Pratique Posted March 8, 2021 #176 Share Posted March 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I was hoping clause #21 would show up. If there was ever a time for Royal to rework the loyalty program, this present operations pause seems like a good one. Maybe they are cooking something up right now. The airlines have not shied away from changing the perks even for the so-called million milers, while at the same time giving equivalent perks to the branded credit card holders and the frequent fliers. They're chasing dollars wherever they can, even basing the rewards on dollars spent + miles flown. If you had to name your most valuable Pinnacle benefit, the one you would be most upset to lose, would it be the lounge access? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfcathorse Posted March 8, 2021 #177 Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pratique said: If you had to name your most valuable Pinnacle benefit, the one you would be most upset to lose, would it be the lounge access? I would be most upset if I lost the free Wifi benefit 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 8, 2021 #178 Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pratique said: If there was ever a time for Royal to rework the loyalty program, this present operations pause seems like a good one. Maybe they are cooking something up right now. The airlines have not shied away from changing the perks even for the so-called million milers, while at the same time giving equivalent perks to the branded credit card holders and the frequent fliers. They're chasing dollars wherever they can, even basing the rewards on dollars spent + miles flown. If you had to name your most valuable Pinnacle benefit, the one you would be most upset to lose, would it be the lounge access? Probably, but I'd be fine with the vouchers they are doing on the Singapore sailings in lieu of the SL Love CK access, but that is ship specific. 150% solo discount is our most valuable perk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 8, 2021 #179 Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, wolfcathorse said: I would be most upset if I lost the free Wifi benefit That's a great one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 8, 2021 #180 Share Posted March 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I was hoping clause #21 would show up. Took longer than I thought. Hope your had a good time at Bike Week Was attempting to hold off but it got too deep. Lol Bikeweek is very busy and packed. DOT and Volusia shutting off many venues for traffic flow. I95 was backed going North 3 miles trying to get into Destination Daytona. US1 both directions was backed up 2 miles. They shut down entrance to DD around 3 yesterday. CEO of DD said only 2nd time in 16 years. Daytona Mayor has made a mess on Main St by not allowing bike parking on sidewalks. The Naked Cowboy has been arrested for Pan handling and resting arrest without Violence. Judge dismissed charges as he said they were donations. He left town in went to Bikeweek on the West coast. It’s packed and businesses need this boost. So many people from out of State that are just feed up with being locked down and ready to get out and party. Lots of vendors. Missing in action, Factory Harley-Davidson is not represented here. There are a few known people but they are not wearing any H-D logo (Staff) for fear of repercussions from the Wisconsin Governor. Numbers predicted prior to event was 200-300k. That has changed to 400-500k. 500k would be there with records set at other Bikeweeks. Lots of good live music at many venues and booze is flowing freely. It’s a little chilly but nice weather for rest of the week. We came home a little early to cook some nice bone in ribeyes. Thanks for asking. M8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk04 Posted March 8, 2021 #181 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Both Harmony and Symphony SL/CK are larger than the one on Oasis/Allure Maybe it seems bigger because the bar is larger? IIRC, the one on Allure backs up against the window and was pretty long. At least it seemed longer than the one on Symphony. But. DH will tell you I am terrible at visualizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigar King Posted March 8, 2021 #182 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: If there is a problem, Royal can fix it. Everything else is noise I think that just about sums it up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 8, 2021 #183 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, jk04 said: Maybe it seems bigger because the bar is larger? IIRC, the one on Allure backs up against the window and was pretty long. At least it seemed longer than the one on Symphony. But. DH will tell you I am terrible at visualizing. Correct, O/A have the original VCL bar since it was a remodel. H/S have a much smaller bar, but I prefer the new design 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted March 8, 2021 #184 Share Posted March 8, 2021 5 hours ago, island lady said: Teeara...meet Bucky and I in CK for lunch in Barcelona! You will see why. Relaxed lunch, no dragging your carry on around, or trying to stuff them under the table in the WJ. 🙂 If my wife and I end up doing the Allure TA, can be join you😂😂. Mid-D+ in GS. mac_tlc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted March 8, 2021 #185 Share Posted March 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Correct, O/A have the original VCL bar since it was a remodel. H/S have a much smaller bar, but I prefer the new design The overall design on H/S is better except the bar faces the wall. On a ship with precious few outside views this was a mistake IMHO. I love sitting at the bar on O/A and getting the 120 degree view. I never sit at the bar on H/S, that one is grab and go sit somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 9, 2021 #186 Share Posted March 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Pratique said: The overall design on H/S is better except the bar faces the wall. On a ship with precious few outside views this was a mistake IMHO. I love sitting at the bar on O/A and getting the 120 degree view. I never sit at the bar on H/S, that one is grab and go sit somewhere else. Allows for more window seating for diners.😉 To me, that's a good thing.