Wow but not in a good way

[Milwaukee Eight]

Serenade had PC and D+ in front row.

 

 

Suites in second and third.

 

 

No Star Class, obviously.

 

 

 

 

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Wasn't this in the Balcony on Serenade? Didn't pertain to main floor seating. So those were first come first serve??

 

 

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[Milwaukee Eight]

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We can play ping pong all day

 

But above the image it says 5mins

 

Or have overdosed on my meds

 

 

 

I actually side with the PompeySailor on this. We must enjoy the same Meds.

 

 

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[DirtyDawg]

I actually side with the PompeySailor on this. We must enjoy the same Meds.

 

 

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Funny, I just read the beginning of this thread and I think time4u2go is reading the OP's post correctly. But I also think the OP should fire his/her editor because the whole thing isn't totally clear. Maybe the editor was too busy in Star Class. :D

[Milwaukee Eight]

Funny, I just read the beginning of this thread and I think time4u2go is reading the OP's post correctly. But I also think the OP should fire his/her editor because the whole thing isn't totally clear. Maybe the editor was too busy in Star Class. :D

 

Agree... it was unclear...

[N2DFIRE]

Only people consumed with jealousy will have a probably with the reserved seats on a luxury cruise. The rest of us don't care. If I walk by a Ferrari 488 I think, "good for them. Probably lots of fun to drive." If you are on a cruise you are already better off than most people on our planet.

 

AMEN!!!!

 

If you want better things, go work, save and invest for them. It's that simple, nobody is stopping you from doing the same thing.

[legaljen1969]

.... first class on airplanes has been around for a VERY long time. It wasn't just implemented.

 

And if First Class on airplanes were a newly implemented thing? What's the difference? If you pay for first class/premium perks, you get first class/premium perks.

 

At least seats open up close to show time on ships. Unused seats in first class don't get opened up for economy class on planes.

[legaljen1969]

but those perks should NEVER be lorded over other people /should NEVER make other cruisers feel as if they're second-class citizens. It's an unfair perk.

 

Fair is a place where you get corn dogs and funnel cakes.

 

For goodness sakes, I have never seen anyone "lord" perks over others. I have seen plenty of envious people on cruise ships. Plenty of entitled people can't understand why, even if they paid for the cheapest inside cabin, they aren't getting the perks of the most expensive stateroom on the ships.

 

As we can all tell, ships are a for profit operation. They are not a socialist commune.

 

 

Why people feel so "unfairly" treated because they can't sit in certain seats is beyond me. If you pay to sit in the "good seats" then you can sit there. If not, sit in the darn "cheap seats" like the rest of us and do your best to enjoy the show. You aren't at work. You don't have to get home to pay the sitter. You can get booze during the show to kill the angst of not being able to sit in the "good seats."

 

It's pay for play. That's the name of the game. If it's that important to you to sit in those seats, then save up the money and pay for the perk.

[LMaxwell]

 

It's pay for play. That's the name of the game.

 

I guess one way to describe it is in the past there used to be less stratification and things were more egalitarian. But I guess they could be as prices were higher as well, so a "standard" was held high. Now a "standard" just means base and there are more options to pay for. I do not know when you started cruising, but if more than 10 or 15 years ago you may catch my drift.

[time4u2go]

And if First Class on airplanes were a newly implemented thing? What's the difference? If you pay for first class/premium perks, you get first class/premium perks.

 

At least seats open up close to show time on ships. Unused seats in first class don't get opened up for economy class on planes.

Actually they often are offered to economy class passengers that are very loyal to the airline. It's just done discretely, and it's a fairly infrequent occurrence to have an empty first class seat.

[legaljen1969]

Now a "standard" just means base and there are more options to pay for. I do not know when you started cruising, but if more than 10 or 15 years ago you may catch my drift.

 

Oh yes, I do know what you mean. Now you get less for the "base" and have to pay for things that were once standard. Now you have to pay premium prices to get "good" when some things with base are mediocre, when it used to be "good" was standard and "outstanding" was premium.

 

Even 10-15 years ago, those willing to pay for suites and special things got some extra perks- even if it was just a larger stateroom.

