Baron Barracuda Posted June 3, 2020 #1251 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 2:05 PM, taglovestocruise said: How about today 06/01/2020.............. 12 month target $87.+ NYSE:RCLRoyal Caribbean Cruises Stock Price, Forecast & News $56.01 +4.14 (+7.98 %) (As of 06/1/2020 01:57 PM ET) Market Capitalization$11.73 billion P/E Ratio66.68 Dividend Yield6.01% Beta2.48 Analyst's Opinion Consensus Rating Royal Caribbean Cruises has received a consensus rating of Hold. The company's average rating score is 2.47, and is based on 9 buy ratings, 7 hold ratings, and 1 sell rating. Price Target Upside/Downside According to analysts' consensus price target of $87.18, Royal Caribbean Cruises has a potential upside of 55.6% from its current price of $56.01. Amount of Analyst Coverage Royal Caribbean Cruises has been the subject of 12 research reports in the past 90 days, demonstrating strong analyst interest in this stock. In the past week four wall st firms cut their price targets on RCL to well below current price. Today Morgan Stanley cut RCL to $33, expecting slower recovery and break-even EBITDA in 2021. Goldman recently cut their price target to $40, JPM cut to $50 and Deutsche Bank to $36. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted June 3, 2020 #1252 Share Posted June 3, 2020 From Marketwatch here's Morgan Stanley analyst Rollo's logic for reducing RCL price target to $33: Shares of cruise operators rallied Wednesday, reversing earlier losses, despite a bearish call from Morgan Stanley analyst Jamie Rollo, who said he believes the cruise industry will take longer than almost any other form of travel to return to normal, as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Shares of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd.(NCLH) rose 3.7% in afternoon trading, after being down as much as 4.0% earlier in the session; Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.(RCL) gained 3.8%, after being down 2.5% at its intraday low; and Carnival Corp.(CCL) reversed an earlier loss of as much as 1.8% to trade up 2.2%. Rollo downgraded Norwegian to underweight from equal weight and trimmed his price target to $13, which is 27.5% below current levels, from $12. He also resumed coverage of Royal and Carnival with underweight ratings. "We model a return to operations in [the fourth quarter of 2020], but expect it will take 6 months for the industry to rehire crew and reposition ships, and we also assume 2021 revenue yields will be depressed by weak demand, travel uncertainty and the use of credits given on 2020 cancellations," Rollo wrote in a note to clients. He doesn't expects positive earnings per share until 2023 for the companies, and sees "no return" to 2019 EPS levels, as high cash burn and capital commitments mean debt leverage "has taken a permanent step up." Over the past month, Norwegian's stock has rallied 30.4% , Royal shares have advanced 42.6% and Carnival's stock has climbed 23.8%, while the S&P 500 has tacked on 10.2%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAMarathoner Posted June 3, 2020 #1253 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 1:33 PM, davelinde said: We own 100 shares each of RCL and Carnival - both offer shareholder benefits in the form of OBC. ^^This^^. Buy with money you can afford to lose. Keep it until you're no longer cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglovestocruise Posted June 4, 2020 #1254 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Hit $60 this morning and now Sits at $58. Might be time for a trailing stop loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted June 4, 2020 #1255 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Baron Barracuda said: From Marketwatch here's Morgan Stanley analyst Rollo's logic for reducing RCL price target to $33: Shares of cruise operators rallied Wednesday, reversing earlier losses, despite a bearish call from Morgan Stanley analyst Jamie Rollo, who said he believes the cruise industry will take longer than almost any other form of travel to return to normal, as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. Shares of Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings Ltd.(NCLH) rose 3.7% in afternoon trading, after being down as much as 4.0% earlier in the session; Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.(RCL) gained 3.8%, after being down 2.5% at its intraday low; and Carnival Corp.(CCL) reversed an earlier loss of as much as 1.8% to trade up 2.2%. Rollo downgraded Norwegian to underweight from equal weight and trimmed his price target to $13, which is 27.5% below current levels, from $12. He also resumed coverage of Royal and Carnival with underweight ratings. "We model a return to operations in [the fourth quarter of 2020], but expect it will take 6 months for the industry to rehire crew and reposition ships, and we also assume 2021 revenue yields will be depressed by weak demand, travel uncertainty and the use of credits given on 2020 cancellations," Rollo wrote in a note to clients. He doesn't expects positive earnings per share until 2023 for the companies, and sees "no return" to 2019 EPS levels, as high cash burn and capital commitments mean debt leverage "has taken a permanent step up." Over the past month, Norwegian's stock has rallied 30.4% , Royal shares have advanced 42.6% and Carnival's stock has climbed 23.8%, while the S&P 500 has tacked on 10.2%. I never quite understood the analyst game. I tend to mostly ignore them. This is the only industry where analysts make predictions/calculations without being held accountable. When proven to be wrong, they have the considerable gall to say it was the company that "missed." And then the company's stock goes down. whutttt? Edited June 4, 2020 by mpk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted June 5, 2020 #1256 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Carnival and NCL both had good gains today while RCL stock went down a little. What was the big news to make those 2 with such large gains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted June 5, 2020 #1257 Share Posted June 5, 2020 RCCL posted two filings with the SEC which involve offering some more bonds: https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/884887/000110465920070035/tm2021602-3_8k.htm https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/884887/000110465920069642/tm2021602d1_8k.