Covid19 test

[pinkie60]

I’m sailing on the Norwegian Sky July 24th. I expect things should be straightened out by then. Does anyone think that Norwegian would require a negative covid19 test before you board. I know they are requiring anyone over 70 to have a doctors note but I’m wondering if they would go that far to check if the passengers are negative for the virus. 

[BirdTravels]

A test is good at the moment you take it. It says you are not actively infected. You can be exposed and incubating and get a negative test,,, then have full blown COVDID-19 when you are on your cruise. 

[lepidoptera]

Considering how hard it is to get testing kits for hospitals still I doubt that there will be a 

few thousand per ship laying around to screen people going on cruises.

[susanf31]

No, absolutely not.  You could easily test negative because you are in the 2 week incubation period.  The tests also are not 100% accurate, so lots of false negatives and false positives are happening.  They aren't reliable and thinking that they are could lead to a ship-wide infectious catastrophe.

[Laszlo]

49 minutes ago, BirdTravels said:

A test is good at the moment you take it. It says you are not actively infected. You can be exposed and incubating and get a negative test,,, then have full blown COVDID-19 when you are on your cruise. 

Just one more good reason not to step on a cruise ship until they have a vaccine and most people have had it

[luc122]

I think the better approach is to only allow people who have tested for the antibody to board. Of course that’s only if we know for sure that it gives immunity ( which in theory it should, but who knows with this crazy virus. 

But then the cruise line would have to antibody test every crew member also.

 

[Turtles06]

1 hour ago, pinkie60 said:

I’m sailing on the Norwegian Sky July 24th. I expect things should be straightened out by then.

Straightened out by then?  Then I assume you mean July 24, 2021. 

[seaman11]

nope, the cost would be too great, and like others have said may not show up .  july looking good, despite the many pessimistic travelers. here.  carnival announced it would go ahead with limited cruises in may and june.  (sold out in 1 day) no reason to assume ncl wont follow suit. 

[ColeThornton]

3 hours ago, pinkie60 said:

I know they are requiring anyone over 70 to have a doctors note

 

Pretty sure that rule has been thrown out the window by now, it's useless.  Besides no doc in his right mind would issue that.

 

[latserrof]

1 hour ago, seaman11 said:

 carnival announced it would go ahead with limited cruises in may and june.  (sold out in 1 day)

What's your source for this????

 

According to CC editor, Carnival has announced:

"While Carnival had already temporarily suspended all sailings until May 11, the line has now closed inventory on select sailing dates across its fleet throughout May and June in order to provide better crew-to-passenger ratios as the line tries to get its staff and ships into a position to resume service....

""We anticipate that certain international travel restrictions will remain. We are taking a conservative approach with regard to getting our crews back to the ships, so we have closed inventory on certain sailings so that we don't overextend our ability to provide service on board."

 

CC editor also said that "While they have disappeared from Carnival's online booking engine, these capacity-controlled voyages remain visible in Carnival's online cruise personalizer for passengers who are already booked onboard. They are currently scheduled to operate at this time.

"New bookings are now closed to these capacity-restricted voyages, and most other sailings across the fleet, until the end of June."

 

So the way I read this, Carnival simply announced it has stopped selling most May-June cruises. It can still (and, I predict, will) cancel them all.

[mking8288]

Cruiselines (trains, motorcoaches and airlines, etc.) will have to figure out a solution to droplets precaution until folks developed immunity as recovered C19 survivors (the lucky 75 to 85+ percentiles) and/or an effective vaccine is proven protection against this highly contagious virus (and its mutated ones)  ...  Otherwise, it's not going to be fun (nor safe) to sail without wearing a mask around the clock and while out & about, i.e. lounging among the chair hogs, jamming the buffet lines and sitting in the packed Stardust Theater, elbows to elbows.

 

• An update from Dr. David Goldberg, an internist and infectious disease specialist at NewYork-Presbyterian medical groups, explains why social distancing is important in the fight against COVID-19.
• First, it’s important to understand how the coronavirus is spread:
• The coronavirus is spread by tiny respiratory droplets
• Droplets can even spread through breathing or talking—invisible to the naked eye
• Fortunately, research indicates that respiratory droplets do not travel more than 6 feet

All 3 major US legacy carriers are not expecting things to return to normal until sometime in 2021 - aircrafts and crews are being mothballed.  One B6 FA said this - https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/stop-flying-a-flight-attendant-with-covid-19-shares-a-viral-warning.html 

 

Sure, just dream on. 

 

[seaman11]

16 minutes ago, latserrof said:

What's your source for this????

 

According to CC editor, Carnival has announced:

"While Carnival had already temporarily suspended all sailings until May 11, the line has now closed inventory on select sailing dates across its fleet throughout May and June in order to provide better crew-to-passenger ratios as the line tries to get its staff and ships into a position to resume service....

