HAL Cancels ALL cruises through March 31, 2021

[boze9999]

https://www.carnivalcorp.com/news-releases/news-release-details/holland-america-line-extends-cruise-pause-include-all-departures

 

[Crazy For Cats]

Thanks for sharing.

[bennybear]

Thank you,  interesting times.   Wonder when they’ll decide about spring European?   

[VMax1700]

8 minutes ago, bennybear said:

 Wonder when they’ll decide about spring European?   

I am wondering why they are sending Westerdam and Nieuw Statendam from their current location to US ports when they are scheduled to sail in Europe from April.  Would they not send them to European ports (or UK port) to prepare for the summer season?

[BermudaBound2014]

Not only did they cancel ALL cruises thru March 31, 2021, they also cancelled all cruises of more than 7 days departing from the USA until November 1, 2021.

 

Here is the official list:

 

 

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23915-holland-america-cancels-cruises-through-march.html

 

Princess also cancelled ALL cruises through March 31, 2021 and all cruises of more than 7 days sailing from the USA until November 1, 2021.

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by BermudaBound2014

[DaveOKC]

I was on the phone with my PCC when this was released.  I went ahead with a new booking for Dec, 2021 as soon as we found this out (the deal I had expired Nov 25, 2020 and I did not want to miss it as I figured many people would be rebooking as well).

 

Now trying to figure out all the credits and new charges will be a major undertaking!

 

 

[kazu]

Yikes.  The Future Cruise Listing just got decimated again.

 

Now to figure out what cruises to remove aside from the ones up to March 31st inclusive.

 

trying to figure out if our Transatlantic in the fall is affected or not.  It was on the list of temporarily hated but we don’t call in the U.S. until after November 1st.  Very confusing.  Hopefully all will be well.

 

 

[aliaschief]

5 minutes ago, kazu said:

Yikes.  The Future Cruise Listing just got decimated again.

 

Now to figure out what cruises to remove aside from the ones up to March 31st inclusive.

 

trying to figure out if our Transatlantic in the fall is affected or not.  It was on the list of temporarily hated but we don’t call in the U.S. until after November 1st.  Very confusing.  Hopefully all will be well.

 

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Yeah, Wonder about our TA in October on Rotterdam. Maybe it’s time to take a river cruise down the Mississippi

 

 

[Lazy Lakes]

29 minutes ago, VMax1700 said:

I am wondering why they are sending Westerdam and Nieuw Statendam from their current location to US ports when they are scheduled to sail in Europe from April.  Would they not send them to European ports (or UK port) to prepare for the summer season?

Was wondering the same even before this news came out.

[Lazy Lakes]

29 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

Not only did they cancel ALL cruises thru March 31, 2021, they also cancelled all cruises of more than 7 days departing from the USA until November 1, 2021.

 

Here is the official list:

 

 

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23915-holland-america-cancels-cruises-through-march.html

 

Princess also cancelled ALL cruises through March 31, 2021 and all cruises of more than 7 days sailing from the USA until November 1, 2021.

 

By BY Grand Africa.....

[Clarabella_Baby]

Can I ask, maybe a silly question about FCC received because of this extension?  I had a cruise booked in this time period, in which I was already receiving $600 in credit from a previously cancelled cruise.  On top of this I had paid another $400 deposit to the booking.  So does the letter sent out, saying:

 

 

mean that I will get the $600 plus the $400 x 2 back in FCC?  So $2000 in FCC?

Edited November 20, 2020 by Clarabella_Baby
clarify calculation

[CruiserBruce]

30 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

Not only did they cancel ALL cruises thru March 31, 2021, they also cancelled all cruises of more than 7 days departing from the USA until November 1, 2021.

 

Here is the official list:

 

 

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23915-holland-america-cancels-cruises-through-march.html

 

Princess also cancelled ALL cruises through March 31, 2021 and all cruises of more than 7 days sailing from the USA until November 1, 2021.

 

The "more than 7 days" from US ports was announced, and discussed here, on Nov 10.

[Lazy Lakes]

1 minute ago, Clarabella_Baby said:

Can I ask, maybe a silly question about FCC received because of this extension?  I had a cruise booked in this time period, in which I was already receiving $600 in credit from a previously cancelled cruise.  On top of this I had paid another $400 deposit to the booking.  So does the letter sent out, saying:

 

 

mean that I will get the $600 plus the $400 x 2 back in FCC?

