Why is Celebrity Cruises Ignoring California Ports ?

[CDRonboard]

Last time we sailed on a Celebrity ship was  March 2023 on Soltice  doing a B2B for 14 days . We really like the cruise line; but .we are no longer able to travel to  Florida to board a Celebrity ship 

[CDRonboard]

We have been sailing Holland America & Princess in Celebrities absence  from our  Calif ports

[Ex-Airbalancer]

Last fall the cruise were very cheap and sailing 1/2 filled 

Celebrity didn’t make money , not worth the effect to keep a ship in California 

[NutsAboutGolf]

Lack of demand, they often became the only comped cruise low-rolling gamblers would get and would routinely offer last minute "fire sales" to fill cabins.  Same with ships out of PR

[foodsvcmgr]

Several ports in California are legislating against cruise visits.

Most of last years Eclipse sailings out of CA were selling at $400 base fare for 7 days.

Most other departure ports can command significantly higher fares.

I’m sure these were some of the factors Celebrity considered.

[NMTraveller]

Lack of demand.  Several of the places in Mexico are Level 4 on the State Department list.  The Celebrity cruises they do have are very inexpensive.  Not a money maker so they don't sail there...

[NutsAboutGolf]

24 minutes ago, foodsvcmgr said:

Several ports in California are legislating against cruise visits.

Most of last years Eclipse sailings out of CA were selling at $400 base fare for 7 days.

Most other departure ports can command significantly higher fares.

I’m sure these were some of the factors Celebrity considered.

 

But not L.A./San Pedro/Long Beach or San Deigo 

[jelayne]

We when on 1 of the Solstice Mexican Riveria sailing.

Very inexpensive and the ship was nowhere near full.

Not a money maker or they would have continued with them.

[Ex-Airbalancer]

Maybe Celebrity needs to do a 3 day cruise to a private beach in Mexico with a pharmacy to attract customers 😁🤣😉

[Arizona Wildcat]

1 hour ago, NutsAboutGolf said:

 

But not L.A./San Pedro/Long Beach or San Deigo 

OK.  I love to cruise the US West Coast, but cruise to where?

Mexico, always love a port where the local police carry machine guns and the US travel warning means I have no insurance coverage 

California, San Diego great as a port.  Catalina Island is OK.  SFO great.  But Monterrey and Santa Barbara are shut.  Whales require slow cruising speeds so the 14 day RT to Alaska doesn't work any more.

And the short 4 day cruises are not our style.

[doghog]

1 hour ago, NMTraveller said:

Lack of demand.  Several of the places in Mexico are Level 4 on the State Department list.  The Celebrity cruises they do have are very inexpensive.  Not a money maker so they don't sail there...

Not all Pacific Coastal cruises go only to Mexico. We were on the 8 Night Pacific Coastal Eclipse Cruise in 8 October 2023 and only Mexico port was Ensenada. We enjoyed that port. 

[D. B.]

4 minutes ago, Arizona Wildcat said:

OK.  I love to cruise the US West Coast, but cruise to where?

Mexico, always love a port where the local police carry machine guns and the US travel warning means I have no insurance coverage 

California, San Diego great as a port.  Catalina Island is OK.  SFO great.  But Monterrey and Santa Barbara are shut.  Whales require slow cruising speeds so the 14 day RT to Alaska doesn't work any more.

And the short 4 day cruises are not our style.

California cruises are mostly for FUN ships and Booze cruisers who don't care if it goes to Mexico as long as they can Party.

[doghog]

19 minutes ago, D. B. said:

California cruises are mostly for FUN ships and Booze cruisers who don't care if it goes to Mexico as long as they can Party.

You are wrong on your assumption concerning West Coast cruises! We've done a lot of Celebrity, RC and Holland cruises out of San Diego and San Pedro (7 plus nights) that go south into Mexico and never have been booze cruises.  

Edited March 23 by doghog

[D. B.]

1 hour ago, doghog said:

You are wrong on your assumption concerning West Coast cruises! We've done a lot of Celebrity, RC and Holland cruises out of San Diego and San Pedro (7 plus nights) that go south into Mexico and never have been booze cruises.  

I live in California and just wanted to see if anyone was awake today....😗

[SbbquilterUT]

We were happy to sail Solstice last year when she could not sail the Australia season so she came up to LA, waiting to go up to Alaska for the summer - not terribly exciting ports but a great way to spend two weeks in January.  This year we did Navigator of the Seas - not a favorite but we took her as an inexpensive winter get away and enjoyed ourselves.  

[kruzerci]

Because we sailed in a balcony b2b on Eclipse in October for $499+taxes per week. No casino discount. They were struggling to give Solstice and then Eclipse sailings away

[JLMcruise]

I wish they would do a LA- Cabo - Hawaii - I would do B2B2B2B. We love the longer cruises! 

[cruisestitch]

That would violate PVSA unless the ship would return to LA.

[Alakegirl]

49 minutes ago, JLMcruise said:

I wish they would do a LA- Cabo - Hawaii - I would do B2B2B2B. We love the longer cruises! 

They would need to make that a round trip because a one-way would not be allowed since Cabo is not a Distant Foreign Port as required by US law

[JLMcruise]

12 minutes ago, Alakegirl said:

They would need to make that a round trip because a one-way would not be allowed since Cabo is not a Distant Foreign Port as required by US law

Round trip would be fine! Leave Cabo out!

 

[markeb]

7 minutes ago, JLMcruise said:

Round trip would be fine! Leave Cabo out!

 

 

They have to go to Cabo, or some other non-US port. Otherwise it's a domestic cruise. Separate issue from the PVSA but they tend to get lumped together. 

[Alakegirl]

They need one foreign port to make it legal.

[markeb]

38 minutes ago, Alakegirl said:

They need one foreign port to make it legal.

 

Or they need a US flagged ship and comply with US labor and tax laws...

 

Edited to add:

 

Oops! Forgot immigration and customs!

Edited March 24 by markeb

[miched]

Why don’t they sail out of Houston, NOLA, and etc?    
 

Happy  cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

[markeb]

1 minute ago, miched said:

Why don’t they sail out of Houston, NOLA, and etc?    
 

Happy  cruising 🌊🚢🇺🇸🌅

 

Because they can make more money sailing from Florida? Just like California? 😃