Handicap Permit to skip lines??

[davekathy]

It doesn´t really matter if a diability is visible or not, it´s still not a reason for skipping the line, especially with other diasbled People waiting in line.

 

If they had a medical emergency, like an overflowing Stoma for instance, do you really think they had planned ahead and had their blue handicap tag Handy to present visibly to everyone waiting, while Walking ahead?

 

I´m sorry, but I don´t buy your Explanation, this is not how People act when having an emergency and urgent Need to skip the lines and return to the ship.

 

Agree!

[cincicruisers]

I know I am in the minority here, but if there are disabled/handicap folks needing to get on tender I believe they should go to the front of the line. We can't judge whether or not they are truly handicapped but out of respect let them go ahead. No different than getting on plane. They have enough issues getting from one place to next with scooter/wheelchair.

[cx7owner]

I find it's best not to concern ourselves with other people's business. You don't know the facts, and the cruise staff appear to have allowed this to happen, so does it really matter? Enjoy your vacation :)

 

The bulk of the line was actually behind port security, not RCI staff, and that's who let them in front. And I'll add that unlike dress code violators, it's not just their business, as they jumped ahead of everyone else in line. In the grand scheme of things it didn't matter much since it was two people, but if many people started doing skipping the line, it could be ugly.

[BND]

I know I am in the minority here, but if there are disabled/handicap folks needing to get on tender I believe they should go to the front of the line. We can't judge whether or not they are truly handicapped but out of respect let them go ahead. No different than getting on plane. They have enough issues getting from one place to next with scooter/wheelchair.

 

Carrying a blue parking placard means absolutely nothing. This is not a case where someone asked if they could go ahead because of an issue, which most people wouldn't have an problem with. It's the use of a parking placard to cut a line. For all we know, they borrowed it from someone at home and have no reason to have it. The fact they thought that waving that around gave them rights is what the issue is here, not anyone's empathy or anything else.

[Goodtime Cruizin]

I absolutely love this... worthy of a watch. https://youtu.be/WZAwDAdyvpU

[gerif]

I know I am in the minority here, but if there are disabled/handicap folks needing to get on tender I believe they should go to the front of the line. We can't judge whether or not they are truly handicapped but out of respect let them go ahead. No different than getting on plane. They have enough issues getting from one place to next with scooter/wheelchair.

 

I think they do preboarding on a plane to avoid them blocking the aisle during boarding. I have arthritis as well as a crushed vertebrae so standing for long periods hurts. At least those with wheelchairs and scooters have seats.

 

DH has a handicapped plate but when I use his car I would never dream of using a HC spot.

[John Reid]

Do not be fooled into projecting a legitimate or sympathetic reason for this outrageous behavior. If there were an emergency, local staff would be involved by request. How did they project the need to have the pass with them? This is a premeditated, shameless abuse of a parking pass that has nothing to do with reboarding a ship. Were both people having a medical emergency? And, as stated before, it does affect others - everyone else on the line. It's right up there with phony non-service/comfort dogs oh so needed in the dining room.

Edited May 22, 2015 by natty bumppo

[lbjen]

This is the kind of BS that catches on very quickly, I predict we'll see more and more of this now that someone has had the audacity to give it a go.

[A&L_Ont]

I can't read the shirt, but I'm dying from curiosity to know what it says.

 

I'm just in it for the parking

 

John is correct.

[Coralc]

Before I had my first hip replaced and was walking with a cane....we had to go into a city building that had a huge flight of stairs up to the main entrance and a handicapped entrance on the bottom floor.

 

I headed towards the handicapped entrance.

 

DH said, "Are we allowed to go in there? How do they know you can't do the stairs? The placard is in the car."

 

I said, "Oh for Pete's sake, honey...they don't make you wear it around your neck. I think the cane and the painful expression is probably proof enough. " :D:):D

 

I only had a temporary placard, and I get around just fine now.

 

I suppose if someone has trouble standing, the nice thing to do would be to let them go to the front of the tender line. And probably showing a placard cuts down on the complaints about them doing so. :)

Edited May 23, 2015 by Coralc

[GottaKnowWhen]

This is the kind of BS that catches on very quickly, I predict we'll see more and more of this now that someone has had the audacity to give it a go.