From what happened to me  if you paid with FCC you don't get the 125% only on the cash part you paid.

[AtlantaCruiser72]

3 minutes ago, Clarabella_Baby said:

Can I ask, maybe a silly question about FCC received because of this extension?  I had a cruise booked in this time period, in which I was already receiving $600 in credit from a previously cancelled cruise.  On top of this I had paid another $400 deposit to the booking.  So does the letter sent out, saying:

 

 

mean that I will get the $600 plus the $400 x 2 back in FCC?

 

That sounds correct - in essence you will have $1400 in FCC when all said and done

[Clarabella_Baby]

1 minute ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said:

 

That sounds correct - in essence you will have $1400 in FCC when all said and done

Why do I get double 200% when the people who have paid in full only get 125%?

[AtlantaCruiser72]

2 minutes ago, Clarabella_Baby said:

Why do I get double 200% when the people who have paid in full only get 125%?

 

One of the great mysteries of life .......  I think they are assuming that most people who have not paid in full only paid minimum deposit and doubling it is a bigger incentive to get them to take FCC over refund perhaps

[BermudaBound2014]

5 minutes ago, CruiserBruce said:

The "more than 7 days" from US ports was announced, and discussed here, on Nov 10.

 

Of course, as sailing more than 7 days from the USA is a limit placed by the Framework for conditional Sailing.

 

However; with today's announcement one might infer that the cruise lines believe the Conditional sailing framework will still be in place 12 months from now even with the new vaccine information posted November 16.

[Clarabella_Baby]

4 minutes ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said:

 

One of the great mysteries of life .......  I think they are assuming that most people who have not paid in full only paid minimum deposit and doubling it is a bigger incentive to get them to take FCC over refund perhaps

I'll take it!  I'm sad that my cruise got cancelled but I was only half heartedly expecting it to sail anyway.   come on vaccines!!!

 

Thanks everyone for your help!

Edited November 20, 2020 by Clarabella_Baby
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[NCTribeFan]

I only got one cancellation email for my January NA B2Bs.  125% FCC only.  No OBC.  No option for a refund.

 

Edit - there is a refund option.  I may take the FCC on one and get the other refunded, but since my FCCs are small, I may keep them to apply.

 

Since these were "free" casino offers (actually paid $200 fare for each), I had to pay in full when booked and wasn't able to use my FCC from my April 2020 Zaandam cancellation.

 

So I'll have $250 x 2 FCC plus what I had from Zaandam (also not much since it was a deeply discounted casino fare).

 

Next to worry about is my first on Celebrity for mid-March.  Probably won't happen.  After that, the 4+7 B2B I booked on MSC to replace the NCL TA I cancelled on my own.

Edited November 20, 2020 by NCTribeFan

[Clarabella_Baby]

1 minute ago, Clarabella_Baby said:

I'll take it!  I'm sad that my cruise got cancelled but I was only half heartedly expecting it to sail anyway.   come on vaccines!!!

 

Thanks everyone for your help!

 

[CJcruzer]

 

20 minutes ago, aliaschief said:

Yeah, Wonder about our TA in October on Rotterdam. Maybe it’s time to take a river cruise down the Mississippi

 

 

I was thinking along those lines also! 😏

[NavArch64]

Our booking on the Rotterdam (VII) Amsterdam to Ft Lauderdale Oct 10-24 2021 was just canceled via email from Gus.

[AtlantaCruiser72]

35 minutes ago, kazu said:

trying to figure out if our Transatlantic in the fall is affected or not.  It was on the list of temporarily hated but we don’t call in the U.S. until after November 1st.  Very confusing.  Hopefully all will be well.

 

ANY sailing DEPARTING on or before 11/1, with a duration of 8 days or more, and scheduled to call on a US port is cancelled.  This also includes b2b cruises sold as consecutive/collectors cruises where the individual segments add up to 8 days or more.  It appears that back to back sailings will not be allowed regardless of sailing length of each individual segment.

Edited November 20, 2020 by AtlantaCruiser72

[AtlantaCruiser72]

duplicate thread deleted

Edited November 20, 2020 by AtlantaCruiser72

[NCTribeFan]

At least I hadn't booked my air or hotel!  I have plenty of funds with SW from cancelled flights earlier this year.