😁 When I sit at bar on Oasis, I feel uncomfortably low, and I'm over 6' tall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted March 9, 2021 #187 Share Posted March 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: When I sit at bar on Oasis, I feel uncomfortably low, and I'm over 6' tall Dan and I feel uncomfortable sitting at the bar as well 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted March 9, 2021 #188 Share Posted March 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Allows for more window seating for diners.😉 To me, that's a good thing.😁 When I sit at bar on Oasis, I feel uncomfortably low, and I'm over 6' tall IDK, barflies want views too lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk04 Posted March 9, 2021 #189 Share Posted March 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: When I sit at bar on Oasis, I feel uncomfortably low, and I'm over 6' tall I feel low as well, but I am just over 5 feet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandebeach Posted March 9, 2021 #190 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Correct, O/A have the original VCL bar since it was a remodel. H/S have a much smaller bar, but I prefer the new design The first time I walked into CK on Harmony, I felt like something was very wrong, until I realized the layout of Harmony (and also Symphony) are the opposite of O/A. Also, we sat at the tables for 2 against the back wall, which do not exist on O/A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigG Posted March 9, 2021 #191 Share Posted March 9, 2021 The bar is simply table height and the bar tenders are in a sunken well. Of course it feels low. I would never know though because I CAN NEVER GET 2 SEATS SIDE BY SIDE! Just kidding. We were getting off Oasis exactly 1 year ago. The cruise was at capacity. The DL was ridiculously crowded. The SL was full of Pinnacles including Super Mario holding court every night. That said, I never felt as though I couldn't get a drink at the bar or a table in the CK. I'm not a Pin by far, just a newly minted Diamond and a suite customer. Pinnacle members deserve the SL. I enjoy sharing the space with them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard54 Posted March 9, 2021 #192 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Having only sailed on Oasis and Allure in that class I was unaware of the different layouts of the CL's/SL's on the others. This coming Fall and Winter we are booked on Symphony, Harmony and Oasis so I will be paying attention to the differences. Assuming we are still allowed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted March 9, 2021 #193 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I agree about preferring the bar on O/A. I like being able to see out rather than facing the wall. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted March 9, 2021 #194 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Retinking this Pinnacle limited access. ... You could create a hard line of points. 1050, 1400, 1750, etc.. Just pick one At some point they'll need to begin differentiating above 700 without adding more official levels like P+. Sort of like the subtle difference for D+ as you progress from 175 towards 700. They aren't official named level changes but there are subtle changes in perks at 340 and 525 for example. Royal can easily model how a 1050 or 1400 threshold would impact the numbers eligible for SL/CK access. I agree it would be better to establish as a well known standard, not some elusive variable where you don't know if you made it until you are onboard. Time to dig out an old Gold level seapass card and a lanyard then crash the top tier events when or if they ever return. Sit in the Pinnacle section and wait for it... Edited March 9, 2021 by twangster 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 9, 2021 #195 Share Posted March 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Blizzard54 said: Having only sailed on Oasis and Allure in that class I was unaware of the different layouts of the CL's/SL's on the others. This coming Fall and Winter we are booked on Symphony, Harmony and Oasis so I will be paying attention to the differences. Assuming we are still allowed. The SL's on H&S have a much superior snack area. You'll enjoy that. 😁 A challenge for the CK manager is keeping SL patrons out of the eating area where the O&A bar is. It's kind of a gray area where SL stops and CK starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted March 9, 2021 #196 Share Posted March 9, 2021 17 hours ago, Cigar King said: I "assume" human nature being what it is, this is likely a true statement. I fail to see why my agreement to this is needed. Thank you...you just did. 😉 Won't bother you any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted March 9, 2021 #197 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, mac_tlc said: If my wife and I end up doing the Allure TA, can be join you😂😂. Mid-D+ in GS. mac_tlc We will already be on board, doing 2 loops around the Med two legs before the TA. 🤗 If you get over your laughter .....and actually book that cruise. Will be honored to meet you. Edited March 9, 2021 by island lady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted March 9, 2021 #198 Share Posted March 9, 2021 4 hours ago, RFerrington said: I agree about preferring the bar on O/A. I like being able to see out rather than facing the wall. Me too. Not the same like Allure and Oasis. Love looking out the windows. On Harmony, we just grab a wine/beer and leave. Bar is smaller, and looking at the wall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 9, 2021 #199 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I have an idea. Allow full access to SL/CL for Pinnacles who are booked in a JS. Lots of my Pinnacle friends, who are NOT “pesky”, stay in JS’s. This should make the numbers manageable on any cruise. 😇 M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 9, 2021 #200 Share Posted March 9, 2021 55 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: I have an idea. Allow full access to SL/CL for Pinnacles who are booked in a JS. Lots of my Pinnacle friends, who are NOT “pesky”, stay in JS’s. This should make the numbers manageable on any cruise. 😇 M8 Interesting concept 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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