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Report: Cruise Ship Industry to Set Sail Again Nov. 1
The CDC and White House reportedly compromise on the no-sail ban extension.


Rich Duprey
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Sep 30, 2020 at 1:26PM

The cruise ship industry will be allowed to take to the high seas again beginning Nov. 1, after the Centers for Disease Control and the White House Coronavirus Task Force on COVID-19 reached an agreement to extend the no-sail ban set to expire today.

 

The CDC wanted to extend the cruise ban all the way to Feb. 15, but compromised to extend it another month to Oct. 31, coinciding with the self-imposed ban industry stalwarts like Carnival (NYSE:CCL)(NYSE:CUK), Royal Caribbean (NYSE:RCL), and Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings (NASDAQ:NCLH) agreed to independently.

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It was also reported cruise line CEOs are scheduled to meet with the White House on Friday to discuss when and how they will be allowed to resume their businesses again.

Deaths associated with coronavirus are declining after six months, though some fear the death toll could double by the new year if a second wave strikes. Some of the most severe outbreaks of COVID-19 occurred on cruise ships.

 

However, Carnival, Royal Caribbean, and Norwegian have developed safety and social distancing protocols to help prevent a similar outbreak.

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6 minutes ago, boscobeans said:

It was also reported cruise line CEOs are scheduled to meet with the White House on Friday to discuss when and how they will be allowed to resume their businesses again.

 

As they say in some parts of NYC...

 

"Oy Vey!"

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The bigger question is whether foreign ports are open. The only "noise" out there is Cozumel. We haven't heard from or about any other Caribbean ports. If the CEOs are meeting on Friday, that would align with my theoretic schedule for getting crew and ships where they need to be, prepping ports for testing, and being ready to go. I have a feeling that the Bahamas have worked a contract deal to allow their private islands to be used (Stirrup Cay, Coco Cay, Half Moon, Castaway). It keeps the country safe for the restart. After a few good sailings and results, 2021 may require Nassau stops for any cruise going to a private island (the backdoor deal to open). 

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Did the CDC just recommended 15-Feb or did they do so with justification of what will be different by then?  The previous orders and extensions were completely arbitrary. Is this proposal not the same? 

 

Is there anything to suggest that we won't still be in this a perpetual state of hiding from the virus while crossing fingers for a vaccine? 

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I don't think it will happen in just 30 days here's why:

Only a few ships, so do they cancel all the others?

If they cancel your cruise, do they just switch you to the one going?

Limited Occupancy, do they cancel others and if so How do they decide?

Do you need a virus test? What if you have a back to back?

Are these just cruises to no where?

 

It seems to be a logistical nightmare for the powers to be to figure all this out, then start all the switch a roos and keep everyone happy.

 

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1 hour ago, time4u2go said:

Can the cruise lines staff ships that soon?

 

No doubt NOT ALL SHIPS OR CRUISES will be able to start up by NOV. First.

But a return of many from now OPEN ports will be possible. They may be very different but at least they will be sailing and at 50-60 % brining in some needed income.

 

 

If given a date, I have seen where the management claims in 30 days they can easily  have a full staff ready and prepared to deal with the new onboard Covid-19 rules..

 

There are many experienced crew members that have been waiting to return to their ships.

 

Provisioning is no problem as will dock and terminal workers who also are experienced and just waiting to return to work.

 

If the NOVEMBER FIRST date is firmed up I am sure they will quickly begin calling back their staff and getting things ready over the month of OCTOBER. 

 

Depending on ports of call and whether or not they are open there will at the least be a lot of changes to itineraries  in order to stay within the law.  I would hope they are trying for a temporary respite from the Jones Act and work on some inventive rescheduling as far as ports and itineraries..

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It's always been speculated that each cruise line will only sail a limited number of ships whenever they resume(at limited capacity). We're now exactly a month away from US cruises restarting and there's still no official word. I feel bad for anyone booked on a cruise the beginning of November and still not knowing if they are sailing or not.

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1 minute ago, toad455 said:

It's always been speculated that each cruise line will only sail a limited number of ships whenever they resume(at limited capacity). We're now exactly a month away from US cruises restarting and there's still no official word. I feel bad for anyone booked on a cruise the beginning of November and still not knowing if they are sailing or not.

 

Our closest cruise is Nov. 13th and it is just an 8 night from Jersey to Florida, Coco Cay and the Bahamas. 

 

The latest word from the Bahamian Govt. on Phase 4 Starting on November 1st, 2020.

The government will then start planning for Phase 4 which is good news for the cruise industry as vendors, select attractions, casinos, cruises, and ferries will all get the green light during this time.

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10 minutes ago, toad455 said:

It's always been speculated that each cruise line will only sail a limited number of ships whenever they resume(at limited capacity). We're now exactly a month away from US cruises restarting and there's still no official word. I feel bad for anyone booked on a cruise the beginning of November and still not knowing if they are sailing or not.

Since they will be meeting tomorrow, everything should be cleared up as to what is what.  I do hope.

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6 minutes ago, jalves said:

So, November 1st is the next October 1st which was the next September 1st?  Do we have any more reason to think that deadline won't get extended again?

 

Sure, very possible but with a cruise in November we are not ignoring the [possibility that we will be sailing and will be making plans accordingly until we are told the cruise is cancelled.

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I am not quite sure what the no-sail order means in this - part of the cruise lines' plans to resume is to do test cruises with staff as guests to work out kinks..... would this count and not be able to start this part of the process until November 1st?

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