Rare Laszlo Posted November 12, 2020 #1 Share Posted November 12, 2020 First ship out of the gate...... https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/caribbean-cruise-seadream-1-covid/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerman2 Posted November 12, 2020 #2 Share Posted November 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, Laszlo said: First ship out of the gate...... https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/caribbean-cruise-seadream-1-covid/index.html Yep 53 pax and 66 crew on board. Now pax confined to cabin. Sounds like fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipof6Fools Posted November 12, 2020 #3 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Will have to see if it a false positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted November 12, 2020 #4 Share Posted November 12, 2020 To me, this is not the last thing the cruise lines needed in organizing new cruises, that was back when this whole thing started when Princess admin, decided that "oh well, it's too late now to try to stop it" was first posted. My opinion is, had the admin of Princess taken the bull by horns and attempted to stop this virus in it's tracks by isolating pax and staff in the first phase of this horrid virus, the whole outcome of cruise travel would have been a totally different outcome. Just my opinion and I understand most will be disagree ... it's all good but, I will stand my ground! Cheers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmersfight Posted November 12, 2020 #5 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Well, if you have to be isolated in your cabin at least you're on a luxurious "super yacht" so I'm sure the accommodations are pretty "suite". 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwman Posted November 12, 2020 #6 Share Posted November 12, 2020 11 hours ago, Shipof6Fools said: Will have to see if it a false positive. Its not a false positive BBC reporting cruise is stranded. This is the last thing the industry needed and with the US infection rate on the rise I can not even think when we will see the big boys back at seas. This shows clearly what the industry is u against and even though crew are bring brought bck from the east it will be many months before anything sails properly. I hope I am 100% wrong but it will be a generation before cruising returns to "normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinsd Posted November 12, 2020 #7 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just wondering on how all those cruisers will be compensated for the inconvenience of cruising during a pandemic. How could a cruise line be so irresponsible to allow this to happen? Not like a medical emergency where you can just let the passenger off at the next port. Was a waiver signed before the cruise? Looks like more FCC.✌️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted November 12, 2020 #8 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I would assume they re-tested right away and we would have heard this morning if a second test were negative. The passenger was feeling sick and reported it - good for them. This is a big test now... to see if it spreads to anyone else. They did ALMOST everything right. The only thing wrong is they did not require masks for the first days of the cruise, thinking their multi-layer testing and screening was enough to be sure nobody got on board sick. Assuming this is a positive case, this will prove that such measures aren't going to prevent a passenger from being onboard and sick. That's a big deal. And will step up pressure for effective containment on board, and comprehensive measures on return to port. Who's ready to spend a week or two locked in a room after getting back from a cruise cut short? yikes. This is 1 in 50 passengers. Does that suggest you could have 20 sick passengers on a cruise with 1,000 passengers? Bad odds. 20 people could come in close contact with a few hundred others with no ability to contact trace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted November 12, 2020 #9 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Compensated for inconvenience? We'll be signing waivers saying we understand and accept the risks, and any extra costs for evacuation, transportation and quarantine. If anyone offers insurance it will be at a premium cost of hundreds of dollars per person per cruise. Stranded? Not really. The cruise returned to their home port, Barbados, which is the CDC plan for all cruises from the US also. Doctors from Barbados boarded the ship to handle the further testing and decisions about when and how people will be allowed back on shore and to travel home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdsted Posted November 12, 2020 #10 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Unfortunately, this is exactly the problem with resuming cruises. Until a vaccine is available and required of all passengers, cruising ain’t gonna happen. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted November 12, 2020 #11 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 hours ago, wdsted said: Unfortunately, this is exactly the problem with resuming cruises. Until a vaccine is available and required of all passengers, cruising ain’t gonna happen. You know that isn't true, right? I mean, there isn't a vaccine currently being administered on a widespread basis and yet cruising IS happening. So your last phrase is flat out wrong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger88 Posted November 12, 2020 #12 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: You know that isn't true, right? I mean, there isn't a vaccine currently being administered on a widespread basis and yet cruising IS happening. So your last phrase is flat out wrong. Many people are testing these vaccines right now but we haven't got any adequate results yet. Usually this process takes 2-3 years in order to detect any downside effects 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atanac Posted November 12, 2020 #13 Share Posted November 12, 2020 You can lead a horse to water... People who believe taking a cruise is still a good idea have only themselves to blame if they climb