Bingotommy Posted August 6, 2020 #1 Share Posted August 6, 2020 How long do you think it will take carnival to get enough people back to staff the ships. Also they will have to bring production people in to set up the shows. Magician for the clubs and people for all the other areas. I estimate it would take at least 2 months. Hope I’m wrong and someone can tell me that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerman2 Posted August 6, 2020 #2 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Chengkp75 has said it would take 4-6 weeks to completely staff/ provision the ship. That's coming from someone who has worked on NCL as a chief engineer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted August 6, 2020 #3 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Bingotommy said: How long do you think it will take carnival to get enough people back to staff the ships. Also they will have to bring production people in to set up the shows. Magician for the clubs and people for all the other areas. I estimate it would take at least 2 months. Hope I’m wrong and someone can tell me that. Considering it is likely cruises from the US won’t be resuming for a long time, I don’t think staffing the ships is going to be a significant issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaveWeMetYet Posted August 6, 2020 #4 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 hours ago, beerman2 said: Chengkp75 has said it would take 4-6 weeks to completely staff/ provision the ship. That's coming from someone who has worked on NCL as a chief engineer. I don't think they can get all the ships staffed back up in 4-6 weeks. There has probably been a lot of crew that have left the company and found other jobs. They have quite a chore to get people hired, trained, and sent to the ships. A big expense also. Probably going to be a lot of work to get one ship ready that fast. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave0311 Posted August 6, 2020 #5 Share Posted August 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, HaveWeMetYet said: I don't think they can get all the ships staffed back up in 4-6 weeks. There has probably been a lot of crew that have left the company and found other jobs. They have quite a chore to get people hired, trained, and sent to the ships. A big expense also. Probably going to be a lot of work to get one ship ready that fast. Not to mention that the other cruise lines will probably be hiring around the same time, so they'll all be competing for workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerman2 Posted August 6, 2020 #6 Share Posted August 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, HaveWeMetYet said: I don't think they can get all the ships staffed back up in 4-6 weeks. There has probably been a lot of crew that have left the company and found other jobs. They have quite a chore to get people hired, trained, and sent to the ships. A big expense also. Probably going to be a lot of work to get one ship ready that fast. Yep Those are “normal “ conditions. Plus with many Philippines working on cruise ship and the recent outbreak in Norway on a ship, how many will be available. Without knowing a start date , workers will have to quarantine 14 days once they get to the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ninjacat123 Posted August 6, 2020 #7 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I would think that the entertainment people would be happy to resume work on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted August 6, 2020 #8 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Hmmmm, how many ships was Carnival foing to start with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfaaborg Posted August 6, 2020 #9 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I hope they can get the Miracle in San Diego ready for Nov 5th. Heck, I'm OK if they can't even stop in Mexico, just want to get on the water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted August 6, 2020 #10 Share Posted August 6, 2020 With numbers of passengers limited, a full crew won't be needed and I would expect some services to be limited as well. Many positions are not highly skilled - how hard is it to be a bacon server? Ships routinely turnover staff when contracts end. They have experience in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfaaborg Posted August 6, 2020 #11 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I don't know. I am particular about my bacon 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Honolulu Blue Posted August 6, 2020 #12 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said: Hmmmm, how many ships was Carnival foing to start with? That's the $10 billion question. Two or three action plans ago, they planned to start with 8 ships from three different U.S. ports. My best guess (no better than anyone else's, of course) is that they won't start with that many when they're allowed to go - either because of CDC mandates or an abundance of caution. The fewer ships they start with, the quicker it will be to staff them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrounds Posted August 6, 2020 #13 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Honolulu Blue said: That's the $10 billion question. Two or three action plans ago, they planned to start with 8 ships from three different U.S. ports. My best guess (no better than anyone else's, of course) is that they won't start with that many when they're allowed to go - either because of CDC mandates or an abundance of caution. The fewer ships they start with, the quicker it will be to staff them. Also with an abundance of caution for if this all falls down and goes boom they'll have less guests to find a port to debark in and less private planes to hire to haul everyone home for the quarantine. Too soon, too many ships, could be disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaman11 Posted August 6, 2020 #14 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) They wont need to get all the ships staff ready at once, as they will be starting very slowly. germany got the staff for a ship in a few weeks. I dont think thats a major problem, they will likely have months to prepare before going. Edited August 6, 2020 by seaman11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 6, 2020 #15 Share Posted August 6, 2020 8 hours ago, HaveWeMetYet said: I don't think they can get all the ships staffed back up in 4-6 weeks. There has probably been a lot of crew that have left the company and found other jobs. They have quite a chore to get people hired, trained, and sent to the ships. A big expense also. Probably going to be a lot of work to get one ship ready that fast. Never said they could crew up "all the ships" in 4-6 weeks, but that is the timeframe for any given ship, and they will not be crewing all the ships at once, trust me. The crew "leave the company" each time they end a contract. Most crew prefer to work on the ships, either because the wage is higher than any other job they could get at home, or because there are no jobs at home. And, most of the crew are used to not being paid during the time they are off the ship, having saved up from the onboard wages, so they have been waiting for their preferred jobs, rather than finding new jobs. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdale Posted August 7, 2020 #16 Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 hours ago, seaman11 said: They wont need to get all the ships staff ready at once, as they will be starting very slowly. germany got the staff for a ship in a few weeks. I dont think thats a major problem, they will likely have months to prepare before going. I guess a way to check that theory would be to check and see how many ships are presently scheduled to sail within the first week, for any line (i.e. Carnival), regardless of which week. It could be the second week of November, or the third, etc.. If Carnival is scheduling maybe 10 ships off the get go then that would give an idea of how many crew might be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lazydayz Posted August 7, 2020 #17 Share Posted August 7, 2020 NCL CEO said four weeks to staff, and they wouldn’t be staffing all the ships at once. It has taken me some time to get here, but I can see now that it will be nothing short of miraculous for cruising from the US to restart this year. At least the COVID numbers in Florida are starting to trend down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWolver672 Posted August 7, 2020 #18 Share Posted August 7, 2020 18 hours ago, BlerkOne said: Many positions are not highly skilled - how hard is it to be a bacon server? Ships routinely turnover staff when contracts end. They have experience in this area. But they do more than serve bacon. Lots of them are on fire crews, operate lifeboats, do the muster drills, etc. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan58 Posted August 7, 2020 #19 Share Posted August 7, 2020 In my opinion Carnival should start with one ship when the time is adequate. That way you actively minimize the overall exposure to the Virus effects. The bigger issue for Carnival is "Who Are Going To Be The First Test Subjects"? I think it will be very difficult to find initial Crew and Passengers for that Voyage???? Are you Brave enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfaaborg Posted August 7, 2020 #20 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 hours ago, RWolver672 said: But they do more than serve bacon. Lots of them are on fire crews, operate lifeboats, do the muster drills, etc. ya, but bacon is pretty important! 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted August 7, 2020 #21 Share Posted August 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, jetsfan58 said: In my opinion Carnival should start with one ship when the time is adequate. That way you actively minimize the overall exposure to the Virus effects. The bigger issue for Carnival is "Who Are Going To Be The First Test Subjects"? I think it will be very difficult to find initial Crew and Passengers for that Voyage???? Are you Brave enough? No, it wouldn't be, Crew aren't be subjected to the US media bad news blitz and they can walk out their front door to meet a neighbor with any one of a dozen diseases rarely found in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted August 7, 2020 #22 Share Posted August 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Elaine5715 said: No, it wouldn't be, Crew aren't be subjected to the US media bad news blitz and they can walk out their front door to meet a neighbor with any one of a dozen diseases rarely found in the US. Finally, someone who understands! US media bad news blitz, exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted August 7, 2020 #23 Share Posted August 7, 2020 The US doesn't have a lot of dengue fever, cholera, rabies, Japanese encephalitis , malaria , typhoid or Yellow fever. I would bet many crew know someone who has been exposed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelhound Posted August 8, 2020 #24 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 6:03 AM, beerman2 said: Chengkp75 has said it would take 4-6 weeks to completely staff/ provision the ship. That's coming from someone who has worked on NCL as a chief engineer. That sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted August 8, 2020 #25 Share Posted August 8, 2020 20 hours ago, jfaaborg said: ya, but bacon is pretty important! 🤣 Not if you are a vegetarian. And the crew's drills for safety of the passengers are also important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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