ann141 Posted March 24, 2021 #276 Share Posted March 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: We book our repeat prescriptions online now, and I recently requested online access to my patient records, and the data is all there, I have not studied it in detail yet, so no idea if I can just access a vaccination list, or maybe even just the Covid record, but it is there on the date administered I book my repeat prescriptions online too and there is a list of my childhood vaccinations but not covid.My GP seemed to imply something would be worked out using a national app rather than information from a GP(I had been hoping to be able to print something off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted March 24, 2021 #277 Share Posted March 24, 2021 48 minutes ago, davecttr said: My latest worry is that if verifying your vaccinations is via GP letter and your GP refuses for whatever reason you are up the creek without the proverbial. I don't think it is likely that an electronic version will be available by July/August 😟 I'm sorry but I missed the bit where you said ' and my solution is ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted March 24, 2021 #278 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, zap99 said: I'm sorry but I missed the bit where you said ' and my solution is ' is that meant to be sarcasm sorry - i m somewhat stressed at the moment Edited March 24, 2021 by davecttr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachiem Posted March 24, 2021 #279 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ann141 said: I book my repeat prescriptions online too and there is a list of my childhood vaccinations but not covid.My GP seemed to imply something would be worked out using a national app rather than information from a GP(I had been hoping to be able to print something off) Mine is now showing on my App with my prescriptions...it took a little while to appear. There's no point taking a screenshot as there is no name on that page so it could be anyones? Edited March 24, 2021 by rachiem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckett Posted March 24, 2021 #280 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, davecttr said: My latest worry is that if verifying your vaccinations is via GP letter and your GP refuses for whatever reason you are up the creek without the proverbial. I don't think it is likely that an electronic version will be available by July/August 😟 Dave, if you ask your surgery to give you a summary print out of your medical records they are required to furnish you with one. It will come out on plain paper and the surgery can just put their stamp on it - that's what I'm doing at my surgery anyway. This print out will show your imms and vaccs and the relevant dates. I'm sure that by the time you sail something digital will be in place but this could be a fall-back Plan B. Jane.x 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zap99 Posted March 24, 2021 #281 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, davecttr said: is that meant to be sarcasm sorry - i m somewhat stressed at the moment Well you booked a cruise for August, but don't think an electronic version of a vaccination record will be available, so I thought you may have a plan B.🤔 Edited March 24, 2021 by zap99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokey01 Posted March 25, 2021 #282 Share Posted March 25, 2021 14 hours ago, rachiem said: Mine is now showing on my App with my prescriptions...it took a little while to appear. There's no point taking a screenshot as there is no name on that page so it could be anyones? Likewise for me when I viewed within PatientAccess on my iPad no name shows but when I pressed ‘print’ then my name, nhs number etc appeared along with my COVID vaccination details. I was able to save it as a PDF. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachiem Posted March 25, 2021 #283 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, smokey01 said: Likewise for me when I viewed within PatientAccess on my iPad no name shows but when I pressed ‘print’ then my name, nhs number etc appeared along with my COVID vaccination details. I was able to save it as a PDF. Our doctor's have decided to upgrade their online system (in Dec) and have messed up everyones access. Hopefully P&O will accept a card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adawn47 Posted March 25, 2021 #284 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/24/2021 at 4:56 PM, ann141 said: I book my repeat prescriptions online too and there is a list of my childhood vaccinations but not covid.My GP seemed to imply something would be worked out using a national app rather than information from a GP(I had been hoping to be able to print something off) Childhood vaccinations is the only one I can access too. No record of covid, but those we had when begining to travel to SE Asia in 1985 are there. Avril 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted March 26, 2021 #285 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I find it odd that the crew are not going to be vaccinated. So they are tested for 2 weeks and then they go on board. There is nothing to say that us vaccinated people cannot carry it on board after an excursion or even Southampton, so then we could give it to the crew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenewbie1976 Posted March 26, 2021 #286 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: I find it odd that the crew are not going to be vaccinated. So they are tested for 2 weeks and then they go on board. There is nothing to say that us vaccinated people cannot carry it on board after an excursion or even Southampton, so then we could give it to the crew I'm sure Carnival would prefer them to be vaccinated but short of bribing a government to let them jump ahead of the queue, I'm not sure what they could do? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef112 Posted March 26, 2021 #287 Share Posted March 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: I find it odd that the crew are not going to be vaccinated. So they are tested for 2 weeks and then they go on board. There is nothing to say that us vaccinated people cannot carry it on board after an excursion or even Southampton, so then we could give it to the crew I think I read that all crew would quarantine and then be tested weekly onboard. I don't think there's much more they can do really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted March 26, 2021 #288 Share Posted March 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: I find it odd that the crew are not going to be vaccinated. So they are tested for 2 weeks and then they go on board. There is nothing to say that us vaccinated people cannot carry it on board after an excursion or even Southampton, so then we could give it to the crew I imagine they will be vaccinated as soon as possible but not as part of the UK vaccination rollout. Yes, some may catch covid from the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindylooellalouise Posted March 26, 2021 #289 Share Posted March 26, 2021 In an ideal world they should be vaccinated but we don’t live in an ideal world and we can only hope everyone will be safe and we all do our best to make sure that it happens 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted March 26, 2021 #290 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, lindylooellalouise said: In an ideal world they should be vaccinated but we don’t live in an ideal world and we can only hope everyone will be safe and we all do our