Rare ReneeFLL Posted July 16, 2021 #51 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 12:59 PM, Ashland said: The law does at times reach the right decision. No one should feel sorry for the grandpa...it was completely his fault no matter how some have tried to spin this !!! Agreed. He needs to have dumb a$$ written across his forehead. It's just mind boggling that he did that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare S.A.M.J.R. Posted July 16, 2021 #52 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I do think the family signed with the lawyer when they weren't "in their right mind", and I'm going to assume that contract would have had them pay for his (and his employee's time) if they decided to drop the suit before it went to court. That's why I think they never dropped the suit. I'm guessing (hoping) an appeal won't actually be filed. The claim that it will is just "lawyer speak". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted July 16, 2021 #53 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, S.A.M.J.R. said: I do think the family signed with the lawyer when they weren't "in their right mind", and I'm going to assume that contract would have had them pay for his (and his employee's time) if they decided to drop the suit before it went to court. That's why I think they never dropped the suit. If I remember correctly the mom was a district attorney and the father was in law enforcement, perhaps it was a sheriff. They may have been distraught but both of their minds should have known their way around the legal system and what type of agreement to sign with a lawyer. 2 hours ago, S.A.M.J.R. said: I'm guessing (hoping) an appeal won't actually be filed. The claim that it will is just "lawyer speak". I hope it won’t be either. This family has been through enough, for no fault of anyone other than her father in-law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffeebean Posted July 16, 2021 #54 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I was an avid reader and poster on this forum's threads when this needless situation occurred. I'm relieved and thankful Royal Caribbean has been found not responsible for the death of Cloe, may she RIP. I found myself "liking" many posts as I read through this thread. I see everyone who has posted so far is in agreement with the decision of the judge. We all finally agree on something! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loman Posted July 16, 2021 #55 Share Posted July 16, 2021 If you want to take risks , you should do it with your own life , not someone elses. If you want to drive really fast , do it with nobody else in the car , or go sky diving. You should not subject others to your reckless behavior . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare S.A.M.J.R. Posted July 16, 2021 #56 Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 hour ago, A&L_Ont said: If I remember correctly the mom was a district attorney and the father was in law enforcement, perhaps it was a sheriff. They may have been distraught but both of their minds should have known their way around the legal system and what type of agreement to sign with a lawyer. I hope it won’t be either. This family has been through enough, for no fault of anyone other than her father in-law. Oh, I totally agree they "should have known better" before signing with the ambulance chaser. But, I'd rather believe they really couldn't get out of the contract than they really thought Royal was at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare brillohead Posted July 16, 2021 #57 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, S.A.M.J.R. said: Oh, I totally agree they "should have known better" before signing with the ambulance chaser. But, I'd rather believe they really couldn't get out of the contract than they really thought Royal was at fault. I understand the impulse to not think the worst of the parents, but they've gone "above and beyond" just allowing the lawsuit to go forward because they couldn't get out of the contract they signed in a moment of weakness. They did televised media interviews where they went on and on about how they want the cruise ships fixed so they're not so dangerous so this doesn't happen to someone else's child, etc., completely glossing over the fact that in spite of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of children having cruised on ships designed exactly this same way for a few decades, nobody ever once has dropped a child out an open window on a cruise ship.... until Grandpa Anello did it. Edited July 16, 2021 by brillohead typo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare S.A.M.J.R. Posted July 16, 2021 #58 Share Posted July 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, brillohead said: I understand the impulse to not think the worst of the parents, but they've gone "above and beyond" just allowing the lawsuit to go forward because they couldn't get out of the contract they signed in a moment of weakness. They did televised media interviews where they went on and on about how they want the cruise ships fixed so they're not so dangerous so this doesn't happen to someone else's child, etc., completely glossing over the fact that in spite of hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of children having cruised on ships designed exactly this same way for a few decades, nobody ever once has dropped a child out an open window on a cruise ship.... until Grandpa Anello did it. Right. You want to make a bet the lawyer made them do that? I honestly have no idea how these kind of contracts are written. But saying "we believe grandpa is at fault" basically submarines the case. I'm just guessing. I've thought since the start