bouhunter Posted June 20, 2020 #76 Share Posted June 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ride-The-Waves said: "Riots?" Where? Demonstrations against racism, but no riots in the US. Uh, where businesses were burned to the ground and stores looted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise a holic Posted June 20, 2020 #77 Share Posted June 20, 2020 17 hours ago, K.T.B. said: I had a feeling this was coming, especially with the way Florida is getting out of control. What a governor! How can he put so many peoples lives in jeopardy. In addition, to close down a second time might be so much worse for the economy. Big Mistake. I hope that the cruise industry does not go under. I have read that some companies, including celebrity are selling off ships. So sad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floatn Posted June 20, 2020 #78 Share Posted June 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Covepointcruiser said: The numbers in most of the U.S. have decreased even with the protests and riots still occurring. Uh, no. Here's a great graphic site to follow: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser man 60 Posted June 20, 2020 #79 Share Posted June 20, 2020 http://www.sailcosta.com/8115_Safety/8115.03_FAQs.pdf Costa plan for restart, Costa is part of carnival stable as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl94 Posted June 20, 2020 #80 Share Posted June 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, cruiser man 60 said: http://www.sailcosta.com/8115_Safety/8115.03_FAQs.pdf Costa plan for restart, Costa is part of carnival stable as well. More than likely short cruises for Italian residents only and only visiting Italian ports - if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted June 20, 2020 #81 Share Posted June 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, cruiser man 60 said: http://www.sailcosta.com/8115_Safety/8115.03_FAQs.pdf Costa plan for restart, Costa is part of carnival stable as well. Very interesting. Pretty much everything people have been speculating about. Kudos to Costa for communicating this stating it's subject to change. It signals to me that people who say they won't sail if they have to wear a mask should make other plans if their sailing is in the near time future. My concern is will they tolerate the bad behaviors we have seen locally. Historically Celebrity has not enforced many of their rules as to not upset passengers. In this case their entire business depends on this working. I'd make people sign a contract that they read and understand the "rules". Non compliance should result in immediate isolation and subsequent disembarkation. All that said I'm not sure if I'd sail under these conditions, however if I choose to I'd comply with all the rules. After all it's our lives and RCL's business at stake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
begood2me Posted June 20, 2020 #82 Share Posted June 20, 2020 19 hours ago, Dwight1 said: This is just the start. I’m beginning to believe Summer of 2021 maybe the realistic start. It could even go to 1/1/2022. The expected drop in the virus this summer is not materializing. Sent from my iPhone using Forums The virus is opportunistic. If we give it opportunity, it will thrive. We are feeding our enemy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted June 20, 2020 #83 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Since this most directly aligns with the type of environment that is on a cruise ship (as opposed to, say, protests) Vegas Sees Record Coronavirus Infections Two Weeks After Casinos Reopen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted June 20, 2020 #84 Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, ECCruise said: Since this most directly aligns with the type of environment that is on a cruise ship (as opposed to, say, protests) Vegas Sees Record Coronavirus Infections Two Weeks After Casinos Reopen And that was a limited capacity reopening. A reduced passenger load aboard cruise ships will be of little benefit without a good many other measures being instituted. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelexpert35 Posted June 20, 2020 #85 Share Posted June 20, 2020 I was watching CNBC yesterday and saw the interview with the Carnival CEO. I would have wanted him to be asked what steps are they looking at on-board their ships for social distancing. Will they configure their dining rooms as we all know how tight the space is between dining tables. What other steps are they working on, as they now have time on their hands to do this while everything is in limbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrk2cruise Posted June 20, 2020 #86 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Have you read the Costa FAQ listed above? Costa is a Carnival company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise a holic Posted June 20, 2020 #87 Share Posted June 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, wrk2cruise said: Have you read the Costa FAQ listed above? Costa is a Carnival company. As is princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelexpert35 Posted June 20, 2020 #88 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Thanks wrk2cruise for the heads up on the Costa FAQ. Lots of good information there. Hopefully Celebrity puts one out as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix_dream Posted June 20, 2020 #89 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Travelexpert35 said: I was watching CNBC yesterday and saw the interview with the Carnival CEO. I would have wanted him to be asked what steps are they looking at on-board their ships for social distancing. Will they configure their dining rooms as we all know how tight the space is between dining tables. What other steps are they working on, as they now have time on their hands to do this while everything is in limbo. This is what bugs me about the lack of communication. I know obviously everything is not yet worked out, and certainly not a firm restart date. But you can't tell me they don't already have a really good idea about many of these types of changes. They just don't want to start telling us anything because they know many people will not like the changes and then will not book. They'd rather spring the changes on you after they have your money in their hands. Some will say they should wait until everything is all finalized as it would be too hard to control the narrative if things change. I disagree with that in the sense that there is much that is very unlikely to change. There is no reason they couldn't give us SOME information about what the future of cruises might be. They could couch it with all kinds of caveats and 'not locked in granite' statements that the majority of us cruisers, having some intelligence, could handle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser man 60 Posted June 20, 2020 #90 Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, BigAl94 said: More than likely short cruises for Italian residents only and only visiting Italian ports - if it happens. Not sure why you say that, Costa is American owned and cruises around the world and is not based in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl94 Posted June 20, 2020 #91 Share Posted June 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, cruiser man 60 said: Not sure why you say that, Costa is American owned and cruises around the world and is not based in Italy. Genoa based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Cruises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser