soremekun Posted September 8, 2019 #1 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Occasionally, Anthem of the Seas will do a Canada / New England itinerary and visit Boston. When the Oasis of the Seas does a similar itinerary, it skips Boston. The Anthem has a draft of 29 feet. Oasis has a draft of 31 feet. Queen Mary 2 has a draft of 34 feet and visits Boston. Per this article, the harbor depth should be sufficient. So my questions are: Can the harbor and cruise port accomodate an Oasis class ship? Why do you think an Oasis class ship will not home port / visit Boston for at least during the months of May - September? Edited September 8, 2019 by soremekun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted September 8, 2019 Author #2 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Here is the Flynn Cruise Port schedule. Edited September 8, 2019 by soremekun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted September 8, 2019 #3 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Oasis is doing one 6 night NE/Canada itinerary, they had to choose one port to skip, they chose Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted September 8, 2019 #4 Share Posted September 8, 2019 50 minutes ago, soremekun said: ... Why do you think an Oasis class ship will not home port / visit Boston for at least during the months of May - September? Home porting would likely require significant upgrades to the cruise terminal and associated infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted September 8, 2019 #5 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Perhaps it's more than depth. Width wise when we stopped in Boston on Adventure it felt tight going into the channel in front of the terminals. I can't imagine Oasis would have fit if another ship is present. In Key West it isn't depth but dog legs in the channel into the harbor that keep Voyager class out. They tried it once IIRC but haven't since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted September 9, 2019 #6 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Host Clarea said: Home porting would likely require significant upgrades to the cruise terminal and associated infrastructure. Agree, small Facilities for that many passengers getting on/off with only 2 medium size rooms. Port Everglades Oasis Class uses are 4 times size of Bostons Edited September 9, 2019 by ONECRUISER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted September 9, 2019 #7 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Host Clarea said: Home porting would likely require significant upgrades to the cruise terminal and associated infrastructure. Sailed out of Black Falcon Terminal once. It was a circus act coming and going and that was on Jewel. Can't imagine what an Oasis Class would bring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 9, 2019 #8 Share Posted September 9, 2019 They chose Bayonne because New York is a much bigger market for Oasis class than Boston is. I think the whole exercise of bringing Oasis to Bayonne, especially the singular New England/Canada cruise, is an experiment and/or a marketing stunt. If it is successful then maybe some year they will further experiment with calling at Boston, but I seriously doubt Boston will ever be a home port for her class. I"m planning to drive to Portland to see Oasis come in next summer. That should be quite a spectacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted September 9, 2019 Author #9 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Host Clarea said: Home porting would likely require significant upgrades to the cruise terminal and associated infrastructure. Hopefully the upgrades to the cruise terminal are coming soon per this article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted September 9, 2019 #10 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Big_G said: Sailed out of Black Falcon Terminal once. It was a circus act coming and going and that was on Jewel. Can't imagine what an Oasis Class would bring. We have sailed from there a few times but only once when there were two ships embarking at the same time, that was crazy. We sail again in October and there are three ships in port, but two are on ports of call, so shouldn't be as bad. Jewel and Brilliance weren't too bad, hoping Serenade will be the same. NCL was crazy disembarking, won't be doing that again anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted September 9, 2019 Author #11 Share Posted September 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Pratique said: They chose Bayonne because New York is a much bigger market for Oasis class than Boston is. I think the whole exercise of bringing Oasis to Bayonne, especially the singular New England/Canada cruise, is an experiment and/or a marketing stunt. If it is successful then maybe some year they will further experiment with calling at Boston, but I seriously doubt Boston will ever be a home port for her class. I"m planning to drive to Portland to see Oasis come in next summer. That should be quite a spectacle. Can you record it and upload the video to YouTube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted September 9, 2019 #12 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I don’t have any interest in a Canada New England itinerary. However, if I did decide to sail that route it would be on Quantum class ship. It’s the only class ship among the all of the lines that sail that itinerary that’s designed for cold/rainy weather. Oasis