 

I can tell you that this happy cruiser will never double her loyalty points by staying in suites, as the price of that option is now out of my spending bracket. It's all in picking and choosing. I could pay for a suite or more expensive stateroom and enjoy that, but forgo the premium dining and/or beverage package.

 

 

Point being, if you can afford it and you want it- go for it. I am really plenty happy in an OV or regular balcony room sailing on the sea relaxing away from work. I could be happy in the MDR and Windjammer. The only thing "extra" I really spend my money on is a drink package. I don't drink much at home at all, but when I don't have to drive and I can be lazy on the ship- I may try a few things I wouldn't ordinarily do at home. Oh, and occasionally I will spend for an excursion if something really appeals to me.

[NIATPAC29]

Stop the wealth Envy. Be glad your parents paid for a cruise for you

 

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[John&LaLa]

And of course that is your opinion and you are most definitely entitled to it.

My opinion is I think the reserved seats are a great perk and one of the reasons I sail in suites. I especially like the reserved seats by the pool stairs on the Freedom class. Another perk I enjoy is the ability to have breakfast in chops.

 

To me I am almost opposite to your view. I don't sail in a suite so much for the room, More for the benefits and perks i receive outside the room.

You may be mistaken. Pool stair seating is a perk of Voyager not Freedom

 

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[John&LaLa]

Wasn't this in the Balcony on Serenade? Didn't pertain to main floor seating. So those were first come first serve??

 

 

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Correct, this is balcony

 

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[Big_G]

You may be mistaken. Pool stair seating is a perk of Voyager not Freedom

 

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That depends on when they cruised and what ship. Tier seating was reserved on Liberty back in 2009 and Independence in 2015 but always on top of the Sky Bar on all our Freedom cruises.

[John&LaLa]

That depends on when they cruised and what ship. Tier seating was reserved on Liberty back in 2009 and Independence in 2015 but always on top of the Sky Bar on all our Freedom cruises.

Never did Liberty, every trip on Indy or Freedom had always been above Sky Bar

 

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[molsonschooner]

You know, from my very first cruise, to now around 30, I never once felt pushed to do something, or discriminated against because of what ever category I was at the time. Now, at diamond plus, and after spending tens of thousands of dollars to RCI for my cruises, I don't feel that a few perks tossed my way is such a terrible way to treat a loyal customer.

 

 

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I am only platinum but I do understand what you are saying. For sure, the more you cruise you should get a few more perks. Our DS and DIL will be in a Star class suite next month. They payed thousands more than I would be willing to pay and because of that they should get these extra perks.

[Clarea]

Never did Liberty, every trip on Indy or Freedom had always been above Sky Bar

Same on our two cruises on LB.

[lucymorgan]

Why do you feel that paying for an expensive room should give perks beyond that room?

 

 

Probably because the seller advertised those perks as part of what you're paying for??

 

 

Yes!

 

If I fly business or first class and/or have high status with an airline, I would get lots of perks unrelated to my seat on the plane including lounge access, additional baggage allowance, priority help if things go wrong, etc.

 

I don't really understand why someone would complain about others getting more perks because they paid for them; especially if they get upset about it and let it put a dampener on the special trip that their parents have paid for.

[Paulxyz2004]

Why people feel so "unfairly" treated because they can't sit in certain seats is beyond me. If you pay to sit in the "good seats" then you can sit there. If not, sit in the darn "cheap seats" like the rest of us and do your best to enjoy the show. You aren't at work. You don't have to get home to pay the sitter. You can get booze during the show to kill the angst of not being able to sit in the "good seats."

 

It's pay for play. That's the name of the game. If it's that important to you to sit in those seats, then save up the money and pay for the perk.

 

Yes!

 

If I fly business or first class and/or have high status with an airline, I would get lots of perks unrelated to my seat on the plane including lounge access, additional baggage allowance, priority help if things go wrong, etc.

 

I don't really understand why someone would complain about others getting more perks because they paid for them; especially if they get upset about it and let it put a dampener on the special trip that their parents have paid for.

 

I think a lot of the anger, epecially on CC, is a result of some sort of feeling entitled. Next to changes in mass market cruising, IMO a lot has to do with the loyalty programms, especially Crown & Anchor.

