Mariner Passenger Overboard Rescued

[BND]

2 hours ago, Mum2Mercury said:

 

 

 

Well, if you don't know, you don't know.  On our first-ever cruise (Disney), my husband and I were a little nervous about our then-young daughters, so we went to the top of the ship and "circled down", considering at every point whether a careless child could go overboard.  We determined that it would be possible on Deck 4 to squirm between the railings /gates where the lifeboats are -- but totally impossible to fall over accidentally.  And a child would need a chair to get to the top of a typical railing.  We never worried about it again.  

My point is she has said that for every, single, cruise.  You'd think she'd stop saying it after I told her multiple times (and showed her) how high the railings are.  

[ShillyShally]

38 minutes ago, BND said:

My point is she has said that for every, single, cruise.  You'd think she'd stop saying it after I told her multiple times (and showed her) how high the railings are.  

Ha, nope, my late mother, and my dear MIL, same philosophy!  The times I'd say something over and over and one day she'd hear the same on the radio and believe it - but not in a "you were right" but in a "did you hear?" I watch my husband shake his head regularly when dealing with MIL's texts of "well so and so said" that just argue with our facts!

[volk904]

Lots of people survive a 100 ft fall into the water as long as you don’t hit a life boat on the way down or hit the water wrong. Still really dumb. 

[Merion_Mom]

On 6/26/2023 at 10:19 AM, mmtska said:

I heard 3 different rumors standing at the rail watching us dock. Who knows if we’ll ever hear the actual truth. 

@mmtska - someone posted a video of CD Marc Walker talking about it at the theater that night.  Were you there?

[Merion_Mom]

I stole this from another social media site.

 

"Regarding the woman who went overboard, we have been told by reputable sources that the woman and her traveling companions have been taken off the ship in Curaçao."

[BND]

5 minutes ago, Merion_Mom said:

I stole this from another social media site.

 

"Regarding the woman who went overboard, we have been told by reputable sources that the woman and her traveling companions have been taken off the ship in Curaçao."

There's no surprise there.   I do wonder if cruise lines share info about incidents like with each other, as in names, etc. in order to prevent cruising by this individual again.  She's very, very lucky she survived after that fall.  

[BND]

27 minutes ago, volk904 said:

Lots of people survive a 100 ft fall into the water as long as you don’t hit a life boat on the way down or hit the water wrong. Still really dumb. 

The vast majority who fall 100 feet off a ship do not survive.  Most are knocked unconscious.  Have you ever jumped off a 3 meter diving board?  If you hit the water incorrectly, it hurts, so almost 10x that, the difference will do more than hurt, especially as this person fell over which means more than likely they didn't hit the water foot first or in a diving position.

Edited June 27, 2023 by BND

[smokeybandit]

4 minutes ago, BND said:

 I do wonder if cruise lines share info about incidents like with each other, as in names, etc. in order to prevent cruising by this individual again.

I would think they do.

[GetToLivin]

Crimeny sakes. Took 6'1" DS (15) on his first cruise last December and you better believe the FIRST thing I told him was not to be an idiot and try anything that included leaning far over, sitting on top of, or in general, screwing with any railings. Told him flat out that he'd most likely die if he fell and if he didn't he could get sucked in under the boat (like a good mother, I have to include details and put the fear of meeting his Creator "earlier than planned" in him) 😂 So how GROWN ADULTS manage to do this is beyond me. They definitely need to change the caption to "fell overboard because they were doing A, B, C stupid idiot things," instead of making it sound like you can trip and fall over the railing into the sea.

[F27TW]

On 6/26/2023 at 9:33 AM, smokeybandit said:

3 ways to fall overboard.

1) Homicide

2) Suicide

3) Being stupid (and yes, typically alcohol involved)

 

THIS!   ^^^^

[ReneeFLL]

On 6/26/2023 at 7:52 AM, crewsweeper said:

Yep.  Sitting on the railing is an invitation to the dumb club.

That’s putting it kindly.

 

[mmtska]

10 hours ago, Mum2Mercury said:

Wearing a life jacket.  Do you think she PLANNED to do this?  Surely not.  A person who planned suicide wouldn't wear a life jacket.  A person who wanted a little adventure would've chosen a lower deck.  

Agree.  Not only do you have to climb up, you have to work pretty hard at it, as most railings are angled inward and covered with plexiglass to deny any foothold.  It's not impossible -- not at all -- but it's absolutely not like you're walking into a store, fail to see a curb and trip yourself.  

I also wonder if this person will be escorted off at the next island.  Years ago -- ironically also on Mariner -- a bunch of teenagers threw deck chairs into the ocean, and their families were thrown off at the next island.  I remember the captain telling everyone over the intercom in his noontime address. 

 

This woman basically did the same thing, except what she threw over was herself.  

Well, if you don't know, you don't know.  On our first-ever cruise (Disney), my husband and I were a little nervous about our then-young daughters, so we went to the top of the ship and "circled down", considering at every point whether a careless child could go overboard.  We determined that it would be possible on Deck 4 to squirm between the railings /gates where the lifeboats are -- but totally impossible to fall over accidentally.  And a child would need a chair to get to the top of a typical railing.  We never worried about it again.  

I’m just telling you what I heard. There are about 3 or 4 different rumors. All of them have mentioned deck 10 though. So I’m guessing that part is part of the truth no matter what it is. 

[mmtska]

6 hours ago, Merion_Mom said:

@mmtska - someone posted a video of CD Marc Walker talking about it at the theater that night.  Were you there?

Only thing he’s really said that I’ve personally heard is that it’s wonderful that she was rescued and that the crew was awesome with the recovery. Which she was super lucky!!

[smokeybandit]

I would think falling that far with a life jacket on makes lack of serious injury even more impressive.  

