emmas gran Posted September 10, 2020 #1 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) It’s reported in Crew centre that a female has tested positive in Palermo Liz Edited September 10, 2020 by emmas gran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 10, 2020 #2 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Rumour is that the person had not yet joined the ship! No ultimate proof of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted September 10, 2020 #3 Share Posted September 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, sidari said: Rumour is that the person had not yet joined the ship! No ultimate proof of the story. The article is informative; I'm not sure if the crew member joined the ship in 14-day quarantine as per MSC protocols and then was removed. Take a look. http://crew-center.com/msc-grandiosa-crew-member-tests-positive-covid-19-during-screening-phase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 10, 2020 #4 Share Posted September 10, 2020 The story was carried in a number of Italian news agencies and was also mentioned by a passenger who should have boarded in Genoa but joined the ship in Palermo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted September 10, 2020 #5 Share Posted September 10, 2020 If anything, it shows MSC COVID-19 detection protocol is working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rare Cruise Critic Chris Posted September 10, 2020 Members #6 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Hi all - Wanted to let you know that we followed up with MSC on this. Here's what they told us: "This is indeed another proof that our protocol is working effectively. This crew member was never in touch with any crew, guest or anyone else for that matter, as she tested positive at the end of her 14-day isolation period that all crew go through before - if they test negative at the PCR test - they join the rest of the crew. As a reminder, this is the third test. Prior to this, every crew member goes through an initial test before leaving their country of origin and travel by charter with other fellow crew members to the embarkation port. There, all crew go through a second test then go into 14-day isolation prior to the third test. Each of the three tests must be negative for the crew member to move to the next phase of screening." 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cruiser 6143 Posted September 10, 2020 #7 Share Posted September 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cruise Critic Chris said: Hi all - Wanted to let you know that we followed up with MSC on this. Here's what they told us: "This is indeed another proof that our protocol is working effectively. This crew member was never in touch with any crew, guest or anyone else for that matter, as she tested positive at the end of her 14-day isolation period that all crew go through before - if they test negative at the PCR test - they join the rest of the crew. As a reminder, this is the third test. Prior to this, every crew member goes through an initial test before leaving their country of origin and travel by charter with other fellow crew members to the embarkation port. There, all crew go through a second test then go into 14-day isolation prior to the third test. Each of the three tests must be negative for the crew member to move to the next phase of screening." Of course the newspapers didn't bother to get all the facts. They just want to keep everyone living in fear and buying their papers. Bravo, MSC on your protocols which seem to be very effective! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted September 10, 2020 #8 Share Posted September 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Cruise Critic Chris said: Hi all - Wanted to let you know that we followed up with MSC on this. Here's what they told us: "This is indeed another proof that our protocol is working effectively. This crew member was never in touch with any crew, guest or anyone else for that matter, as she tested positive at the end of her 14-day isolation period that all crew go through before - if they test negative at the PCR test - they join the rest of the crew. As a reminder, this is the third test. Prior to this, every crew member goes through an initial test before leaving their country of origin and travel by charter with other fellow crew members to the embarkation port. There, all crew go through a second test then go into 14-day isolation prior to the third test. Each of the three tests must be negative for the crew member to move to the next phase of screening." Thanks. Facts are very informative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmas gran Posted September 10, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Thanks for the information/ update and it’s great news re the protocols. Liz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 10, 2020 #10 Share Posted September 10, 2020 It seems the crew member was onboard the ship and was taken away by Ambulance, it is good news that the system is working well but at some point there would have to be contact with a crew member in order to carry out the tests. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted September 10, 2020 #11 Share Posted September 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, sidari said: It seems the crew member was onboard the ship and was taken away by Ambulance, it is good news that the system is working well but at some point there would have to be contact with a crew member in order to carry out the tests. Sure, there is also contact with the terminal crew members performing the C19 tests. Someone has to perform the tests. I guess I don't understand what "there would have to be contact" means; should that person be considered quarantined too? From the videos and reports, those conducting the tests look protected similarly to those that have performed the tests at most testing sites globally? Or, am I missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 10, 2020 #12 Share Posted September 10, 2020 MSC said there was No contact with the person concerned! There has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoBadKnees Posted September 10, 2020 #13 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) Where, when and how do the authorities think she contracted the virus? Edited September 10, 2020 by TwoBadKnees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8tor Posted September 11, 2020 #14 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 hours ago, sidari said: MSC said there was No contact with the person concerned! There has to be. I believe "No Contact" actually means "no UNPROTECTED contact." If a person is wearing full PPE (and I'm pretty sure those performing COVID testing were), then that is not considered contact. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcell Posted September 11, 2020 #15 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Fear sells news. Too bad the article doesn't have a comment section. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riredsox Posted September 11, 2020 #16 Share Posted September 11, 2020 19 hours ago, Happy Cruiser 6143 said: Of course the newspapers didn't bother to get all the facts. They just want to keep everyone living in fear and buying their papers. Bravo, MSC on your protocols which seem to be very effective! Actually the article never stated she was onboard. It said after the long testing protocol she tested positive at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisequeen4ever Posted September 11, 2020 #17 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Correct me if I’m wrong with this line of thinking...It seems to me she had to have contracted it either the day she arrived on the flight to Europe or once onboard in order to test negative twice and then test positive after 2 whole weeks onboard. To me, that would make me nervous someone had Covid at some point and gave it to her on the chartered flight or once onboard. I mean, if within the 2 week window to develop symptoms, she was either alone or with other crew members only, surely someone else had to have had it, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slei15 Posted September 11, 2020 #18 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that the two week quarantine is happening on shore, not on the ship. They do not get to board until after the two weeks and the final negative test. If that's the case, she could have caught it from someone in the hotel, etc. during quarantine, or during the travel to the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnocket Posted September 11, 2020 #19 Share Posted September 11, 2020 20 hours ago, sidari said: It seems the crew member was onboard the ship and was taken away by Ambulance, it is good news that the system is working well but at some point there would have to be contact with a crew member in order to carry out the tests. Well MSC said this, so someone isn't telling the truth...... This crew member was never in touch with any crew, guest or anyone else for that matter, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruisergal1208 Posted September 11, 2020 #20 Share Posted September 11, 2020 A crew member that I correspond with is now on Grandiosa and the process was the swabs in terminal before boarding then they were quarantined in a guest cabin for 14 days. Meals were served to them in the cabin and temps taken 2x daily as well as more swabs for testing. Only after staying negative for those 14 days were they allowed to go to work. So it seems the lady that tested positive was already under the 14 day quarantine on the ship which means she was isolated from all others on the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare travelberlin Posted September 13, 2020 #21 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 9:21 PM, Cruisergal1208 said: A crew member that I correspond with is now on Grandiosa and the process was the swabs in terminal before boarding then they were quarantined in a guest cabin for 14 days. Meals were served to them in the cabin and temps taken 2x daily as well as more swabs for testing. Only after staying negative for those 14 days were they allowed to go to work. So it seems the lady that tested positive was already under the 14 day quarantine on the ship which means she was isolated from all others on the ship. This is how I understood also. The crew member was on board although isolated. I would like to know if in those cases there is absolute security that no aerosols transmission through air conditioning takes place. How do they avoid this type of transmission? Ivi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart2468 Posted September 13, 2020 #22 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Well Grandiosa set sail tonight bang on time. So whatever the situation, it hasn't stopped her cruising. I watched her depart from the hot tub at the top of the Grand Hotel Savoia. Complete with a glass of prosecco. Only thing to beat that would have been on board. Alas, I'm British and I am under an embargo 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofarfromthesea Posted September 13, 2020 #23 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 3:50 PM, sidari said: It seems the crew member was onboard the ship and was taken away by Ambulance, it is good news that the system is working well but at some point there would have to be contact with a crew member in order to carry out the tests. ? Are you saying the testing is done by crew members? I'd have assumed there is a separate medical team. As for the ambulance, do you have a link, as this information was not in the MSC statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toofarfromthesea Posted September 13, 2020 #24 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 1:54 PM, Cruise Critic Chris said: Hi all - Wanted to let you know that we followed up with MSC on this. Here's what they told us: "This is indeed another proof that our protocol is working effectively. This crew member was never in touch with any crew, guest or anyone else for that matter, as she tested positive at the end of her 14-day isolation period that all crew go through before - if they test negative at the PCR test - they join the rest of the crew. As a reminder, this is the third test. Prior to this, every crew member goes through an initial test before leaving their country of origin and travel by charter with other fellow crew members to the embarkation port. There, all crew go through a second test then go into 14-day isolation prior to the third test. Each of the three tests must be negative for the crew member to move to the next phase of screening." Thanks for this. It makes me more hopeful about my 11/7/2020 cruise out of Miami. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted September 14, 2020 #25 Share Posted September 14, 2020 It looks like MSC has the right protocols. Now its up to other lines to follow. I'm booked on the Seashore for Dec,2021, and hope we get to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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