onboard and then get quarantined. My mom used to say you cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational person. People need to find another option and forget about cruising no matter what the cruise lines say they will do to protect you. These ships should all have skull & crossbones stenciled on their hull as a warning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted November 12, 2020 #14 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, atanac said: You can lead a horse to water... People who believe taking a cruise is still a good idea have only themselves to blame if they climb onboard and then get quarantined. My mom used to say you cannot have a rational conversation with an irrational person. People need to find another option and forget about cruising no matter what the cruise lines say they will do to protect you. These ships should all have skull & crossbones stenciled on their hull as a warning. The statistics for larger ship will be even more ominous for insuring everyone ship sailing will have someone with COVID and a week sucking each other's air, the outcome is all but assurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted November 12, 2020 #15 Share Posted November 12, 2020 They’ll all be dead in two weeks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovetotravel1977 Posted November 12, 2020 #16 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I am subscribed to Ben and David’s YouTube channel. They have a few videos posted from this cruise. I will be eagerly waiting to watch their next one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted November 12, 2020 #17 Share Posted November 12, 2020 And now there are five passengers who have tested positive https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23862-five-positive-covid-19-tests-on-seadream-ship.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaHunt Posted November 13, 2020 #18 Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 hours ago, BermudaBound2014 said: And now there are five passengers who have tested positive And now six (per "The Points Guy" who is onboard): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare All-ready2cruise Posted November 13, 2020 #19 Share Posted November 13, 2020 Yeah, it really does spread like wildfire... unfortunate that may don't understand that. So wish that this pandemic were understood better. STay safe, wear a mask... serously! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmwman Posted November 13, 2020 #20 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, DCGuy64 said: You know that isn't true, right? I mean, there isn't a vaccine currently being administered on a widespread basis and yet cruising IS happening. So your last phrase is flat out wrong. Started but now stopped in Europe. Passenger number despite everything that was written were low and with the European quarantines on one wants or is able to travel. Look at the spread on one ship. Make no mistake cruising will of course return but it will take time for passengers to get used to or accept the changes and risks! And just to make matters worst holiday and other insurance may well not cover repatriation. or costs of quarantine from cruises. The large ships are months away from a restart, but I agree the time is coming that unless there is restart money is running out. NCL for example, said in April this year that they had 18 months runway well that means it is now less than one year. Edited November 13, 2020 by bmwman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Posted November 13, 2020 #21 Share Posted November 13, 2020 17 hours ago, wdsted said: Unfortunately, this is exactly the problem with resuming cruises. Until a vaccine is available and required of all passengers, cruising ain’t gonna happen. Right at the beginning of this pandemic, I said on these boards that before a vaccine is available and required, I won't be cruising. The year is almost over and I still hold that view. Unfortunately, cruising won't bear any semblance of the amazing experience it was until vaccine requirements are in place. It is so sad, but I am truly grateful for all the wonderful memories I hold of all my cruises. I think that when I am able to step onto a ship again, it will be with even more joy and gratitude! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdsted Posted November 13, 2020 #22 Share Posted November 13, 2020 17 hours ago, DCGuy64 said: You know that isn't true, right? I mean, there isn't a vaccine currently being administered on a widespread basis and yet cruising IS happening. So your last phrase is flat out wrong. Really? Do you think even this super yacht fiasco is going to result in any more cruises? When’s your next cruise departing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerman2 Posted November 13, 2020 #23 Share Posted November 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, wdsted said: Really? Do you think even this super yacht fiasco is going to result in any more cruises? When’s your next cruise departing? This latest cruise is showing how unpredictable the disease is. 1 to 5 with only 53 pax on board. Being quarantined in a cabin on a ship is crazy. And now as they wait to see how disembarking is going to be handled adds to the strain. And is exactly why the CDC is empathizing cruise lines from US ports have that plan in place with all the i's dotted and t's crossed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted November 13, 2020 #24 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, wdsted said: Really? Do you think even this super yacht fiasco is going to result in any more cruises? When’s your next cruise departing? April 2, 2021. When's yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted November 13, 2020 #25 Share Posted November 13, 2020 (edited) On 11/11/2020 at 7:54 PM, beerman2 said: Yep 53 pax and 66 crew on board. Now pax confined to cabin. Sounds like fun. Sea Dream cabins are not the biggest around, and none of them have balconies. They are well appointed, but there is only so much you can do in 220 sqft. Edited November 13, 2020 by zqvol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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