TheDougOut Posted October 3, 2019 #1 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Apparently as of January, 2020. A sad, sad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted October 3, 2019 #2 Share Posted October 3, 2019 OMG, nooooooooooooo!!! Andy Stuart, NCL CEO gone, steps down. Andy Stuart is (was) President and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) for Norwegian Cruise Line, appointed to this position in March 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonaitch Posted October 3, 2019 #3 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TheDougOut said: Apparently as of January, 2020. A sad, sad day. Retirement ? He'll lynch me for this but I'm guessing he's reached that age. Edited October 3, 2019 by simonaitch Addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gershep Posted October 3, 2019 #4 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Del Rio is going to sink the fleet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare justhappy Posted October 3, 2019 #5 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I’m worried too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted October 3, 2019 #6 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I think we should all be worried... I agree with Doug, very sad day 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LrgPizza Posted October 3, 2019 #7 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I'm surprised people on CC aren't rejoicing. The vast majority of the changes/policies/decisions made at NCL the past several years for which people complain about Frank Del Rio were actually made by Andy. I like the guy and hate to see him go. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMike45 Posted October 3, 2019 #8 Share Posted October 3, 2019 So what's the thinking...NCL starts following more of the international (Oceania) philosophies. Becomes less of the "fun" cruise line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDougOut Posted October 3, 2019 Author #9 Share Posted October 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, LrgPizza said: I'm surprised people on CC aren't rejoicing. The vast majority of the changes/policies/decisions made at NCL the past several years for which people complain about Frank Del Rio were actually made by Andy. I like the guy and hate to see him go. I don’t think anyone (here) knows where the less-than-favorable decisions were made. From my perspective, there was a distinct change in direction when Stuart started reporting to Del Rio in 2015. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Suite Heart Posted October 3, 2019 #10 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Does anyone know very much about Andy's successor Harry Sommer? I see that he is currently President: International of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd. Any other info? Edited October 3, 2019 by Suite Heart spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare justhappy Posted October 3, 2019 #11 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Just now, TheDougOut said: I don’t think anyone (here) knows where the less-than-favorable decisions were made. From my perspective, there was a distinct change in direction when Stuart started reporting to Del Rio in 2015. I agree. Let’s face it, Del Rio is a CPA, and all they look at is the bottom line, not guest satisfaction. Bean counters are the worst at taking the fun out of everything and making it all about profit. I know from personal experience! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare justhappy Posted October 3, 2019 #12 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Also the letter I received said he was “stepping down “, not “he’s retiring “. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joken35 Posted October 3, 2019 #13 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Things changed when Del Rio took over for Sheehan. Prices went up the free at sea became the norm not a special. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMike45 Posted October 3, 2019 #14 Share Posted October 3, 2019 maybe if we ignore it, it will go away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kjquilts Posted October 3, 2019 #15 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Here is link to the corporate press release https://www.ncl.com/press-releases/norwegian-cruise-line-holdings-announces-organizational-changes-ncl-brand Edited October 3, 2019 by kjquilts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willsears94 Posted October 3, 2019 #16 Share Posted October 3, 2019 57 minutes ago, TheDougOut said: I don’t think anyone (here) knows where the less-than-favorable decisions were made. From my perspective, there was a distinct change in direction when Stuart started reporting to Del Rio in 2015. This is the correct answer. I don't think NCL will completely go the route of Oceania. Certainly, they will do whatever is most profitable. I expect NCL to acquire a new cruise line in the next 5 years. Best wishes to Andy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted October 3, 2019 #17 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Harry Sommer is a nice guy too and longtime working in the company. Seeing him as successor is not a bad thing! steamboats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted October 3, 2019 #18 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Nowhere does it say “retirement” which indicates it might be forced. I hope not. Andy is a great guy and has been part of NCL for decades. He worked his way up and truly deserved to run NCL. I wish the announcement was about del Rio. I would have zero issues with him stepping down. Probably my least favorite CEO of any cruise company. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smplybcause Posted October 3, 2019 #19 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Any time a CEO changes in a company - things change. Depending on the CEO and the reason why they're now CEO the changes could be BIG changes to the customer facing aspects or you could barely notice a change because 99% of it is internal. Since the new president is in-house that usually indicates it will likely be less of the sweeping changes, but since he's coming from the parent company and not NCL there's good odds that the move is to make NCL more in line with the parent company ie more what Del Rio wants. I don't personally associate the cruises directly with whoever is the CEO, but I've also worked in business long enough to know that the CEO has a direct influence on the direction the company makes. It remains to be seen what direction Sommer with move it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted October 3, 2019 #20 Share Posted October 3, 2019 This is a stockholder owned and publicly traded company. It only has one purpose and that is to maximize profits. That's what it is about and why it exists. They offer the product by balancing what will sell best with what keeps expenses down, again to maximize profit. That's all it's about. And then we, the consumer, buy the product...or not...depending on how we perceive the value. It's not personal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff79 Posted October 3, 2019 #21 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) It think many decisions in the past was made by del rio, look at encore, the hull art, the race track was a decision by del rio. The only think what is sure, that del rio wants to make more money with Ncl ( that means that we have to pay more). In what way, we will see. I think more nickel and dime. The ncl with Kevin Sheehan was much more Sympathetic then under del rio now. Edited October 3, 2019 by Steff79 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrieBajan54 Posted October 3, 2019 #22 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 hours ago, TheDougOut said: Apparently as of January, 2020. A sad, sad day. . Why is it a sad day? All the nickle & diming and constantly raising the DSC was not a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrieBajan54 Posted October 3, 2019 #23 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Double post Edited October 3, 2019 by IrieBajan54 correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted October 3, 2019 #24 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 hours ago, justhappy said: No, of course I don’t. My concern is for the continuation of the policies of the leadership of the cruise line and the direction they seem to be leading the company in. Less free sundeck space in leu of pay to play laser tag venue is just one example. Raising cruise fares while delivering a less than perfect product is another. Based on this.... then you should be happy that Andy is stepping down because with him gone maybe the continuation and direction of the policies that deliver a less than perfect product have a chance to turn around.... it's not all FDR with Andy being a puppet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laszlo Posted October 3, 2019 #25 Share Posted October 3, 2019 He's been as long as NCL as I have been with my company. We both need a long deserved break Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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