 

In the past on RCI the best perks onboard were given to top level C&A members. You could not buy into them with staying in a suite. Everytime they started some sort of suite perk it was quickly extended to their top tier C&A members, like CL access. In the more recent past RCI has decided to up their game in regards to suites and while C&A members still get some of it, there is things they won´t get without staying in a suite. We all know the outcry about nanning D´s from CL after inventing a DL and finally moving from CL to SL and with this eliminating CL access from D+.

 

 

Certainly the game has changed from best perks for C&A to best perks for suites. This causes anger and envy, especially from some frequent cruisers.

[grapau27]

Actually they often are offered to economy class passengers that are very loyal to the airline. It's just done discretely, and it's a fairly infrequent occurrence to have an empty first class seat.

They might be offered at a cheaper price but not for free in the UK.

 

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[grapau27]

Oh yes, I do know what you mean. Now you get less for the "base" and have to pay for things that were once standard. Now you have to pay premium prices to get "good" when some things with base are mediocre, when it used to be "good" was standard and "outstanding" was premium.

 

Even 10-15 years ago, those willing to pay for suites and special things got some extra perks- even if it was just a larger stateroom.

 

I can tell you that this happy cruiser will never double her loyalty points by staying in suites, as the price of that option is now out of my spending bracket. It's all in picking and choosing. I could pay for a suite or more expensive stateroom and enjoy that, but forgo the premium dining and/or beverage package.

 

 

Point being, if you can afford it and you want it- go for it. I am really plenty happy in an OV or regular balcony room sailing on the sea relaxing away from work. I could be happy in the MDR and Windjammer. The only thing "extra" I really spend my money on is a drink package. I don't drink much at home at all, but when I don't have to drive and I can be lazy on the ship- I may try a few things I wouldn't ordinarily do at home. Oh, and occasionally I will spend for an excursion if something really appeals to me.

Your views are in line with most of us.We get a balcony or JS everytime but don't think paying double the price for a full suite is worth it.

 

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[grapau27]

You may be mistaken. Pool stair seating is a perk of Voyager not Freedom

 

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We were on Freedom 4-11 June and the sunbathing area below pool bar on the stairs was roped off for suite passengers but very few people were using it.

 

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[grapau27]

Yes!

 

If I fly business or first class and/or have high status with an airline, I would get lots of perks unrelated to my seat on the plane including lounge access, additional baggage allowance, priority help if things go wrong, etc.

 

I don't really understand why someone would complain about others getting more perks because they paid for them; especially if they get upset about it and let it put a dampener on the special trip that their parents have paid for.

If you pay for business,first class flights or suites on ships you deserve all the perks so i can't understand why when people don't they moan that they don't get them.Simple answer is pay for them and you get the perks or just enjoy what you have paid for.

 

Yes!

 

If I fly business or first class and/or have high status with an airline, I would get lots of perks unrelated to my seat on the plane including lounge access, additional baggage allowance, priority help if things go wrong, etc.

 

I don't really understand why someone would complain about others getting more perks because they paid for them; especially if they get upset about it and let it put a dampener on the special trip that their parents have paid for.

 

 

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[Wanna Be Retired]

I don't have a problem with the reserved seats. I do, however, have a problem with people saving rows of seats for friends and family. You see empty seats, sit down, and somebody stands up at the end of the row and is snarky and tells you this row is saved. The staff just took us to the reserved section and had us wait then told us we could have a seat. Funny thing, the held seats didn't all show up. Doesn't matter. I saw the show, had a good time, and went on my way. Lesson learned was get there earlier next time.

[grapau27]

I don't have a problem with the reserved seats. I do, however, have a problem with people saving rows of seats for friends and family. You see empty seats, sit down, and somebody stands up at the end of the row and is snarky and tells you this row is saved. The staff just took us to the reserved section and had us wait then told us we could have a seat. Funny thing, the held seats didn't all show up. Doesn't matter. I saw the show, had a good time, and went on my way. Lesson learned was get there earlier next time.

I agree and the crew need to stop the seat saving.

Usually there are plenty of seats and we are usually early if we particularly want to see the show which for us is the later show.

 

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