MichellePerth Posted January 10, 2020 #2476 Share Posted January 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said: 3 phases for China, they must be planning something big with Wonder.. I’d be more inclined to think they want to see how things go in Hong Kong. Not specifically for Hong Kong but the willingness of mainlanders to travel to Hong Kong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted January 10, 2020 #2477 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, MichellePerth said: I’d be more inclined to think they want to see how things go in Hong Kong. Not specifically for Hong Kong but the willingness of mainlanders to travel to Hong Kong. Did they not think after that extended duration of protests, it would be better to pull out then to leave a ship there on rocky demand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvinthecruiselife Posted January 10, 2020 #2478 Share Posted January 10, 2020 55 minutes ago, MichellePerth said: Care to share what the pricing is like? We booked a JS aft on deck 10, on the end (only 2). Smaller JS in the middle for 5000 Shelley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighthousemom Posted January 10, 2020 #2479 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Oops, I posted Odyssey as Oct 28-Nov 5. it's actually Oct 28-Nov 11. Sorry about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichellePerth Posted January 10, 2020 #2480 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 6/1/2019 at 4:02 PM, SMT21 said: Thanks for the reassurance. We’ve reserved a luggage store via bagbnb as suggested by another commenter so will get off ship early and do what we can. Loving all the excellent advice on this forum. Much appreciated.👍 On 1/3/2019 at 7:25 AM, ilikeanswers said: Good on Cathay Pacific👍. They probably don't have to but it is nice they are honouring the prices👏. In Australia local companies have no choice but to honour price mistakes, you can't even subvert it with your own terms and conditions otherwise you get a massive fine. There was a budget airline that once tried to charge the difference on a price mistake and got into a lot of trouble😕. It probably is why we rarely see price mistakes in the first place, a lot of tripple checking I suspect going on 🤣. 20 minutes ago, Wine-O said: We're booked on Harmony 31 Oct 2021 TA as well as the 24 Oct 2021 Med cruise before. This will be our first time on a "Big Boy" as we normally take the smaller ships across the pond. Looking forward to meeting you. 🍷 At the moment I’m booked on the 21/10 out of Barcelona, the 28/10 out of rome or Venice and possibly the one after the TA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichellePerth Posted January 10, 2020 #2481 Share Posted January 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ethanol95 said: Did they not think after that extended duration of protests, it would be better to pull out then to leave a ship there on rocky demand? I don’t know what their logic is, but I’d think they’d want more time. They need to negotiate new ports and shore excursions if they abandon Hong Kong. quite possibly they want to delay a lot of the China itineraries on wonder because they don’t know when she will be launched or if they will go straight there. quite possibly they want to see what happens in the Middle East before booking a Suez Canal voyage. What a ripper it would be if they decided to take her around the other way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichellePerth Posted January 10, 2020 #2482 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, MichellePerth said: At the moment I’m booked on the 21/10 out of Barcelona, the 28/10 out of rome or Venice and possibly the one after the TA as well. And I’m on the 17 April 2021 TA in odyssey anyway. I have only been on one oasis class ship and it only had one sea day, so I’m looking forward to 12 unfettered lazy sea days with nothing to do but amuse myself with the rants of fellow passengers about suite people being snooty, pinnacle people being cheap, solo passengers not really deserving top cruiser awards, arguing about access to coastal kitchen, and all the other associated blasts and put downs that the lounges will devolve into. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 10, 2020 #2483 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, MichellePerth said: And I’m on the 17 April 2021 TA in odyssey anyway. I have only been on one oasis class ship and it only had one sea day, so I’m looking forward to 12 unfettered lazy sea days with nothing to do but amuse myself with the rants of fellow passengers about suite people being snooty, pinnacle people being cheap, solo passengers not really deserving top cruiser awards, arguing about access to coastal kitchen, and all the other associated blasts and put downs that the lounges will devolve into. 😂 The spring Allure TA this year is around $699 We have 11 sea days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted January 10, 2020 #2484 Share Posted January 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, MichellePerth said: I don’t know what their logic is, but I’d think they’d want more time. They need to negotiate new ports and shore excursions if they abandon Hong Kong. quite possibly they want to delay a lot of the China itineraries on wonder because they don’t know when she will be launched or if they will go straight there. quite possibly they want to see what happens in the Middle East before booking a Suez Canal voyage. What a ripper it would be if they decided to take her around the other way! I would assume that time is money in their eyes. I don't think negotiating new ports and shore excursions would take a considerable amount of time. Maybe they are seeing how Wonder would fit into and work in this mess. Around the horn? That would be a new sight for an Oasis Class ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted January 10, 2020 #2485 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, MichellePerth said: At the moment I’m booked on the 21/10 out of Barcelona, the 28/10 out of rome or Venice and possibly the one after the TA as well. Sounds like you have a nice cruise there🤗, just curious is there a particular reason you quoted me in your post? It just seems a little out of place in your post and I just want to make sure you weren't trying to ask me something . Happy to help if I can😉. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted January 10, 2020 #2486 Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Ethanol95 said: 3 phases for China, they must be planning something big with Wonder.. And separate date for Singapore.... would love some year round cruises from there up to Thailand and Myanmar...🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted January 10, 2020 #2487 Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Interesting that these choices weren't available to those of us booked on the Nov 26 Suez Canal, and the following Arabian Coastal. Not surprising, though.😥 Anybody have the Michael Bayley email address. Might as well ask him ,mbayley@rccl.com, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ethanol95 Posted January 10, 2020 #2488 Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, little britain said: And separate date for Singapore.... would love some year round cruises from there up to Thailand and Myanmar...🤞 And to places like Bali or Christmas Island! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Petroplex Posted January 10, 2020 #2489 Share Posted January 10, 2020 13 hours ago, springaussie said: Updated Dates Week of February 24, 2020 China – Phase 2 Week of March 2, 2020 Short Caribbean Week of March 16. 2020 Australia Week of March 23, 2020 China – Phase 3 Week of March 30, 2020 Singapore & Transpacifics I am deeply curious about why this keeps getting delayed-- particularly the short Caribbean. There are only so many combinations which work. I just did a search for July 2021, and the following ships do not have any sailings assigned: Brilliance Explorer Grandeur Independence Mariner Navigator Quantum Spectrum Voyager If I was a betting man (which is perhaps the wrong phrase, because I *am* a betting man), I would peg the Quantum and the Spectrum for either China or Singapore. Something goes to Australia. That leaves 5(ish) ships to run short Caribbean routes out of the U.S. The Independence appears to be the largest of these ships. Looking at July 2020 bookings, I did a search for 2-5 day sailings. Those happen out of Baltimore, Fort Lauderdale, Vancouver, Galveston, Cape Liberty, Miami, and Orlando. If one assumes that 2-4 ships are going to Asia (including Australia), it looks like Royal will not run short Caribbean sailings out of some current ports. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichellePerth Posted January 10, 2020 #2490 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Petroplex said: I am deeply curious about why this keeps getting delayed-- particularly the short Caribbean. There are only so many combinations which work. I just did a search for July 2021, and the following ships do not have any sailings assigned: Brilliance Explorer Grandeur Independence Mariner Navigator Quantum Spectrum Voyager If I was a betting man (which is perhaps the wrong phrase, because I *am* a betting man), I would peg the Quantum and the Spectrum for either China or Singapore. Something goes to Australia. That leaves 5(ish) ships to run short Caribbean routes out of the U.S. The Independence appears to be the largest of these ships. Looking at July 2020 bookings, I did a search for 2-5 day sailings. Those happen out of Baltimore, Fort Lauderdale, Vancouver, Galveston, Cape Liberty, Miami, and Orlando. If one assumes that 2-4 ships are going to Asia (including Australia), it looks like Royal will not run short Caribbean sailings out of some current ports. Thoughts? You didn't mention wonder. Do you think asiia will have wonder, spectrum and quantum full time, plus voyager during the southern hemisphere winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Petroplex Posted January 10, 2020 #2491 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, MichellePerth said: You didn't mention wonder. Do you think asiia will have wonder, spectrum and quantum full time, plus voyager during the southern hemisphere winter? My bad. I pulled the list off of Royal Caribbean's website, and *I know better* than to trust that as a complete and accurate source of information. Apparently, the only ships listed are the ones already in service. That addition does significantly add to the capacity issues I was looking at. I spend a lot of time looking at the North American market with a particular focus on Galveston. My working assumption is that at least one unique ship would have to be tied to each of those phases. My second assumption is that this is at least the third scheduled they have announced for release dates. To me, that means something is unsettled about what Royal will do. That means they can't set a lot of other dominoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichellePerth Posted January 10, 2020 #2492 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Petroplex said: My bad. I pulled the list off of Royal Caribbean's website, and *I know better* than to trust that as a complete and accurate source of information. Apparently, the only ships listed are the ones already in service. That addition does significantly add to the capacity issues I was looking at. I spend a lot of time looking at the North American market with a particular focus on Galveston. My working assumption is that at least one unique ship would have to be tied to each of those phases. My second assumption is that this is at least the third scheduled they have announced for release dates. To me, that means something is unsettled about what Royal will do. That means they can't set a lot of other dominoes. You've put lots of thought into it. Hopefully they will send quantum to oz and run at least one ship year round from brisbane to that private island. We might even get more celebrity and azamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack McGowan Posted January 10, 2020 #2493 Share Posted January 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, Petroplex said: I am deeply curious about why this keeps getting delayed-- particularly the short Caribbean. There are only so many combinations which