Tougher Enforcement on Use of Hand Sanitizer

[CallyCruzer]

When you return to the ship, you must show your card as you reach the gangplank,followed immediately by the crew member with the hand sanitizer, so no I really don't think they walk around the port hiding their card for 6-8 hours. But thanks for the snippiness.

 

 

You are welcome.... if that is how you took it. What I was trying to get across there were at least 3 or 4 comments about how hard it is to use hand sanitizer at the dock because you had your card in your hand. Common sense tells you that you can put your card back where you pulled it out of for the day and use the sanitizer. With 22 cruises under my belt, I have never not been able to juggle my sea pass and take the time to protect myself and others. A little inconvenience with the sea passes can save you a lot more inconveniences if you get sick or make others sick.

[jkgourmet]

Sickness is Not a new issue on the Infinity.

 

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Edited February 12, 2015 by jkgourmet

[wwcruisers]

You might take your own advice. Your post quoting me come across as more than a little rude.

Please, read my post again as to getting ON the ship. When you GET TO the ship, you must show your card. Whatever may be on my hand is now on my card. Then they great you with sanitizer. When you GET TO the scanner you must show your card, again. Whatever was on my card is now on my hand again. If they insist on sanitizer, it should be OFFERED before I get my card from my purse.

 

When you return to the ship, you must show your card as you reach the gangplank,followed immediately by the crew member with the hand sanitizer, so no I really don't think they walk around the port hiding their card for 6-8 hours. But thanks for the snippiness.

 

Patty and Rich -- don't know if the poster you're both replying to is a man or woman. But, my guess is that it's someone who doesn't know that womens' clothes don't have pockets! My DH can just slip his sea-pass into his pocket, in that situation. I have to keep mine in my purse. So, in that LONG line to re-board the ship, I have two choices:

 

-- secure my sea-pass in my purse, while I get "squirted", and then make everyone behind me wait for me to dig it out again, or

-- politely decline the purell, until after they check my card (which is now done with a scanner -- no contact necessary).

 

BTW -- after it has been scanned, I stow my sea-pass and use my own hand sanitizer, from Bath & Body Works. I never leave the ship without it. :cool:

Edited February 12, 2015 by wwcruisers

[A Sixth?]

I was in quite a few that didn't have the handicap door opener. One in particular, is the ladies room outside the theatre on the Summit, right next to it, is a dedicated handicap restroom.

 

Huh, I gotta start using the ladies room more... :p

 

Seems like the mechanical opening thingy is a start.

 

 

How much did I pay exactly for this tummy ache?

 

 

Edited February 12, 2015 by A Sixth?

[Queen of Oakville]

I quite agree - I use the hand sanitiser at every opportunity too, like yourself, better safe than sorry. I have also taught my kids (much to their annoyance) to not touch any lift buttons, or handrails, around the ship. Well I have to have to nag them constantly or they would think I am ill....:D

 

Well, if you ever sail with me, you'll recognize my kids ... they push the elevator buttons with their elbows :D

 

 

We wash hands before leaving the cabin. Try to make minimal contact with any surfaces on route to the MDR. We use the MDR sanitizer and then we sanitize again after ordering, and again before eating. We bring about 10 bottles of B&BW sanitizer on each cruise - one for each backpack, one for the pool bag, my purse, my daughter's purse and a few to loose on board. I doubt its effective against Noro ... but that isn't the only virus on board. We too have never gotten sick on a cruise.

[davekathy]

Well, if you ever sail with me, you'll recognize my kids ... they push the elevator buttons with their elbows :D

 

 

We wash hands before leaving the cabin. Try to make minimal contact with any surfaces on route to the MDR. We use the MDR sanitizer and then we sanitize again after ordering, and again before eating. We bring about 10 bottles of B&BW sanitizer on each cruise - one for each backpack, one for the pool bag, my purse, my daughter's purse and a few to loose on board. I doubt its effective against Noro ... but that isn't the only virus on board. We too have never gotten sick on a cruise.

 

That's how we roll also whether we're on a Cruise or just in our everyday lives. That has always been my dog in the fight concerning the use of hand sanitizers. There are a lot more ugly germs out there besides the Noro virus. I see soooo many people digging at their ears, nose and mouth and a couple other places...if you know what I mean. We'll take every precaution we can.

[wwcruisers]

We bring about 10 bottles of B&BW sanitizer on each cruise - one for each backpack, one for the pool bag, my purse, my daughter's purse and a few to loose on board. I doubt its effective against Noro ... but that isn't the only virus on board. We too have never gotten sick on a cruise.

 

LOVE B&BW's hand sanitizer -- I always stock up on travel sizes, when they have a sale. When I pack for a cruise, I always throw a handful of those into my bag. I really like the varied colors and fragrances. And, while they seem to be as effective as the plain purell, they don't dry my hands out as badly. :cool:

Edited February 12, 2015 by wwcruisers

[richsea]

You are welcome.... if that is how you took it. What I was trying to get across there were at least 3 or 4 comments about how hard it is to use hand sanitizer at the dock because you had your card in your hand. Common sense tells you that you can put your card back where you pulled it out of for the day and use the sanitizer. With 22 cruises under my belt, I have never not been able to juggle my sea pass and take the time to protect myself and others. A little inconvenience with the sea passes can save you a lot more inconveniences if you get sick or make others sick.

