WHEN DO YOU BELIEVE PRINCESS WULL BE SAILING FROM USA PORTS

[MsSoCalCruiser]

3 minutes ago, Tapi said:

Yes, HAHA.

Same!

[Tapi]

3 minutes ago, MsSoCalCruiser said:

Same!

Awesome! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for both you and me. 🤞🏼 

[MsSoCalCruiser]

Just now, Tapi said:

Awesome! I’ll keep my fingers crossed for both you and me. 🤞🏼 

Thanks!  And I will too!

[NSWP]

2 hours ago, antsp said:

Princess start sailing from Southampton in 95 days, non of the crew ( maybe most ) are not vaccinated 

Surely that is neglect by Princess, mandatory for pax but not for crew? Bizzare.

[Syracusefan44]

Negotiations with the CDC regarding a Caribbean restart per this article.

 

https://www.travelpulse.com/news/cruise/cruise-lines-cdc-discussing-caribbean-relaunch.html

[stevenr597]

7 hours ago, mcrcruiser said:

In reality it is the cruise industry that is not  living up to what the CDC proposed to protect every one  on ships & land  . 

Have to disagree.  The Cruise Industry has tried their best to cooperate.  But the CDC has been constantly changing the rules, if they even bother to have any in the first place. 

[stevenr597]

5 hours ago, donaldsc said:

 

If the sailings don't sail out of US ports, how can the CDC stop sailings out of Nassau.  Nassau is an independent country and is not regulated by US regulations.

 

DON

They can make it difficult for Americans to travel to the islands

[donaldsc]

Just now, stevenr597 said:

They can make it difficult for Americans to travel to the islands

 

How?  Are they going to stop airline flights to the islands?  What else can they do?  Please be specific.  

 

DON

[4hunters]

4 hours ago, Tapi said:

December 18th, 2021 is my guess

Incorrect!  They are going to start November 5th, 2021 out of LA, bound for Hawaii!  😁

 

Edit:  And yes, that's my next scheduled cruise.  😉

Edited April 28, 2021 by 4hunters

[nocl]

1 hour ago, stevenr597 said:

Have to disagree.  The Cruise Industry has tried their best to cooperate.  But the CDC has been constantly changing the rules, if they even bother to have any in the first place. 

Now where exactly has the CDC changed the requirements that they published in the CSO last November?  The only change was the publishing of a technical document to provide more guidance on the port agreement portion.

 

So where exactly has the CDC constantly changed the rules?

 

Where are any signs of the cruise lines completing any steps beyond safe crew transfer requirements?

 

There is now technical meetings taking place between the CDC and the cruise lines that were scheduled after the recent White House meeting.  The stated purpose of the meeting was for the cruise lines to present their top concerns with the CSO.

[caribill]

WHEN DO YOU BELIEVE PRINCESS WILL BE SAILING FROM USA PORTS?

 

When Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy can agree on a restart date.

[mcrcruiser]

15 minutes ago, caribill said:

WHEN DO YOU BELIEVE PRINCESS WILL BE SAILING FROM USA PORTS?

 

When Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy can agree on a restart date.

LOL ;but surely you have your own gut feel as to  a maybe  start to cruise from US ports ?

[caribill]

2 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said:

LOL ;but surely you have your own gut feel as to  a maybe  start to cruise from US ports ?

 

When the crew can get vaccinated. Hard to figure out when that can happen.

 

Now that the CDC says test voyages will not be needed if crew and passengers are vaccinated, maybe some summer cruises can start from the USA.

[Porky55]

Unless the cruise lines (Princess) actually do the vaccinations for the crew themselves, it looks very much like 2022 restart. 
Considering a large portion of crew are from India where things are grim 🙄

[NSWP]

2 hours ago, caribill said:

WHEN DO YOU BELIEVE PRINCESS WILL BE SAILING FROM USA PORTS?

 

When Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy can agree on a restart date.

As the john mathis song goes...The twelth of never.

Edited April 29, 2021 by NSWP

[NSWP]

1 hour ago, caribill said:

 

When the crew can get vaccinated. Hard to figure out when that can happen.

 

Now that the CDC says test voyages will not be needed if crew and passengers are vaccinated, maybe some summer cruises can start from the USA.

Easy then all crew and pax vaccinated, lets go.

[NSWP]

9 hours ago, donaldsc said:

 

How?  Are they going to stop airline flights to the islands?  What else can they do?  Please be specific.  

 

DON

Easy dont let  them board, they did it here in Oz when state borders closed.

[voljeep]

it's a beautiful morning ... watching the CB arrive in PE to get the crew vaccinated with doses that would otherwise expire today !

 

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[Fat Albert]

19 hours ago, westcoaster said:

September 2022 is a long way off, and I suspect the situation in Canada will be much different by then.  Canada is set to overtake the U.S. in terms of % of population with at least one vaccine dose within about a month, and will likely overtake the U.S. in % of fully vaccinated people some time this summer.  Once 80% or so of people are vaccinated, I think Canada will be much more open to allowing cruise ship stops.

The staggering COVID-19 case numbers in the United States may have seemed like a world away compared to Canada's relative caseload for most of the pandemic, but recent statistics show the growing severity of the situation on this side of the border.

Friday, April 9 marked the first day since the early days of the pandemic in March 2020 that Canada averaged more confirmed cases per million people than the U.S.