RCI should have zero culpability, it was all the grandfather. I'm disappointed the parents, who have some legal background, would get suckered in by an ambulance chaser to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogbay Posted July 16, 2021 #59 Share Posted July 16, 2021 That poor little baby girl could of banged on the glass , in a bar smoking area , till the cow's come home ... but a step grandfather picked her up after already leaning over a handrail and .... RiP little Angel 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted July 16, 2021 #60 Share Posted July 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hogbay said: That poor little baby girl could of banged on the glass , in a bar smoking area , till the cow's come home ... but a step grandfather picked her up after already leaning over a handrail and .... RiP little Angel 🙏 She could have banged on the glass [in the same spot] at floor level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogbay Posted July 16, 2021 #61 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Another_Critic said: She could have banged on the glass [in the same spot] at floor level. ? Is that not what I said.? no one picked here up at the hockey game ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted July 19, 2021 #62 Share Posted July 19, 2021 FYI Homicide - Homicide is the act of one human killing another. A homicide requires only a volitional act by another person that results in death, and thus a homicide may result from accidental, reckless, or negligent acts even if there is no intent to cause harm. Murder - Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human with malice aforethought. Homicide was the most likely the proper charge. Hard to prove malice aforethought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matj2000 Posted July 19, 2021 #63 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I just cannot understand why they would leave a window open in a "children's play area'.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted July 19, 2021 #64 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 10:39 AM, Another_Critic said: She could have banged on the glass [in the same spot] at floor level. Like she did in the photos the family shared of her doing so at hockey game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted July 20, 2021 #65 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 6:56 AM, matj2000 said: I just cannot understand why they would leave a window open in a "children's play area'.. Have you read the threads and seen the pictures and such? It was NOT a children's play area. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted July 20, 2021 #66 Share Posted July 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, SRF said: Have you read the threads and seen the pictures and such? It was NOT a children's play area. Methinks the previous poster was speaking tongue in cheek (or at least that's how I took it). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfganghowell Posted July 20, 2021 #67 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I am so glad Royal did not settle this to make it go away. The judge absolutely made the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loman Posted July 20, 2021 #68 Share Posted July 20, 2021 49 minutes ago, sparks1093 said: Methinks the previous poster was speaking tongue in cheek (or at least that's how I took it). Ya , i think so too . I enjoy reading Matt`s posts . Always thought provoking .🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegus Posted July 12, 2023 #69 Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 7/14/2021 at 8:37 AM, jamon said: Just read that lawsuit brought by family of daughter who died when falling out of window, while being held by grandfather was dismissed by judge. Tragic event, but decision seems to be the right one....they say they will appeal. looks like they did and some Judge said OK https://www.royalcaribbeanblog.com/2023/07/11/court-allows-toddler-dropped-through-cruise-ship-window-lawsuit-resume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegus Posted July 12, 2023 #70 Share Posted July 12, 2023 looks like the lawsuit is back on according to Matt over a Royal Caribbean Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted July 12, 2023 #71 Share Posted July 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, cruisegus said: looks like the lawsuit is back on according to Matt over a Royal Caribbean Blog I read about it as well. 😤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted July 12, 2023 #72 Share Posted July 12, 2023 This is nuts. Exactly what liability can they possibly assign to Royal? We all know who is at fault and it's not Royal. The family ought to be suing the step-grandfather if anyone at all. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverbeenhere Posted July 12, 2023 #73 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Ugh. Better not write what I was gong to write. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted July 12, 2023 #74 Share Posted July 12, 2023 How horrible for the parents to have to re-live this event 3+ yrs later. They should just let it go and accept the reality that it was a horrible accident and not the fault of Royal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted July 12, 2023 #75 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) I don't mind saying it at all....money grubbers with no case. Takes some cheek to exploit and profit from the death of your own child. But doesn't surprise me...that's the world we live in now. Edited July 12, 2023 by BecciBoo 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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