""We anticipate that certain international travel restrictions will remain. We are taking a conservative approach with regard to getting our crews back to the ships, so we have closed inventory on certain sailings so that we don't overextend our ability to provide service on board."

 

CC editor also said that "While they have disappeared from Carnival's online booking engine, these capacity-controlled voyages remain visible in Carnival's online cruise personalizer for passengers who are already booked onboard. They are currently scheduled to operate at this time.

"New bookings are now closed to these capacity-restricted voyages, and most other sailings across the fleet, until the end of June."

 

So the way I read this, Carnival simply announced it has stopped selling most May-June cruises. It can still (and, I predict, will) cancel them all.

https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5259/

[pcakes122]

5 hours ago, BirdTravels said:

A test is good at the moment you take it. It says you are not actively infected. You can be exposed and incubating and get a negative test,,, then have full blown COVDID-19 when you are on your cruise. 

What is your source for this information or are you just guessing?

[roger001]

I cannot imagine a cruise operating in July, or even much later.  I posted this on another thread, but here is today's latest from Tennessee.  Until there is a cure, we will be in lock down.  

 

If the coronavirus in Tennessee continues to spread at its current rate, the viral outbreak will not peak until June and as many as 5,000 people will be hospitalized at once, according to new predictions from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine.

[Fartlek]

The cruise industry was one of the first to be impacted and I expect it will be the absolute very last to get going.  There is no way anyone is cruising this year.  A vaccine is needed first which is still 18 months away and I expect the cruises will start 6 months later.  Sometimes in 2022 is my prediction 

[gmbhardy]

31 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5259/

That’s a late April Fool’s joke.

[seaman11]

3 minutes ago, gmbhardy said:

That’s a late April Fool’s joke.

they are sold out  for may and june. , jokes on the pessimists 

[gmbhardy]

11 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

they are sold out  for may and june. , jokes on the pessimists 

They might be sold out but they’re not going anywhere.

[CroozFanatic]

13 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

they are sold out  for may and june. , jokes on the pessimists 

 

I'm sympathetic...I wanna cruise too Bro.  Don't you think they'll open the schools before they let people board ships?

[seaman11]

2 minutes ago, CroozFanatic said:

 

I'm sympathetic...I wanna cruise too Bro.  Don't you think they'll open the schools before they let people board ships?

nope, because its two different things. schools close in late may anyway. so that doesnt make sense to open for a few weeks or week. 

[yankees111]

4 hours ago, seaman11 said:

nope, because its two different things. schools close in late may anyway. so that doesnt make sense to open for a few weeks or week. 

I give you credit. At least you are consistent in your foolish belief that you will be cruising sometime before Labor Day 😂😂😂

[Jobeth66]

15 hours ago, seaman11 said:

nope, because its two different things. schools close in late may anyway. so that doesnt make sense to open for a few weeks or week. 

 

Not where I live - schools close in late June in most of the Northeast.  

[buckeyefrank]

21 hours ago, susanf31 said:

No, absolutely not.  You could easily test negative because you are in the 2 week incubation period.  The tests also are not 100% accurate, so lots of false negatives and false positives are happening.  They aren't reliable and thinking that they are could lead to a ship-wide infectious catastrophe.

During the 2 week incubation period you mention, people are projecting the virus back into the atmosphere and surfaces.  Each different test protocol is based on a certain amount of virus in the testing sample.  We have no idea how sensitive the 5 minute tests are and how long it would take to register positive from exposure.  According to what I have heard they are much more accurate than the longer duration tests.  No test is 100% accurate so that's never going to happen.

 

I personally believe the 5 minute tests to opening a large majority of the US economy.  I work in a nursing home and really think we will open up our doors once we can get the 5 minute testing.  We could test every person through the door.

[latserrof]

As noted earlier,  yesterday the CDC renewed/extended its No-Sail order:

 

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/No-Sail-Order-Cruise-Ships_Extension_4-9-20-encrypted.pdf

 

The report has some interesting info re: cruise ships and Covid-19.

 

Among other things, the report says "COVID-19 clusters and outbreaks continue to occur on and in connection with cruise ships."

 

And: "CDC is currently aware of 15 cruise ships at port or anchorage in the United States with known or suspected COVID-19 infection among the crew who remain onboard."

 

It also says the CLIA (main cruise-ship trade group) has proposed several steps to address Covid-19 on cruise ships, including:

 

“CLIA commits to making five ships available for temporary housing purposes. They would be tasked with sailing to any affected ship and taking affected guests and crew aboard for the self-isolation period.”

 

Does this inspire confidence in anyone hoping to cruise soon?

 

BTW, the CDC also says the CLIA's proposals are inadequate to allow sailing to resume.

[Trimone]

Hi Pinkie

 

I don’t think things will be straightened out before the end of the year.

 

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