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebra36 Posted June 5, 2020 #1258 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Good, now they may be able to pay me my refund. LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted June 5, 2020 #1259 Share Posted June 5, 2020 All the travel stock are flying pre market. Hope they hold. Futures up over 300 pts right now as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted June 5, 2020 #1260 Share Posted June 5, 2020 If anyone watching the stock market, jobs numbers came in as a total shocker. All the economists had it wrong. 11m jobs predicted to be lost. 2.5m jobs were gained. Market going to fly at open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted June 5, 2020 #1261 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Stock hit $67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted June 5, 2020 #1262 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Now at $66. Who would have thought buying at $50 could have been a good deal? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 5, 2020 #1263 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, molly361 said: Stock hit $67 I should probably sell, the net profit would cover OBC for 25 cruises😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgestang Posted June 5, 2020 #1264 Share Posted June 5, 2020 😞 The face you make when you bought in at $34 in March.....got tired of watching it go up 4 then down 4 then up 5 then down 6 then up 7....so starting playing the up/down game and taking small bits of profit and realized if you had just left it alone you would have doubled your money today versus the 50% gain you have. Still....been doing okay for me....but could have been so much better if I had learned how to be patient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted June 5, 2020 #1265 Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I should probably sell, the net profit would cover OBC for 25 cruises😉 Make sure you apply it to all your sailings first 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhraformula00 Posted June 5, 2020 #1266 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) it is because the market is going up. Unemployment reporting lower unemployment today. Edited June 5, 2020 by nhraformula00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted June 5, 2020 #1267 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I should probably sell, the net profit would cover OBC for 25 cruises😉 Sadly I did a couple of months ago. Who knew??!! Just cancelled my $20 buy order, that ship has sailed, pun INTENDED Edited June 5, 2020 by molly361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted June 5, 2020 #1268 Share Posted June 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Now at $66. Who would have thought buying at $50 could have been a good deal? I talked to Dan about buying it yesterday at $55 Told you I'm not very good at this stock stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgestang Posted June 5, 2020 #1269 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) Having unemployment go down rather dramatically given all 'analysts' expected it to go up higher again has spurred a lot of market activity and perhaps added a bit of confidence around the 'post covid19 rebound' that has been hotly debated in terms of will it be a V shape or a hockey stick shape....or somewhere in between Edited June 5, 2020 by dodgestang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwp10mm Posted June 5, 2020 #1270 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I'm not complaining as I've done very well on my purchases from March. I'm not selling either. This is crazy all things considered. I would not be buying at today's price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted June 5, 2020 #1271 Share Posted June 5, 2020 33 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I should probably sell, the net profit would cover OBC for 25 cruises😉 Or pay for your OS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkmaj Posted June 5, 2020 #1272 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Wish I would have bought more! How far in advance can you get the shareholder OBC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted June 5, 2020 #1273 Share Posted June 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, mkmaj said: Wish I would have bought more! How far in advance can you get the shareholder OBC? I don't think there is any time limit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 5, 2020 #1274 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said: Make sure you apply it to all your sailings first Yea, I need to look into that. 👍 A couple are long ones, aren't those worth more? Edited June 5, 2020 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted June 5, 2020 #1275 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Biker19 said: RCCL posted two filings with the SEC which involve offering some more bonds: https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/884887/000110465920070035/tm2021602-3_8k.htm https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/884887/000110465920069642/tm2021602d1_8k.htm Yes another $2B bond sale. Presumably keeps them with required cash until at least mid-2021 if operations do not resume until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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