best to make sure that it happens I don't think P&O or Cunard are any line/cruise line grouping really has any handle on how to get the vaccination of crew done at least in the short term. With the exception and it's pride of America with an all American crew. They will be vaccinated but in the short term they will probably be the only ones who will. It is all well and good cruise lines making grandiose statements about vaccination of staff and protection of staff but they are now finding it very tough to figure out how to stand behind those statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted March 26, 2021 #291 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I hope P&O realise that the proof of vaccination requirements are required well before Britannia starts sailing in July. As for an App, from what was said yesterday it looks like the 'App' won't appear until after all adults have had their second dose, maybe sometime in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted March 26, 2021 #292 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, jeanlyon said: I find it odd that the crew are not going to be vaccinated. So they are tested for 2 weeks and then they go on board. There is nothing to say that us vaccinated people cannot carry it on board after an excursion or even Southampton, so then we could give it to the crew We are going to have to learn to live with this virus Jean, and it is going to take quite some time for everyone worldwide to be vaccinated. In the interim quarantine and regular testing of anyone not vaccinated is the only way to operate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted March 26, 2021 #293 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, davecttr said: I imagine they will be vaccinated as soon as possible but not as part of the UK vaccination rollout. Yes, some may catch covid from the passengers. I think the issue for me are what are the cruise lines protocol when/if an unvaccinated crew member tests positive. Presumably crew member and all those that work or socialise with him will then need to quarantine and everyone keeps fingers crossed that their cruise journey won’t be altered as a result.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted March 26, 2021 #294 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, jeanlyon said: I find it odd that the crew are not going to be vaccinated. So they are tested for 2 weeks and then they go on board. There is nothing to say that us vaccinated people cannot carry it on board after an excursion or even Southampton, so then we could give it to the crew But how can they be vaccinated if they come from poor countries who either cannot afford vaccines or have not been given enough to vaccinate all their people. It is not the responsibility of UK government to give foreign nationals vaccines just so privileged UK people can go on a cruise when there asre so many of their own nationals not yet been vaccinated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted March 27, 2021 #295 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Couldn't agree more. Just don't see passengers having to be vaccinated and the crew not. It doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted March 27, 2021 #296 Share Posted March 27, 2021 54 minutes ago, jeanlyon said: Couldn't agree more. Just don't see passengers having to be vaccinated and the crew not. It doesn't make sense. It doesnt but if cruise lines had to wait for all their staff and crew be vaccinated in their own countries there would be no cruises well into 2022 if possibly longer and by then they will all have gone to the wall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted March 27, 2021 #297 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, jeanlyon said: Couldn't agree more. Just don't see passengers having to be vaccinated and the crew not. It doesn't make sense. Jean, keeping repeating this comment is not going to change the facts, most cruise ship Hotel staff are young and it will be ages before they qualify for vaccination in their own country, and there would be a massive outcry from many quarters if the cruise lines were allowed access to UK stocks to vaccinate the crew. So until they are vaccinated the cruise lines will have to rely on quarantine and regular testing to keep their staff virus free. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted March 27, 2021 #298 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, terrierjohn said: Jean, keeping repeating this comment is not going to change the facts, most cruise ship Hotel staff are young and it will be ages before they qualify for vaccination in their own country, and there would be a massive outcry from many quarters if the cruise lines were allowed access to UK stocks to vaccinate the crew. So until they are vaccinated the cruise lines will have to rely on quarantine and regular testing to keep their staff virus free. And no different to going to a hotel in the UK, where the majority of the young staff will not have been vaccinated. Surely, if you have had two injections, you can be fairly confident that you will not contract CV19. Given how many people are booking hotel holidays in the UK this summer, I'm not sure why there is such an issue with unvaccinated staff on a ship. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted March 28, 2021 #299 Share Posted March 28, 2021 for some of us 2 doses of the vaccine and even the 3rd booster in the summer is unlikely to give us much, if any, protection. However, most of us in that position know this (Any one who has had a leukemia in the past or some other blood cancers along with anyone who has had a transplant are in this situation) Initial studies show 13% efficacy dropping over time to 8% Some other autoimmune disorders including T1D & Lupus) are also now looking like they don't respond to the vaccines as well studies showing the 35-65% efficacy depending on age and condition, all be it better than the first groups I mentioned). We are waiting the next study "Octave" for more info. And there is work ongoing on an antibody vaccine which if it works will be a 6 monthly booster for people in my position. But testing will not be complete until end of 21 early 22. The only solution is we will have to adapt out behaviour accordingly, My consultants have still got me in shielding until they say otherwise, hopefully by end of May. We just bought a brand new caravan (as not allowed near any mold risk so couldn't risk a 2nd hand one) and are now looking at cruises again in 2023. The same risk analysis will apply to hotels and indoor dining one I am freed from shielding. 11 hours ago, wowzz said: And no different to going to a hotel in the UK, where the majority of the young staff will not have been vaccinated. Surely, if you have had two injections, you can be fairly confident that you will not contract CV19. Given how many people are booking hotel holidays in the UK this summer, I'm not sure why there is such an issue with unvaccinated staff on a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted March 28, 2021 #300 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I am not concerned about catching the virus after I have had 2 vaccinations. Sorry if that is what I implied. Wasn't meant that way. I was merely thinking about half the crew going down with it and that would ruin the cruise. Families with children won't be able to cruise on anything this year if children can't be vaccinated either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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