Vaping / Ecig question

[later]

15 hours ago, springfire said:

Nope!  

They are combination smoke/heat sensors and can put off the alarm on the bridge panel.  Shower water vapor has done it.  

 

The alarm does not go off in the room initially but does go off on the bridge and they will send someone down to the room to verify what is causing the alarm.

 

I find the bridge fire panel very interesting. My background is as a safety and environmental engineer. 

 

[LMaxwell]

Whether you smoke cigarettes, cigars, or vape (flavor, nicotine, etc.) please just be courteous enough to do it in designated areas.  I've, many times, had to ask smokers not to blow smoke in my kids face and gotten nasty responses.  Royal did absolutely nothing about it even though we were at the family pool in a  non-smoking area.  Thanks for all the extra OBC and sorry (no I'm not) about taking off my service charges, but if I'm in a non-smoking area I have an expectation of not having smoke blown in my face or my child.  

 

I don't go into smoking areas and wave my hands or do the "cough".  But Vaping is also intrusive on personal space.  I vaped to stop smoking cigarettes.  I never felt like I could use it in areas where cigarette smoke wasn't allowed.  I see people vape all the time in stores.  No one does anything to them. 

[springfire]

1 minute ago, later said:

They are combination smoke/heat sensors and can put off the alarm on the bridge panel.  Shower water vapor has done it.  

 

The alarm does not go off in the room initially but does go off on the bridge and they will send someone down to the room to verify what is causing the alarm.

 

I find the bridge fire panel very interesting. My background is as a safety and environmental engineer. 

 

Sorry but I have seen several people vape in their room, it does not set off the alarm.  

[later]

23 minutes ago, springfire said:

Sorry but I have seen several people vape in their room, it does not set off the alarm.  

My point was water vapor can put off the alarm if the heat level is reached at the sensor.  

[OCruisers]

17 hours ago, nascarcruiser said:

Since it is regulated like cigarretes, maybe try nicotine gum for the trip.  My DH had a heart attack a few years ago and while he still chews the nicotine gum his doctor feels for him it's the best alternative. 

 

It's getting tobacco smoke into the lungs that's the problem ... not the nicotine, which while addictive, isn't a major concern.  

Many common foods contain nicotine such as tomatoes, potatoes, eggplants, peppers, etc.  

[jstraw20]

While sitting under the detector and blowing clouds will probably set the alarms off, a little stealth vaping away from the detector won't.

[proggieus]

On 3/1/2019 at 1:41 PM, BND said:

You mean other than the e-cigs that have exploded?  And, they do not know the health hazards yet from vaping.  It's being studied, but there are chemicals involved.  Methinks you're a smoker and a defensive one at that.

 

, power strips aren't allowed onboard.  And, yes, vaping does leave an odor.  

considering the main ingredient in the liquids is FDA approved and has been used in asthma medications since the 50's. i would imagine that the heath risks are somewhat understood.

[gatour]

On 3/1/2019 at 4:28 PM, mac66 said:

I have never smoked or vaped but I have numerous friends and relatives who have gotten off of cigarettes and ended their nicotine addiction by vaping. Gradually cutting down on the concentration of nicotine.  I encourage everyone I know who smokes to switch to vaping. 

 

If it was up to me all ships would be 100% smoke free. Having said that I believe that vaping is a safe alternative to smoking and far less offensive. I would be in favor of the ships promoting the use of vaping instead of smoking. In fact they should offer seminars and sell vaping devices.

 

The knock against vaping is being perpetrated by the tobacco industry as a way to snuff out competition. Vaporizers shouldn't even be called e-cigarettes. They have nothing in common with cigarettes, they are vaporizers.   

 

And no, I don't use of sell vaping devices either.

Altria just bought 35% for 35 Billion dollars of Juul *a major vaping company) somehow I don't think they did this to snuff (was the pun intended?) out competition.

 

I think vaping has its place, but should be treated like cigarettes.

 

Contrary the insistance of others, it is just not "water vapor".  You are putting unregulated chemicals in your body and the bodies of others.  Think of the red dye food coloring issues that happened several decades ago.

[mac66]

33 minutes ago, proggieus said:

considering the main ingredient in the liquids is FDA approved and has been used in asthma medications since the 50's. i would imagine that the heath risks are somewhat understood.

 

Yeah this....^^^^^^

 

 vaping may not be 100% safe (yet to be proven otherwise) but it is a much safer alternative to smoking.

[gerif]

6 minutes ago, mac66 said:

 

 

 vaping may not be 100% safe (yet to be proven otherwise) but it is a much safer alternative to smoking.