[Tree_skier]

Deck 10 would approximately 100ft from the water.  Unless they hit something on the way down they would very unlikely be seriously hurt.  We used jump and dive off cliffs that height and higher all the time.

 

Here is an example of someone drunk doing on Symphony and was mostly uninjured.

 

 

[A&L_Ont]

8 hours ago, ShillyShally said:

Ha, nope, my late mother, and my dear MIL, same philosophy!  The times I'd say something over and over and one day she'd hear the same on the radio and believe it - but not in a "you were right" but in a "did you hear?" I watch my husband shake his head regularly when dealing with MIL's texts of "well so and so said" that just argue with our facts!

LOL, I bet your mom knew my mom.  I can tell my mom something, but until someone else tells her the same thing it is ignored. 😃

[smwg]

3 hours ago, Tree_skier said:

Deck 10 would approximately 100ft from the water.  Unless they hit something on the way down they would very unlikely be seriously hurt.  We used jump and dive off cliffs that height and higher all the time.

 

Here is an example of someone drunk doing on Symphony and was mostly uninjured.

 

 

Wow. 🤦‍♀️ Smh.

[MagnoliaBlossom]

On 6/26/2023 at 3:43 PM, taglovestocruise said:

It was almost natures way of thinning out the herd. 

My SIL refers to these people as “good candidates for a Darwin Award” 🤣

[BND]

21 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

I would think falling that far with a life jacket on makes lack of serious injury even more impressive.  

This, as the lifejacket would shift a lot.  If she went in feet first, it would slam upwards quickly which could break her neck. Anyone who thinks dropping into the water from 100 feet is easily survivable is incorrect.    Hitting water at that distance is like hitting concrete.

[Tree_skier]

14 minutes ago, BND said:

This, as the lifejacket would shift a lot.  If she went in feet first, it would slam upwards quickly which could break her neck. Anyone who thinks dropping into the water from 100 feet is easily survivable is incorrect.    Hitting water at that distance is like hitting concrete.

I have jumped from that height many many times. I can assure you that while there is risk, as long as you don’t land cockeyed, hitting water won’t hurt you unless it is completely still water. A little bit of wave or chop makes the impact with the water painless. 
 

I imagine a loose fitting life vest might be problematic but if it was worn snuggly it might not cause to much problem. 

Edited June 28, 2023 by Tree_skier

[Boatdrill]

On 6/27/2023 at 3:39 AM, livingonthebeach said:

What's amazing is the 42 year old woman who went overboard did not require any medical attention at all, according to the news reports. They say only 28% of those that go overboard survive.  She's very lucky!

The Daily Mail reported that after she was rescued she stayed in the ship's medical center and was later transferred to a hospital in Curacao. 

[neverbeenhere]

As you know, I go overboard all the time. 

[Mum2Mercury]

On 6/27/2023 at 12:29 PM, BND said:

I just saw a report that it was deck 10.  How the heck did she survive a 100 ft drop?  She must have hit feet first because from that height she could have broken her neck and at the very least knocked unconcious.

I kinda remember my brother talking about being trained to jump from the ship in his Navy basic training, so it's totally possible -- but everything would have to go just right.  

On 6/27/2023 at 1:30 PM, Merion_Mom said:

I stole this from another social media site.

 

"Regarding the woman who went overboard, we have been told by reputable sources that the woman and her traveling companions have been taken off the ship in Curaçao."

Well, they deserved that.  

On 6/27/2023 at 5:26 PM, GetToLivin said:

Crimeny sakes. Took 6'1" DS (15) on his first cruise last December and you better believe the FIRST thing I told him was not to be an idiot and try anything that included leaning far over, sitting on top of, or in general, screwing with any railings. Told him flat out that he'd most likely die if he fell and if he didn't he could get sucked in under the boat (like a good mother, I have to include details and put the fear of meeting his Creator "earlier than planned" in him) 😂 So how GROWN ADULTS manage to do this is beyond me. They definitely need to change the caption to "fell overboard because they were doing A, B, C stupid idiot things," instead of making it sound like you can trip and fall over the railing into the sea.

You're right to warn him about such things -- teens need warnings.  Being sucked under the ship?  Wow, I'm thinking about that now.  

 

I heard once about a teen who jumped overboard while in port -- a dare or a bet or something.  He tried to reboard dripping wet and barefoot but was stopped because he had no ID.  Apparently he was subjected to a long lecture on his he could've been crushed between the ship and the pier.  

2 hours ago, Tree_skier said:

... hitting water won’t hurt you unless it is completely still water. A little bit of wave or chop makes the impact with the water painless ... 

I would never have guessed that.

[Aquahound]

2 hours ago, Tree_skier said:

I have jumped from that height many many times. I can assure you that while there is risk, as long as you don’t land cockeyed, hitting water won’t hurt you unless it is completely still water. A little bit of wave or chop makes the impact with the water painless. 
 

You must have one of those conditions where you feel no pain because 30 years in the USCG and having entered the water a fair share amount of times from pretty good heights has taught me much different. Unless you are a skilled cliff diver, it is very unlikely to hit water, still or choppy, from 100 feet without feeling pain. Heck, 100 feet is even out of the range of most cliff divers. 

[BND]

3 hours ago, Tree_skier said:

I have jumped from that height many many times. I can assure you that while there is risk, as long as you don’t land cockeyed, hitting water won’t hurt you unless it is completely still water. A little bit of wave or chop makes the impact with the water painless. 
 

I imagine a loose fitting life vest might be problematic but if it was worn snuggly it might not cause to much problem. 

My DH is a retired Navy Captain and he's amazed.  Where did you jump from 100 ft?  And you were trained to do so?  She "fell" which indicates no control.