man 60 Posted June 20, 2020 #92 Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, BigAl94 said: Genoa based https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Cruises But it's HQ is in USA according to Costa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl94 Posted June 20, 2020 #93 Share Posted June 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, cruiser man 60 said: But it's HQ is in USA according to Costa. From their website :- The Costa Crociere Group The only Italian company in the sector to fly the Italian flag, the Costa Crociere Group is Italy’s biggest tour operator. Part of the Carnival Corporation & plc Group, listed on the London and New York stock exchanges and world leader in the sector with a fleet of 103 ships (over 11.5 million passengers in 2016), the Costa Crociere Group is parent company of the Costa Cruise Lines and AIDA Cruises brands. With 27 ships in service for an overall capacity of around 76,000 guests, the Group is headquartered in Genoa and operates at global level, mainly on routes in the Mediterranean, Northern Europe, the Baltic Sea, the Caribbean, North and Central America, South America, the Arab Emirates, the Indian Ocean, the Far East and Africa. By 2021 six next-generation ships will be introduced to the fleet , developed according to responsible innovation criteria and for this reason destined to set a trend for the entire industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare C-Dragons Posted June 20, 2020 #94 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, phoenix_dream said: This is what bugs me about the lack of communication. I know obviously everything is not yet worked out, and certainly not a firm restart date. But you can't tell me they don't already have a really good idea about many of these types of changes. They just don't want to start telling us anything because they know many people will not like the changes and then will not book. They'd rather spring the changes on you after they have your money in their hands. Some will say they should wait until everything is all finalized as it would be too hard to control the narrative if things change. I disagree with that in the sense that there is much that is very unlikely to change. There is no reason they couldn't give us SOME information about what the future of cruises might be. They could couch it with all kinds of caveats and 'not locked in granite' statements that the majority of us cruisers, having some intelligence, could handle. Everyone is anxious to hear what plans X will have in place when they welcome back cruisers, me included! 😊 IMO, X will do most, if not all, of the things that Costa has outlined in their proposed plans, which seem very comprehensive and follow standard guidelines that have been proposed by the CDC for land based businesses. I'm sure X has been working diligently on their plan for some time now. It doesn’t behoove them to rush to publish something, “with all kinds of caveats”, that would inevitably just provoke many to complain about the constantly changing rules. You are correct, there will be changes coming that many will object to, but the consequence of that may be that they will cancel their existing reservations rather than not booking future cruises. In this case it is a no win situation for X. I, for one, will choose to cruise whatever X's plan ends up being. I anticipated the mask requirement and ordered special ones for our upcoming cruise. 😊 Edited June 20, 2020 by C-Dragons 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted June 20, 2020 #95 Share Posted June 20, 2020 21 hours ago, Fouremco said: Nonsense. While today's numbers mark the highest number of reported cases in a single day that the state has seen, according to to the Florida Department of Health, the percentage of positive tests has gone up dramatically, not just the number. More positive cases among young and healthy - more immune people. Older people - protect yourself. Number of hospitalized sick is the number to watch and not how many people tested positive. By now everyone knows how to protect yourself and your family and less listen to the media and politicians, who are enjoying telling us what to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISABELLA Posted June 20, 2020 #96 Share Posted June 20, 2020 18 hours ago, suzyluvs2cruise said: Cruise Lines International Association - CLIA - Jun 19 announcement about the Extension of Cruise Suspension Day to Sept 15 '20 RCI is announcing an update on Jun 23, Carnival on Jun 22 and I haven't heard if Celebrity has announced an Update date. Just checked X website - nothing posted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted June 20, 2020 #97 Share Posted June 20, 2020 18 hours ago, suzyluvs2cruise said: Cruise Lines International Association - CLIA - Jun 19 announcement about the Extension of Cruise Suspension Day to Sept 15 '20 RCI is announcing an update on Jun 23, Carnival on Jun 22 and I haven't heard if Celebrity has announced an Update date. RCI owns Celebrity, sooooo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchclogs Posted June 20, 2020 #98 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) August and first half September itineraries have been removed from website Really wondering if there will be any cruises in Europe in 2020 🙁 Edited June 20, 2020 by dutchclogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jg51 Posted June 20, 2020 #99 Share Posted June 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, K.T.B. said: RCI owns Celebrity, sooooo.... Sorry, but this is not quite correct. The abbreviation, "RCI," stands for Royal Caribbean International -- which does not "own Celebrity." RCI, Celebrity, and Azamara are sister lines fully controlled by the umbrella/parent "holding company" named "Royal Caribbean Cruises Limited" (abbreviated RCCL, not RCI). RCCL will probably allow each of these lines to make its own separate announcement (unfortunately, in our opinion). RCCL also holds "a 67% stake in Silversea Cruises, a 50% stake in TUI Cruises, and a 49% stake in Pullmantur Cruises." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Caribbean_Cruises_Ltd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser man 60 Posted June 20, 2020 #100 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, BigAl94 said: From their website :- The Costa Crociere Group The only Italian company in the sector to fly the Italian flag, the Costa Crociere Group is Italy’s biggest tour operator. Part of the Carnival Corporation & plc Group, listed on the London and New York stock exchanges and world leader in the sector with a fleet of 103 ships (over 11.5 million passengers in 2016), the Costa Crociere Group is parent company of the Costa Cruise Lines and AIDA Cruises brands. With 27 ships in service for an overall capacity of around 76,000 guests, the Group is headquartered in Genoa and operates at global level, mainly on routes in the Mediterranean, Northern Europe, the Baltic Sea, the Caribbean, North and Central America, South America, the Arab Emirates, the Indian Ocean, the Far East and Africa. By 2021 six next-generation ships will be introduced to the fleet , developed according to responsible innovation criteria and for this reason destined to set a trend for the entire industry. The fact remains they are USA owned and your comment that safety guidelines published will only be for Italians out of Italy is basically a load of crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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