Until further studies are completed, I’m going to agree with you here. My issue is why should I be subjected to either? Smokers and vapers need to follow the same rules. 

[Ocean Boy]

How is it that people feel everyone should follow a suggested dress code but it is ok to vape in your cabin where there is an actual rule against it?

[Clarea]

8 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

How is it that people feel everyone should follow a suggested dress code but it is ok to vape in your cabin where there is an actual rule against it?

 

Rules are for other people.

[NavyCruiser]

I'm a Vegan.  I think all cruise ships should be 100% meat-free.

 

I'm a Non-Drinker.  I think all cruise ships should be 100% alcohol-free.

 

I'm a recovering Gambler.  I think all cruise ships should be 100% casino-free.

 

I'm a Non-Smoker & live an All-Organic lifestyle.  I think all cruise ships should allow 100% organic marijuana smoking only, since all other forms of smoking contains chemical & just Yucky...

 

Guess I'll won't be cruising anytime soon then...  🙂

[Ocean Boy]

23 hours ago, cb at sea said:

While they say "no vaping" in the cabin, no one will know unless they see you doing it.  Vape vapor dissipates quickly and very few leave a lingering scent.....

 

It's certainly NOT as bad as cigarettes...and it's not harming anyone else.   Just don't do it in public spaces unless you're in a smoking area. In your cabin, no one will ever know.  Notice I didn't say to vape on the balcony, as someone will report it.

 

 

49 minutes ago, Host Clarea said:

 

Rules are for other people.

CB says I can do it.

[Clarea]

3 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

 

CB says I can do it.

 

Well then, I stand corrected.

[Ocean Boy]

6 minutes ago, Host Clarea said:

 

Well then, I stand corrected.

However, vaping and sun tanning at the same time might be an issue.

[OCruisers]

1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said:

 

CB says I can do it.

Yes, that because CB  (Caribbean Princess) is a Princess ship. 

Thing is ... this is the the RCCL forum where no fuming is allowed in cabins.

Happily, Princess allows people to fume in cabins!  

 

[BND]

3 hours ago, proggieus said:

considering the main ingredient in the liquids is FDA approved and has been used in asthma medications since the 50's. i would imagine that the heath risks are somewhat understood.

Well, I guess you are more informed than John's Hopkins.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/healthy_heart/know_your_risks/5-truths-you-need-to-know-about-vaping

 

[ReneeFLL]

Take video or photos to security and they can do something.

[proggieus]

16 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

What an asinine statement 

  

Propylene glycol, the primary ingredient in the electronic cigarette cartridge, may be a powerful deterrent against pneumonia, influenza, and other respiratory diseases when vaporized and inhaled according to a study by Dr. Oswald Hope Robertson. Decades before the e cigarette was invented, a study was conducted by Dr. Robertson of the University of Chicago's Billings Hospital in 1942 on inhalation of vaporized propylene glycol in laboratory mice. A more in-depth article was printed in the 1942 issue of TIME Magazine

 

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20091104/Propylene-glycol-in-e-cigarettes-might-keep-us-healthy-says-researchers.aspx

[springfire]

59 minutes ago, OCruisers said:

Yes, that because CB  (Caribbean Princess) is a Princess ship. 

Thing is ... this is the the RCCL forum where no fuming is allowed in cabins.

Happily, Princess allows people to fume in cabins!  

 

RCCL has no idea what is happening in the cabins when the doors are closed.  

[cruisegirl1]

1 hour ago, OCruisers said:

Yes, that because CB  (Caribbean Princess) is a Princess ship. 

Thing is ... this is the the RCCL forum where no fuming is allowed in cabins.

Happily, Princess allows people to fume in cabins!  

 

I suspect they were referring to a different CB, not princess cruise line. 

M

[OCruisers]

57 minutes ago, cruisegirl1 said:

I suspect they were referring to a different CB, not princess cruise line. 

M

 

Not being ugly ... just wanting to know ... what is a different CB?   

[BND]

1 minute ago, OCruisers said:

 

Not being ugly ... just wanting to know ... what is a different CB?   

A certain poster who is known to not provide accurate info and never, ever comes back to a thread to answer to anything they have said.  Just posts for a large post count.

[ONECRUISER]

1 hour ago, springfire said:

RCCL has no idea what is happening in the cabins when the doors are closed.  

Someone in Cabin next to me was Vaping first day of 11niter in Nov. Made a call, Security went to their room and they stopped for rest of Cruise. I have sensitive nose, can smell a pilot lite out 3 houses down