 

Unfortunately, not everyone has the absolute common sense that others have, or the ability to juggle.:rolleyes:

[NLH Arizona]

Huh, I gotta start using the ladies room more... :p

 

Seems like the mechanical opening thingy is a start.

 

 

 

How much did I pay exactly for this tummy ache?

 

 

Din't have anything like this on the Summit restrooms I went into.

 

Yes, they would be a start, but I still wouldn't push it with my bare hand.

 

Don't quite understand your tummy ache remark.

Edited February 12, 2015 by NLH Arizona

[RocketMan275]

 

Could the crew and or supervisors, especially in eating areas ask passengers to cover their mouths or even hand out masks? I think Celebrity has failed in this area.

 

What would be the point of being in an "eating area" and wearing a mask? Wouldn't wearing a mask be, at least, somewhat awkward while eating?

[shipshape sam]

Recent Royal Caribbean cruise, hand sanitizers were very public with person standing there in buffet area, but no pushing of usage.

 

In public restrooms (US term)were signs suggesting taking the paper towel and using to open the door.

 

Hate to say it, but very few did and on occasion, guys did not even wash or flush. Hard to explain as it would not be easy to identify them just standing around.

 

So......for me, I wash my hands with sanitizer as we enter buffet and then again before I open my napkin to touch silverware. Also, I try to not touch my eyes, nose or mouth unless I have just washed my hands.

 

Like idea of mechanical door openers. Not sure cruise lines would ever install as it still does not prevent the crude guys who do nothing in restrooms.

 

I agree about 'no masks'.

 

I would accept, if needed, staff manning the food stations, but that is an added cost and would for sure create lines

[hcat]

I dislike someone coming into my personal space attempting to pour drippy sanitizer on my hands....esp when it drips on clothing , handbag etc...they must water it down

 

, Much prefer stand alone units..plus I wash my hands and carry my own non drippy sanitizer, and use paper towels to open door,,,

[cruise47]

I think it is reasonable to ask, but you can't force someone to take personal responsibility. You can only take responsibility for you. That's the reality.

 

You are so correct.

[patty1955]

I hate to drag up an old thread, but I just read about something that applies to this subject.

My husband and I generally avoid hand sanitizers because we believe that to build up immunity, you need to be exposed to germs and bacteria. Obviously we don't mean handling nasty things or deliberately exposing ourselves to sick individuals but we don't try to sterilize our environment. We had a real struggle not interfering with my son-in-law's insistence on washing our granddaughter's hands each time she touched anything out of the ordinary. We have traveled a far amount and the only problem we've had with health was respiratory problems after visiting Shanghai.

Yesterday, the news carried stories about childhood peanut allergies. The stories referenced something called "hygiene hypothesis" that explains our beliefs regarding cleanliness. This article explains the idea:

http://fooddrugallergy.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=40

While you may not agree there has been some serious research done by reputable scientist that back up this theory.

Please, don't assume that other people are dirty, thoughtless or ignorant if they don't use sanitizers. They may be right.

[seahorse]

I hate to drag up an old thread, but I just read about something that applies to this subject.

My husband and I generally avoid hand sanitizers because we believe that to build up immunity, you need to be exposed to germs and bacteria. Obviously we don't mean handling nasty things or deliberately exposing ourselves to sick individuals but we don't try to sterilize our environment. We had a real struggle not interfering with my son-in-law's insistence on washing our granddaughter's hands each time she touched anything out of the ordinary. We have traveled a far amount and the only problem we've had with health was respiratory problems after visiting Shanghai.

Yesterday, the news carried stories about childhood peanut allergies. The stories referenced something called "hygiene hypothesis" that explains our beliefs regarding cleanliness. This article explains the idea:

http://fooddrugallergy.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=40

While you may not agree there has been some serious research done by reputable scientist that back up this theory.

Please, don't assume that other people are dirty, thoughtless or ignorant if they don't use sanitizers. They may be right.

 

This may be in building immunity in a child but if you have immunity problems ie.......auto immune diseases, undergoing cancer treatment etc. please use sanitary precautions in a closed crowded setting. Think of others.

[lisiamc]

I hate to drag up an old thread, but I just read about something that applies to this subject.

My husband and I generally avoid hand sanitizers because we believe that to build up immunity, you need to be exposed to germs and bacteria. Obviously we don't mean handling nasty things or deliberately exposing ourselves to sick individuals but we don't try to sterilize our environment. We had a real struggle not interfering with my son-in-law's insistence on washing our granddaughter's hands each time she touched anything out of the ordinary. We have traveled a far amount and the only problem we've had with health was respiratory problems after visiting Shanghai.

Yesterday, the news carried stories about childhood peanut allergies. The stories referenced something called "hygiene hypothesis" that explains our beliefs regarding cleanliness. This article explains the idea:

http://fooddrugallergy.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=40

While you may not agree there has been some serious research done by reputable scientist that back up this theory.