work. I just did a search for July 2021, and the following ships do not have any sailings assigned: Brilliance Explorer Grandeur Independence Mariner Navigator Quantum Spectrum Voyager If I was a betting man (which is perhaps the wrong phrase, because I *am* a betting man), I would peg the Quantum and the Spectrum for either China or Singapore. Something goes to Australia. That leaves 5(ish) ships to run short Caribbean routes out of the U.S. The Independence appears to be the largest of these ships. Looking at July 2020 bookings, I did a search for 2-5 day sailings. Those happen out of Baltimore, Fort Lauderdale, Vancouver, Galveston, Cape Liberty, Miami, and Orlando. If one assumes that 2-4 ships are going to Asia (including Australia), it looks like Royal will not run short Caribbean sailings out of some current ports. Thoughts? Don’t forget we already know where Navigator & Mariner are and what they are doing - just no dates / itineraries to book yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Petroplex Posted January 10, 2020 #2494 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jack McGowan said: Don’t forget we already know where Navigator & Mariner are and what they are doing - just no dates / itineraries to book yet Sadly, I have got lost in the thread. Where are they going, and how do we know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted January 10, 2020 #2495 Share Posted January 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Petroplex said: Sadly, I have got lost in the thread. Where are they going, and how do we know? They continue the same 3 and 4 night cruises they are currently doing as this is what they have been updated for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighthousemom Posted January 10, 2020 #2496 Share Posted January 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Ethanol95 said: I would assume that time is money in their eyes. I don't think negotiating new ports and shore excursions would take a considerable amount of time. Maybe they are seeing how Wonder would fit into and work in this mess. Around the horn? That would be a new sight for an Oasis Class ship! I'm going on Princess around the horn in a few weeks, but I might actually do it again if Wonder takes the long way around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 10, 2020 #2497 Share Posted January 10, 2020 A great deal of what is to come has been confirmed through press releases and port bookings. Here are the current predictions for deployment: Adventure - Galveston – TA- STO/CPH / revitalization / Caribbean / Galveston ??? Allure - Miami / PC / Galveston Anthem - Bayonne / Southampton / Bayonne Brilliance Tampa / Boston / Tampa Empress - Miami /Bayonne / San Juan Enchantment - Baltimore year round. Explorer - Miami / ???? Miami Freedom - Bayonne / San Juan Harmony - PC / Barcelona / PC Indy - PE year round (???) Jewel - Galveston /BCN / AMS NE /BI / BCN / Miami Liberty - Galveston until October / revitalization / Miami (3 and 4 day) Majesty - New Orleans year round Mariner - PC 3 / 4 night Navigator - Miami / PE (3 / 4 night) Oasis - PE / Bayonne / Miami Odyssey - PE / Rome / PE Ovation - Sydney / Seattle / Sydney Quantum - Beijing / Singapore (year round after move) Radiance - / AK one way Seward / Vancouver / HI / Brisbane Rhapsody - Tampa / Venice / Tampa Serenade - HI / Vancouver / ??? (PE) Spectrum - Shanghai / Beijing ??? Australia Symphony - Miami year round Vision - Port Everglades / BCN 12 night / Port Everglades Voyager - Sydney / ??? HI - / ??? Wonder – Southampton/BCN/Dubai/Shanghai (year round from arrival) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted January 10, 2020 #2498 Share Posted January 10, 2020 13 hours ago, MichellePerth said: And I’m on the 17 April 2021 TA in odyssey anyway. I have only been on one oasis class ship and it only had one sea day, so I’m looking forward to 12 unfettered lazy sea days with nothing to do but amuse myself with the rants of fellow passengers about suite people being snooty, pinnacle people being cheap, solo passengers not really deserving top cruiser awards, arguing about access to coastal kitchen, and all the other associated blasts and put downs that the lounges will devolve into. 😂 You certainly got an earful in the lounge on your Oasis class sailing, much more "interesting" than conversations I seem to get involved in. If I had to listen to topics like that, I might rethink going to the lounge at all.😮 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted January 10, 2020 #2499 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Royal Caribbean International today announced its China itineraries for the first half of 2021. The Spectrum of the Seas will sail from Shanghai on four- to seven-night sailings that feature new destinations. The newly amplified Voyager of the Seas will call Shanghai home during the summer 2021, sailing short cruises to Japan. They are expected to be joined by the new Oasis-class Wonder of the Seas, which debuts in spring 2021. The Spectrum will offer nearly 30 sailings to multiple destinations in Japan. The four- and five-night cruises can uncover adventure and beauty in new ports of call, from the romantic islands of Okinawa to white-sand beaches on the Yaeyama Islands. Week-long cruises include overnights. A highlight of the 2021 season will be a special sailing to experience some of Japan’s most famed cities, including Shimonoseki, Maizuru, Niigata and Hakodate (Hokkaido). Those cruising onboard Spectrum can also choose from a lineup of new shore excursions designed to enhance the destination experience, the company said. Cruise Industry News. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22231-royal-caribbean-announces-2021-shanghai-program-ups-capacity.html?fbclid=IwAR1z6ZJUhUQofKr7GLdDZ3ZvSUkomDwrZKWZvr3AaLezekgCFzAPVKTKb7k What about Los Angeles for Voyager July 2021? Or is it a misprint for 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogi21 Posted January 10, 2020 #2500 Share Posted January 10, 2020 As a matter of interest.....Is Odessey Quantum Ultra Class and not Oasis Class ?? 270 louge at rear and Wonder is stated as Oasis 5. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now