 

 

Last year (?) there was a story about wealthy families hiring handicapped individuals to be "family members" with them on trips to Disney. Having an HC along allowed line jumping... I find it disgusting to think of the arrogance of those who give a bad name to those with legitimate needs. As others have pointed out, we don't know enough about the circumstances in this case, but their behavior does seem odd. . .

[Paulxyz2004]

I know I am in the minority here, but if there are disabled/handicap folks needing to get on tender I believe they should go to the front of the line. We can't judge whether or not they are truly handicapped but out of respect let them go ahead. No different than getting on plane. They have enough issues getting from one place to next with scooter/wheelchair.

 

Getting on a plane is a totally different Situation. Pre-boarding a plane with diabled and families who Need assistance has nothing to do with having them skip any lines. It´s simply impossible to assist them with a plane full of People. So they get them onboard, seated and settled before the hordes come onboard and block the aisles. BTW at the other end of the flight they have to wait to be last ones off for the same reason. They empty the plane first and then they got the same room again to give assistance to those that Needs it.

This alone Shows how it´s not about priority but about the Option to give them the assistance needed.

 

You say we should let them pass "out of respect". Well I say "out of respect" People shouldn´t abuse the System.

[Aintnofun007]

This is the kind of BS that catches on very quickly, I predict we'll see more and more of this now that someone has had the audacity to give it a go.

 

 

yes def.. ive seen my fair share of people cruise around on the cruise on a scooter than when we are at port pop off that thing like nothing and walk the rest of the day..

 

 

 

on another note, my parents moved into an age restricted community, they are on the younger side.

 

i cant tell you how many of there neighbors have the handicap parking plates/placards and walk 4 miles a day around the development for exercise. sometimes i even see them in the clubhouse gym and park in a handicapped spot!!! i am sure its not just limited to my parents community and there is a tremendous amount of abuse just like most government programs.

[Dinkachu]

I am disabled, in a wheelchair, on oxygen. I have never asked to cut in line, but I have, on occasion, found myself with a need to get back to the ship faster, such as when an oxygen tank conserver malfunctioned on Grand Cayman.

 

My husband was urging me to go to the front of the line and explain the problem.

 

I stayed in line, at my own peril rather than encounter the displeasure of those who feel it is unfair of me to go ahead of them. I would give anything to be healthy enough that an extra hour in a tender line would not threaten my health.

[RadioRob]

My mother was handicapped and had a great deal of difficulty walking. I absolutely understand the value of individuals needing them as they're going to the grocery store, etc.

 

However the tender line does not have handicap "spaces". It does not have a special line for folks, etc. Just because you have that card does not automatically give you special privileges. It's not a D+ or an Amex card. Haha

 

Now... With that being said, if anyone is having difficulty standing in line, experiencing discomfort/pain, etc... I have no problem with them asking the crew for assistance and getting taken to the front of the line.

 

It's a shame some individuals feel a sense of entitlement in these circumstances. In a way it's saying I'm better than everyone else in line and deserve it simply because of the placard.

[Paulette3028]

I am disabled, in a wheelchair, on oxygen. I have never asked to cut in line, but I have, on occasion, found myself with a need to get back to the ship faster, such as when an oxygen tank conserver malfunctioned on Grand Cayman.

 

My husband was urging me to go to the front of the line and explain the problem.

 

I stayed in line, at my own peril rather than encounter the displeasure of those who feel it is unfair of me to go ahead of them. I would give anything to be healthy enough that an extra hour in a tender line would not threaten my health.

 

If there is any type of medical emergency, of course go to the head of the line....I for sure, and I hope no one else, would put your life in danger.

 

Unfortunately, people who are bystanders don't know that so they GUESS. Then some who are abusing the privilege BRAG about how they use their disability to take advantage of situations.

 

I stopped judging long ago.....but PLEASE if it is a medical emergency.....do what you need to do!!!!

[griffy116]

Had it been for a medical emergency they wouldn't have need to pre-plan carrying their handicapped hanger that should be in their car on the rear view mirror. I have a relative that would sit and think, plot and plan to do this VERY type of thing. It's horribly abusive to people who truly have a medical condition that requires attention and it is abusive to all those others with a disability that sat in the line waiting their turn. I would be afraid of the karma if I were doing something like this. I don't for one minute think there was any legitimate or excuseable reason for this one.