 

The running graphic from Our World in Data — which uses statistics from Johns Hopkins University to juxtapose the seven-day average number of cases in both countries — showed that trend continuing on Saturday.

Experts say differences in the countries' vaccine rollouts and the presence of more transmissible variants in Canada contributed to this situation, but context is critical when comparing what's happening in both countries.

Canada reported 3,091 confirmed COVID-19 cases on Feb. 19 — while on April 9, the country recorded 9,243 cases, according to a CBC News tally.

"We didn't react and we didn't have the opportunity to roll out the vaccine program fast enough due to supply chain challenges," said Carr, who founded EPI Research in Winnipeg.

The U.S. has outpaced Canada in terms of delivering vaccines in both total amount of doses given and on a per capita basis; as of Monday, Our World in Data shows that more than 35 per cent of the total U.S. population has received at least one dose, compared to just over 19 per cent in Canada.

As for cases, both Carr and Chagla suggested that the actual number in the U.S. is likely higher than the confirmed total, while Carr reiterated the impact of the more highly transmissible variants of concern in Canada.

"Canada is one of the only countries in the world to be dealing with all three [variants of concern] and again, the more than double [the number] of cases in less than two months shows the impact," she said.

[Fat Albert]

Emily Rauhala

April 23, 2021 at 6:34 p.m. PDT

FORT ERIE, Ontario — Here in this border town just across the Niagara River from New York state, televisions carry stations from Buffalo. In recent weeks, the news from the U.S. side has been somewhat irksome.

 

In Erie County, N.Y., everyone 16 years of age and older became eligible for a coronavirus vaccine this month. On the Canadian side, meanwhile, inoculations have been mostly limited to people 40 years and older, Indigenous adults, and other priority groups. And they’re getting only the first shot, for now.

“It’s a point of frustration within Canada and within Niagara,” said Wayne Redekop, Fort Erie’s mayor. “Residents are looking to see who’s getting vaccinated and where. … It seems like if you’re in the United States and you want a vaccination, you can get it.”

After a bumpy start, Canada’s vaccination rollout has picked up pace in recent weeks. Still, the sight of the United States — a neighbor with which the country frequently compares itself — awash in vaccines and racing ahead to inoculate the population is fueling frustration. 

Ontario, Canada’s most-populous province, is also among its hardest-hit. Cases have blown past a January peak. Its intensive care units are under such strain that children’s hospitals are admitting adults.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford has blamed the current surge in cases and hospitalizations on the federal government, which he says has failed to procure enough vaccines. His lockdown measures, meanwhile, have provoked an angry backlash across the province. Infectious-disease experts accuse him of easing restrictions prematurely, against their advice.

Here in southern Ontario’s Niagara region, about 30 percent of residents have received at least one dose of a vaccine and 2 percent are fully vaccinated, according to government data. In neighboring Erie and Niagara counties on the U.S. side, roughly 45 percent of people have been given at least one dose; 32 percent have been fully vaccinated.

Canada’s variant-fueled covid-19 surge prompts new restrictions

By Monday, at President Biden’s request, all U.S. states had expanded vaccine eligibility to everyone 16 and older. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said every Canadian who wants a vaccine will have one by the end of September.

 

[K.T.B.]

19 hours ago, K.T.B. said:

I still say October of this year.  But the CDC needs to step up their game and actually give some guidance rather than a check list.  IMO, they can start working towards test cruises as early as mid-June.

 

Well, based on what the CDC said late yesterday, I wasn't too far off on my earliest guess.  Still up to the cruise lines to get their act together.

 

EDIT to add:  LINK

Edited April 29, 2021 by K.T.B.

[Syracusefan44]

Late last night, the CDC provided cruise lines with an update that opens up the possibility of cruises to restart this summer.

Mr. Fain of Royal Caribbean said the letter is an example of "a significant improvement in the extent and the quality of our dialogue with the CDC."  According to Fain, the CDC has recently significantly increased its efforts in terms of improved communication between the cruise industry and the federal agency.

 

Mr. Fain did not rule out a July restart, "It could be possible to restart cruising by mid-July."  "I would also emphasize that the restart does not mean that we will immediately go into full operation. We are hopeful about restarting. That restart will be gradual and deliberate."

Edited April 29, 2021 by Syracusefan44

[mcrcruiser]

52 minutes ago, Syracusefan44 said:

Late last night, the CDC provided cruise lines with an update that opens up the possibility of cruises to restart this summer.

Mr. Fain of Royal Caribbean said the letter is an example of "a significant improvement in the extent and the quality of our dialogue with the CDC."  According to Fain, the CDC has recently significantly increased its efforts in terms of improved communication between the cruise industry and the federal agency.

 

Mr. Fain did not rule out a July restart, "It could be possible to restart cruising by mid-July."  "I would also emphasize that the restart does not mean that we will immediately go into full operation. We are hopeful about restarting. That restart will be gradual and deliberate."

We would take any summer month to restart  cruising from US ports😀

 

[Cruzinnana47]

Hoping by Nov., 2021....specifically Nov. 30th.....😉

 

Seriously though,  it looks like if all goes well, perhaps by fall.

[c-boy]

6 hours ago, voljeep said:

it's a beautiful morning ... watching the CB arrive in PE to get the crew vaccinated with doses that would otherwise expire today !

 

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