Rare lyndarra Posted May 30, 2020 #101 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 minute ago, By The Bay said: Harvard Medical School said that COVID-19 can "survive up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard". Australia Post is not that quick.😉 I think I'll sleep a little better now, knowing that.🙃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted May 30, 2020 #102 Share Posted May 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, MMDown Under said: Yes, I would holiday in NZ, once the Trans Tasman Bubble is formed. Me too, have fingers, toes and eyes crossed 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinbadThePorter Posted May 30, 2020 #103 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MMDown Under said: I am a Queenslander, who appreciates our Premier making decisions, on advice from the Chief Health Officer, re reducing restrictions and opening up of our borders slowly. Well said. Our Premier should be listening to her own medical advisors, not pot stirrers in Canberra and Sydney. That said, things going well, I hope to visit either Cairns or Darwin before the end of winter. I don't ski, so a NZ winter holds no attractions. Edited May 30, 2020 by SinbadThePorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 30, 2020 #104 Share Posted May 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, By The Bay said: Harvard Medical School said that COVID-19 can "survive up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard". Australia Post is not that quick.😉 Today's Lesson - Don't touch any unwashed police. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banzaii Posted May 30, 2020 #105 Share Posted May 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: Today's Lesson - Don't touch any unwashed police. I'd also worry about those cardboard cut outs at the footy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 30, 2020 #106 Share Posted May 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, banzaii said: I'd also worry about those cardboard cut outs at the footy! For just $22 you too can get COVID 19 without actually going to the footy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 30, 2020 #107 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, SinbadThePorter said: Well said. Our Premier should be listening to her own medical advisors, not pot stirrers in Canberra and Sydney. That said, things going well, I hope to visit either Cairns or Darwin before the end of winter. I don't ski, so a NZ winter holds no attractions. Weatherwise, I can see myself visiting NT or NQ prior to NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 30, 2020 #108 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, MMDown Under said: Weatherwise, I can see myself visiting NT or NQ prior to NZ. I think anywhere is good to visit if you go at the right times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 30, 2020 #109 Share Posted May 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: I think anywhere is good to visit if you go at the right times. Yes, but some places are better than others, like the tropics in winter and NZ in summer. Unless you are a skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 30, 2020 #110 Share Posted May 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, MMDown Under said: Yes, but some places are better than others, like the tropics in winter and NZ in summer. Unless you are a skier. Not too comfortable doing it the other way around, Tropics in the summer and NZ in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Kruzer Posted May 30, 2020 Author #111 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Time to cool the hype on the trans-Tasman bubble The ANZLF reports that Kiwis made 1.4 million visits to Australia last year, while Australians made 1.5 million visits to New Zealand https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121659551/lets-pop-the-hype-on-the-transtasman-bubble 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 30, 2020 #112 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Interesting, I do like the fact the article starts by saying OPINION in big letters. I wish more papers and media started their articles like this to show that what they write is either journalistic reporting which has timelines and states facts (for both sides of the story) on the topic and letting people decide for themselves which way they want to go or an editorial / opinion piece which tends to direct people to a line of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted May 30, 2020 #113 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: Interesting, I do like the fact the article starts by saying OPINION in big letters. I wish more papers and media started their articles like this to show that what they write is either journalistic reporting which has timelines and states facts (for both sides of the story) on the topic and letting people decide for themselves which way they want to go or an editorial / opinion piece which tends to direct people to a line of thought. Agree, that was a very informative opinion article. Quite a contrast to the first on the Read More list of articles - "Coronavirus: Hopes to Get Trans Tasman Bubble flying by July". stuff.co.nz Edited May 30, 2020 by MMDown Under Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christodan Posted May 30, 2020 #114 Share Posted May 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Kiwi Kruzer said: The ANZLF reports that Kiwis made 1.4 million visits to Australia last year, while Australians made 1.5 million visits to New Zealand Well I can't see how last year will give us any indication of what this year will look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted May 31, 2020 #115 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I did hear that from the sad story of the 30 year old passing away in Qld that there was also a negative test. That was dismissed as being contaminated but if that's the case, then positive may also have been a false positive or likewise contaminated. The thing that makes me think it was not a true positive is the current fact that no one else has tested positive so far. And he did have significant comorbidities such as convulsions and was alone when he died. Anything may have happened and usually Covid breathing issues are detected long before subsequent passing. Our SA border is closed but the thing that currently is annoying is that the Vic statistics are always referred to as number of new cases each day, completely ignoring that approx half of these are from people in quarantine. The Australian criteria for the next stage, which is 10 new cases Australia wide, does not take such cases into account. We haven't had a true positive in weeks, over a month now (I'm going to wipe out that person from UK who arrived into SA as a positive having not completed 14 days iso in Vic) and the only other case was the guy who wasn't infectious and not symptomatic but had arrived from UK four weeks prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 31, 2020 #116 Share Posted May 31, 2020 If we (ACT) eliminate all the cases that we feel are not really ours, (came from elsewhere) we haven't had any at all. How lucky is that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker123 Posted May 31, 2020 #117 Share Posted May 31, 2020 When the daily numbers are announce in Victoria, there is also usually reference to the source. So they say if in quarantine or related to another identified outbreak. Interestingly, there have been about 5 quarantine hotel workers who have tested positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted May 31, 2020 #118 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, MicCanberra said: If we (ACT) eliminate all the cases that we feel are not really ours, (came from elsewhere) That could be said for all of Australia. The virus came from overseas first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 31, 2020 #119 Share Posted May 31, 2020 50 minutes ago, By The Bay said: That could be said for all of Australia. The virus came from overseas first. Yeah, exactly. Yet people are choosing which cases are valid or not, sometimes depending on where and when they got it and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted May 31, 2020 #120 Share Posted May 31, 2020 It seems Greece wants to bubble with Australia: Greece opens Covid-safe 'travel bubble' to Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted May 31, 2020 #121 Share Posted May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, ilikeanswers said: It seems Greece wants to bubble with Australia: Greece opens Covid-safe 'travel bubble' to Australia Will you look at the list of countries? One really stands out 🙄 Not a chance!! Anyway, I thought an ‘air-bridge’ was to countries where you could fly direct?🤔 That’s def not Greece ..... The 29 countries from which Greece will accept visitors as of June 15 are: Albania, Australia, Austria, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Germany, Denmark, Switzerland, Estonia, Japan, Israel, China, Croatia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lebanon, New Zealand, Lithuania, Malta, Montenegro, Norway, South Korea, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Czech Republic and Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted May 31, 2020 #122 Share Posted May 31, 2020 You can see why our governments want to restrict travel. All you need is one weak link in the chain and it breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted May 31, 2020 #123 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) How true! Much prefer the look of a NZ/Aus bubble Edited May 31, 2020 by Porky55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 31, 2020 #124 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Yeah, small steps first, then expand slowly and selectively (country record on Covid) rather than economic benefit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker123 Posted May 31, 2020 #125 Share Posted May 31, 2020 There had also been an approach from Israel to have a travel bubble with Australia. Govt has said current focus only with NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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