is so limited as to where they can dock and I can’t imagine them filling that ship in the fall with families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mets123 Posted September 9, 2019 #13 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Could the width of the ship be the issue? Quantum class is 138 feet, I believe, and Oasis about 210 feet. I may be off by a few feet on either ship, but you get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 9, 2019 #14 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, soremekun said: Can you record it and upload the video to YouTube? I hope to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 9, 2019 #15 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Another problem with Boston is that it takes at least a day and a half to get to the Bahamas from New York, so figure another six to 12 hours from Boston. Not really workable on a seven-day itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted September 9, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, mets123 said: Could the width of the ship be the issue? Quantum class is 138 feet, I believe, and Oasis about 210 feet. I may be off by a few feet on either ship, but you get my point. 16 hours ago, twangster said: Perhaps it's more than depth. Width wise when we stopped in Boston on Adventure it felt tight going into the channel in front of the terminals. I can't imagine Oasis would have fit if another ship is present. In Key West it isn't depth but dog legs in the channel into the harbor that keep Voyager class out. They tried it once IIRC but haven't since. My gosh she is thick and wide. But I love her! Perhaps width is a factor with this ship porting in Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekeyman Posted September 14, 2019 #17 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 6:01 PM, soremekun said: Occasionally, Anthem of the Seas will do a Canada / New England itinerary and visit Boston. When the Oasis of the Seas does a similar itinerary, it skips Boston. The Anthem has a draft of 29 feet. Oasis has a draft of 31 feet. Queen Mary 2 has a draft of 34 feet and visits Boston. Per this article, the harbor depth should be sufficient. So my questions are: Can the harbor and cruise port accomodate an Oasis class ship? Why do you think an Oasis class ship will not home port / visit Boston for at least during the months of May - September? My guess was depth and demand, but that should change in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 14, 2019 #18 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) On 9/9/2019 at 12:07 PM, soremekun said: My gosh she is thick and wide. But I love her! Perhaps width is a factor with this ship porting in Boston. And yes, I know it's a ship Edited September 14, 2019 by John&LaLa 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted September 14, 2019 Author #19 Share Posted September 14, 2019 @John&LaLa Perfect application! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 15, 2019 #20 Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 9:20 AM, mets123 said: Could the width of the ship be the issue? Quantum class is 138 feet, I believe, and Oasis about 210 feet. I may be off by a few feet on either ship, but you get my point. The difference in beam is not as great as this. You are comparing Quantum's waterline beam to Oasis' maximum beam. The figures for comparison are: Waterline beam Oasis: 154 ft Quantum: 136 ft Maximum beam (bridge wings, lifeboats, restaurant humps, no effect on navigation) Oasis: 198 ft Quantum: 162 ft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted September 15, 2019 #21 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I remember NCL bringing the Epic up to the NY port and they had to remove the lifeboats on one side of the ship to fit into the berth. That was a one and done situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted September 15, 2019 #22 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, chengkp75 said: The difference in beam is not as great as this. You are comparing Quantum's waterline beam to Oasis' maximum beam. The figures for comparison are: Waterline beam Oasis: 154 ft Quantum: 136 ft Maximum beam (bridge wings, lifeboats, restaurant humps, no effect on navigation) Oasis: 198 ft Quantum: 162 ft Chief, did you get these figures from a publicly accessible website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 15, 2019 #23 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Host Clarea said: Chief, did you get these figures from a publicly accessible website? I'll admit to using Wiki. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted September 15, 2019 #24 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, chengkp75 said: I'll admit to using Wiki. Reason I asked is that I've used Wiki before and seen some numbers that don't make sense, so I figured there must be some authoritative source (USCG?) that professionals use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 15, 2019 #25 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Host Clarea said: Reason I asked is that I've used Wiki before and seen some numbers that don't make sense, so I figured there must be some authoritative source (USCG?) that professionals use. Marinetraffic has some of this data, and the "official" site would be the class society site, if you know which one the company uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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