the Miami email everyone else received for this weeks sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler1010 Posted March 21, 2019 #27 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thx!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaritimeR&R Posted March 22, 2019 #28 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I know there is supposed to be transportation within the "park" in the form of a tram/s that run every 15 minutes, but that is one long walk for a toddler or an elderly person from where the ship is berthed to the entrance of the park, especially carrying anything with them. I hope there will be some kind of transportation besides being in a wheel chair for those people who can not walk the distance from the ship to where the tram/s will be provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy_Tbird Posted March 22, 2019 #29 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 5:14 PM, A2Mich said: Is Coco Cay going to have its own WiFi? Didn’t think they were close enough to another larger island for service from another location. Why wouldn't they use regular satellite internet? The island doesn't move around so the signal would be constant and fast. No need to beam or cable it from a land-based source. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted March 22, 2019 #30 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The Thrill Waterpark area seems to be coming along...wonder how the wave pool area is progressing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 22, 2019 #31 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Katy_Tbird said: Why wouldn't they use regular satellite internet? The island doesn't move around so the signal would be constant and fast. No need to beam or cable it from a land-based source. Because the latency would suck (and lead to poor real world performance for most), just like on the ship - and would likely be more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted March 22, 2019 #32 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, MaritimeR&R said: I know there is supposed to be transportation within the "park" in the form of a tram/s that run every 15 minutes, but that is one long walk for a toddler or an elderly person from where the ship is berthed to the entrance of the park, especially carrying anything with them. I hope there will be some kind of transportation besides being in a wheel chair for those people who can not walk the distance from the ship to where the tram/s will be provided. I think the same thing about Labadee. I wish they had some kind of tram that would come to the ship there, too. I doubt they have it at either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk308 Posted March 22, 2019 #33 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Used the pier on Enchantment yesterday. Very convenient, though the late afternoon stragglers may disagree. There was a huge line to get back on the ship about 4:30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maraprince Posted March 22, 2019 #34 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Anything is better than having to tender to the island from the ship! Makes it easier to get back on if we do not like what we find once on the island. MARAPRINCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted March 22, 2019 #35 Share Posted March 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Maraprince said: Anything is better than having to tender to the island from the ship! Makes it easier to get back on if we do not like what we find once on the island. MARAPRINCE LOL I never want to leave CocoCay....love it there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDMTRAVEL Posted March 22, 2019 #36 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Hawk308 said: Used the pier on Enchantment yesterday. Very convenient, though the late afternoon stragglers may disagree. There was a huge line to get back on the ship about 4:30. Is the lagoon pool open as well or just the pier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk308 Posted March 22, 2019 #37 Share Posted March 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, MANDMTRAVEL said: Is the lagoon pool open as well or just the pier? Big pool was open, as was the new food service area. Food was the best lunch of the cruise and the pool is unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatour Posted March 22, 2019 #38 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Biker19 said: Because the latency would suck (and lead to poor real world performance for most), just like on the ship - and would likely be more expensive. Coca Cay is between 45-50 miles from other major Bahama Islands. Grand Bahama, Nassau, Great Abaco. Not sure if the cruise lines would pay to lay the cable to get to their islands however, there are three. Coca Cay and right next to it is NCL. In the vicinity is Disney. I doubt the bean counters would allow this even if all three companies go into it together. Another alternative would be if we assume Grand Bahama has a wired connection to the mainland. Then they put up repeater towers between it and the private islands. There are other populated islands in the vicinity that may have some of the infrasturture already in place that they can piggy-back on. I am no expert on network communication if this speculation is even close to potential reality. Now back to the latency issue. Just because you are on a private island in the middle of the Bahama sea why would expect better performance than being on ship? Also keep in mind charging for the service. The easiest way is to "extend" each cruise ship existing internet Satellite connection to the island. As each ship pulls in the island the islands wifi network "plugs" into the ship existing satelite infrastructure. Part of which is to validate what has been bought in regards to an individual passenger access. The other alternative is to have a satellite up/down link on the island. They can download each passengers information in regards if they have an internet package to servers located at the satellite up/down stations. I am pretty sure the multi-millionaires go a satellite up/down link route on their private islands. Think of the days before ATT bought DirectTV. DirectTV offered a internet connection through satellites. Took more hardware on your roof but was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shipshape sam Posted March 22, 2019 #39 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 3:14 PM, nashirak said: It’s not fake news, the pier really is open for some ships that don’t need the farther out bollards. We are here right now. Captain also said there will be another ship at the pier tomorrow. I’m also posting on the WiFi at the snorkel beach. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Great news. Our luck was about 50% in being able to tender and we decided to avoid Coco Cay till dock was open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 22, 2019 #40 Share Posted March 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, gatour said: Now back to the latency issue. Just because you are on a private island in the middle of the Bahama sea why would expect better performance than being on ship? Because some of crappiest land based internet connections can sometimes have lower latency than the best connection on an O3B based ship. Biker, who thinks OneWeb will resolve this issue in a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAmome Posted March 22, 2019 #41 Share Posted March 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, shipshape sam said: Great news. Our luck was about 50% in being able to tender and we decided to avoid Coco Cay till dock was open. They will still cancel with bad weather or if so windy might damage dock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted March 22, 2019 #42 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 9:19 AM, nashirak said: This was in my cruise compass for my 3/18-3/23 on Mariner yesterday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The letter says that Oasis Lagoon is "the largest freshwater pool in the Caribbean". I'm guessing geography is not one of the letter writer's strong suits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatour Posted March 23, 2019 #43 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 4:42 PM, Biker19 said: Because some of crappiest land based internet connections can sometimes have lower latency than the best connection on an O3B based ship. Biker, who thinks OneWeb will resolve this issue in a couple of years. Did you not see the part about "Cost" to do land based internet connections, when multiple ships are docking and how to validate them back to the packages. From my prior post... Also keep in mind charging for the service. The easiest way is to "extend" each cruise ship existing internet Satellite connection to the island. As each ship pulls in the island the islands wifi network "plugs" into the ship existing satelite infrastructure. Part of which is to validate what has been bought in regards to an individual passenger access. The other alternative is to have a satellite up/down link on the island. They can download each passengers information in regards if they have an internet package to servers located at the satellite up/down stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted March 23, 2019 #44 Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, gatour said: Did you not see the part about "Cost" to do land based internet connections, when multiple ships are docking and how to validate them back to the packages. What does that have to do with latency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A2Mich Posted March 23, 2019 #45 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 7:19 AM, Katy_Tbird said: Why wouldn't they use regular satellite internet? The island doesn't move around so the signal would be constant and fast. No need to beam or cable it from a land-based source. IT isn’t my area of expertise. Was just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted March 25, 2019 #46 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 4:16 PM, gatour said: Coca Cay is between 45-50 miles from other major Bahama Islands. Grand Bahama, Nassau, Great Abaco. Not sure if the cruise lines would pay to lay the cable to get to their islands however, there are three. Coca Cay and right next to it is NCL. In the vicinity is Disney. I doubt the bean counters would allow this even if all three companies go into it together. Another alternative would be if we assume Grand Bahama has a wired connection to the mainland. Then they put up repeater towers between it and the private islands. There are other populated islands in the vicinity that may have some of the infrasturture already in place that they can piggy-back on. I am no expert on network communication if this speculation is even close to potential reality. They could also run a fiber line to one island, then microwave link to the other islands. Or, depending on the tower heights, microwave link from one of the major islands to the private islands. Tropospheric scatter ("troposcatter" or "scatter") was a technology developed in the 1950s to allow microwave communication links beyond the horizon, to a range of several hundred kilometers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShillyShally Posted March 25, 2019 #47 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 9:29 AM, Biker19 said: Because the latency would suck (and lead to poor real world performance for most), just like on the ship - and would likely be more expensive. Ha, they just said they'd have WiFi, did they ever promise it would be usable? 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted March 25, 2019 #48 Share Posted March 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, ShillyShally said: Ha, they just said they'd have WiFi, did they ever promise it would be usable? 🙂 If the island has cell service...people could create their own WIFI hotspots of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 25, 2019 #49 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, CRUISEFAN0001 said: If the island has cell service...people could create their own WIFI hotspots of course. I've never seen any indication of cell service on Coco Cay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted March 25, 2019 #50 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: I've never seen any indication of cell service on Coco Cay. Not surprised...but just making the point that there are a number of ways that communications could be established - even via an "extension" of a ship's phone or WIFI systems. It is technologically possible, but appears to not yet be in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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