Please, don't assume that other people are dirty, thoughtless or ignorant if they don't use sanitizers. They may be right.

 

I save my immunity-building for when I'm not on a cruise. We don't use antibacterial anything at home, although we do wash our hands before we eat. On the ship, I wash my hands frequently, AND use the hand sanitiser.

 

From what I've read, immunity from Noro doesn't last more than a few weeks, so I don't see any point in trying to build immunity to that! I'll just try to stay away from germy surfaces as much as possible and make sure my hands are washed and gelled, especially before I eat.

Edited February 24, 2015 by lisiamc

[upwarduk]

The hand sanitizer only addresses the issue at that moment. While I am a vigorous washer of hands, I am not a big fan of anti-bacterial products. Viruses and bugs can develop a resistance to such products and can morph into something much more nasty.

 

The Flu injection that has been given this year in the UK has only been effective in 3% of the population, yet our government continue to recommend it, using the theory that prevention is better than cure.

 

I have said this before on these boards, my theory is that more germs are passed on in the Casino, where people are continually touching the machines- are they sanitised to prevent cross infection between players?

[ozarkmama]

I hate to drag up an old thread, but I just read about something that applies to this subject.

My husband and I generally avoid hand sanitizers because we believe that to build up immunity, you need to be exposed to germs and bacteria. Obviously we don't mean handling nasty things or deliberately exposing ourselves to sick individuals but we don't try to sterilize our environment. We had a real struggle not interfering with my son-in-law's insistence on washing our granddaughter's hands each time she touched anything out of the ordinary. We have traveled a far amount and the only problem we've had with health was respiratory problems after visiting Shanghai.

Yesterday, the news carried stories about childhood peanut allergies. The stories referenced something called "hygiene hypothesis" that explains our beliefs regarding cleanliness. This article explains the idea:

http://fooddrugallergy.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=40

While you may not agree there has been some serious research done by reputable scientist that back up this theory.

Please, don't assume that other people are dirty, thoughtless or ignorant if they don't use sanitizers. They may be right.

 

Thank you!!

[Straughn]

Another non sanitizer person here. Why? Because I have eczema on my hands and anything with alcohol aggravates it. You would be more upset if you saw me using the tongs in the buffet with my hands covered with a nasty rash which is what would happen if I used the hand sanitizer. Even though it isn't contagious, another passenger would not know that. I wash my hands before meals and use a hand lotion made to help eczema sufferers. That is the best I can do, but I am not going to aggrevate a skin condition just to satisfy the optics of entering the dining room.

 

I have been criticized by other passengers and heard the snide comments from the people behind me. I used to try to explain, but it was a waste of time and energy. I would be delighted to use the sanitizer for no other reason than this.

Edited February 24, 2015 by Straughn

[richsea]

Thanks for the link Pat. Interesting article, & certainly food for thought.

[Aquahound]

My husband and I generally avoid hand sanitizers because we believe that to build up immunity, you need to be exposed to germs and bacteria.

 

Thank you!!

 

And also from me...thank you!

 

It's been my feelings all along that kids were being over sanitized, and in the long run it's doing more harm than good.

[GottaKnowWhen]

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I have no clue which set of rumors you are basing your comment on but I think that your implication is off the mark. I spent two weeks on the Infinity Feb 1-15 2015 and saw zero evidence that anybody was sick with anything. The crew were acting responsibly with respect to hand sanitizers, food was handled properly, etc. Relax and book a cruise.

[Gracie115]

Another non sanitizer person here. Why? Because I have eczema on my hands and anything with alcohol aggravates it. You would be more upset if you saw me using the tongs in the buffet with my hands covered with a nasty rash which is what would happen if I used the hand sanitizer. Even though it isn't contagious, another passenger would not know that. I wash my hands before meals and use a hand lotion made to help eczema sufferers. That is the best I can do, but I am not going to aggrevate a skin condition just to satisfy the optics of entering the dining room.

 

I have been criticized by other passengers and heard the snide comments from the people behind me. I used to try to explain, but it was a waste of time and energy. I would be delighted to use the sanitizer for no other reason than this.

 

Boy do I know how you feel.....I have same reaction to alcohol and other chemicals in the sanitizers and the glares and accusing stares from other passengers sure make you feel rotten..... people should take the time to consider what the issue is before you judge someone as "unclean"

[uktog]

Boy do I know how you feel.....I have same reaction to alcohol and other chemicals in the sanitizers and the glares and accusing stares from other passengers sure make you feel rotten..... people should take the time to consider what the issue is before you judge someone as "unclean"

 

thank you - thank you - thank you

[Straughn]

Boy do I know how you feel.....I have same reaction to alcohol and other chemicals in the sanitizers and the glares and accusing stares from other passengers sure make you feel rotten..... people should take the time to consider what the issue is before you judge someone as "unclean"

 

I put this issue in the same category as using a handicapped parking space. Just because an individual using that space doesn't have a wheelchair, walker, cane or crutches doesn't mean they don't have a health issue that allows them to park there. As an outside observer, you may not have the whole story and that applies to many of the folks who walk past the hand sanitizer without stopping.

Edited February 25, 2015 by Straughn