[Paulxyz2004]

I am disabled, in a wheelchair, on oxygen. I have never asked to cut in line, but I have, on occasion, found myself with a need to get back to the ship faster, such as when an oxygen tank conserver malfunctioned on Grand Cayman.

 

My husband was urging me to go to the front of the line and explain the problem.

 

I stayed in line, at my own peril rather than encounter the displeasure of those who feel it is unfair of me to go ahead of them. I would give anything to be healthy enough that an extra hour in a tender line would not threaten my health.

 

Nobody has a Problem with a medical emergency bypassing the line. I still doubt though this was the case the OP described. Let´s face it, you stayed in line, while you should have went to the front as your husband urged you to and someone with a blue placard could have walked past you to skip the line and make you wait even longer.

That´s the issue most People on here have.

[lbjen]

Isn't it a shame that we've become so used to people abusing the system that we come to suspect almost anyone who is asking for help or trying to get assistance. It really makes me sad. These same people wonder why kids have such a sense of entitlement these days, they learned it from their parents.

 

 

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[RocketMan275]

An appropriate action would have been to point these people to the end of the line and tell them that was were the handicapped parking was located.

[WpgCruise]

People have been scamming the System since the day the system was implemented.

 

It's easily 20 years since I first heard of Miami flights referred to as the "Hallelujah" flight.

 

So many frail, disabled souls needing pre-boarding assistance. Yet when the flight lands in Miami so many of these unfortunates have been miraculously healed during the flight and just push their way to the front when it's time to get off.

 

" Hallelujah, I've Been Healed" are the last words heard as they run up the Jetway, easily beating the rest of us to Baggage Claim. (Where we all wait together anyhow:))

[BND]

Isn't it a shame that we've become so used to people abusing the system that we come to suspect almost anyone who is asking for help or trying to get assistance. It really makes me sad. These same people wonder why kids have such a sense of entitlement these days, they learned it from their parents.

 

 

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Well, the people the OP were talking about didn't ask for help. Entitled people never do, they just demand and force. As many have said, if someone really has an issue, we would gladly let them go ahead if asked.

 

On some cruises I'd say 40-50% have mobility issues but only some act like they are entitled. You know the types, the ones that intentionally push their way through on their scooters while running over and into people, make unreasonable demands, etc.

[orville99]

Gold Card holders only get priority tender service when getting off the ship. We have never had priority service when returning to the ship. We wait in line like everyone else.:p

 

The last time we were in grand cayman in FOS, the concierge was going up and down the line for the tenders back to the ship and pulling "her people" out to the front if the line. There was actually a stanchion with a placard on it by a separate entrance that said suite guests.

 

 

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[cruiselvr04]

I agree some people will just push their way to the front using anything to do it. However as one who is new to the handicap world you don't know for sure. The DH now has handicap parking tag and we do take it with us on vacation just in case. It's his hip and he walks with a cane. Last cruise I rented a wheelchair but thankfully did not need to use it. He is okay if he goes slow and doesn't overdo. If he was in extreme pain after a shore excursion I would want him to use it so he could sit down. Thankfully last cruise we used golf carts on the long pier and just did beaches and more cabs then usual and he got thru it. He is planning on a hip replacement before our Novemeber cruise and hopefully will be better.

He travels a lot for work and uses a wheelchair in airports. Yes he is young with really bad joints. I will admit I am a bit embaressed to cut in line with him but the escorts demand that I do it to keep his things together in security. I always apologize to those around me. So remember some of those who are handicapped feel uncomfortable about skipping lines, etc and would just like to be like everyone else. And others will push it to the max like they are privileged.

[John&LaLa]

Getting on a plane is a totally different Situation. Pre-boarding a plane with diabled and families who Need assistance has nothing to do with having them skip any lines. It´s simply impossible to assist them with a plane full of People. So they get them onboard, seated and settled before the hordes come onboard and block the aisles. BTW at the other end of the flight they have to wait to be last ones off for the same reason. They empty the plane first and then they got the same room again to give assistance to those that Needs it.

This alone Shows how it´s not about priority but about the Option to give them the assistance needed.

 

You say we should let them pass "out of respect". Well I say "out of respect" People shouldn´t abuse the System.

 

Agree with first half, but not second. Pre boarders on Delta almost always leave with general departure. I always thought that was comical