Rare Woobstr112G Posted April 21, 2021 #1 Share Posted April 21, 2021 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notices.html Seems like the CDC has rated all of the Caribbean countries, that cruise lines said they were going to sail to, as Level 4 “Do Not Visit” locations. I wonder if airline bans are next..... Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare azbirdmom Posted April 21, 2021 #2 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Not quite all, there are quite a few islands in the Caribbean in the other categories. St. Maarten is one that RCI will be sailing from and they are in the third category. The situation still isn't optimal for traveling just yet sad to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tak8 Posted April 21, 2021 #3 Share Posted April 21, 2021 British Virgin Islands is a level 1. I'd love to get back to Jost. Tortola is on my potential New Year's cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted April 21, 2021 #4 Share Posted April 21, 2021 What a coincidence that the islands the cruise ships serve are rated 4. The CDC strikes again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted April 21, 2021 #5 Share Posted April 21, 2021 17 minutes ago, deliver42 said: What a coincidence that the islands the cruise ships serve are rated 4. The CDC strikes again. It's not as if the CDC is specifically targeting islands served by cruise ships. I mean, if you look at the map, there are nearly 150 countries accounting for most of the world that are currently rated as Level 4. That includes, all of Europe, Canada, and most of Latin America. The advice is basically: now is not a good time for international travel. I would tend to agree! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milolii Posted April 21, 2021 #6 Share Posted April 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, westcoaster said: It's not as if the CDC is specifically targeting islands served by cruise ships. I mean, if you look at the map, there are nearly 150 countries accounting for most of the world that are currently rated as Level 4. That includes, all of Europe, Canada, and most of Latin America. The advice is basically: now is not a good time for international travel. I would tend to agree! Yep, it’s many countries, not just the Caribbean. My hopeful summer plans include 3 countries on that list which are not in the Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srpilo Posted April 21, 2021 #7 Share Posted April 21, 2021 ??? They have Israel and the UK as level 4 - They both have a less than 1% infection rate, and lead the WORLD in vaccination rates. (??????) Leads me to wonder how recent or how accurate these CDC lists truly are ? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franktown Posted April 22, 2021 #8 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Have a friend that lives part time in Jamaica and he says in the town where he stays when in Jamaica out of around 1100 people he and a few government officials are the only ones vaccinated. He was vaccinated when he was home in Virginia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted April 22, 2021 #9 Share Posted April 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, srpilo said: ??? They have Israel and the UK as level 4 - They both have a less than 1% infection rate, and lead the WORLD in vaccination rates. (??????) Leads me to wonder how recent or how accurate these CDC lists truly are ? The CDC lists are accurate enough and not based on the criteria you identified. The UK has been bumping along at about 45 cases per million (4.5 cases per 100,000) for last 28 days. So, they have just over 100 cases per 100,000 over the trailing 28 day period.... just enough to put them in Level 4. Other countries, like Canada, would be at Level 21 or so right now but the CDC hasn’t bothered going there.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted April 22, 2021 #10 Share Posted April 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Woobstr112G said: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notices.html Seems like the CDC has rated all of the Caribbean countries, that cruise lines said they were going to sail to, as Level 4 “Do Not Visit” locations. I wonder if airline bans are next..... Even if Covid-19 infections are becoming less of a problem where you live, that is not true around the globe. Last week saw the highest number of new infections worldwide for any week since the pandemic began. Let's face it, it is not very safe regarding Covid-19 in many areas of the world. https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/europe/who-global-covid-cases-rise-intl/index.html In India it is so bad that in some hospitals Covid-19 patients must share a bed. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-hospital/two-to-a-bed-in-delhi-hospital-as-indias-covid-crisis-spirals-idINKBN2C21OT 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted April 22, 2021 #11 Share Posted April 22, 2021 13 hours ago, deliver42 said: What a coincidence that the islands the cruise ships serve are rated 4. The CDC strikes again. While it's probably NOT the case, but it sure feels like the CDC is making sure cruising won't come back any time soon. As I said elsewhere, it feels like a rebuttal to the cruise lines' demands to restart. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted April 22, 2021 #12 Share Posted April 22, 2021 12 hours ago, d9704011 said: The CDC lists are accurate enough and not based on the criteria you identified. The UK has been bumping along at about 45 cases per million (4.5 cases per 100,000) for last 28 days. So, they have just over 100 cases per 100,000 over the trailing 28 day period.... just enough to put them in Level 4. Other countries, like Canada, would be at Level 21 or so right now but the CDC hasn’t bothered going there.... We shouldn't travel to the US then, their incidence rate is extremely high. (Note the sarcasm, please.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmjc2 Posted April 22, 2021 #13 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Daughter leaves for UK on Sunday. If the CDC has given UK a level 4 then her travel insurance will be void. Just great!!! She has to jump through enough hoops as it is and she is fully vaccinated! Test before she goes--2 tests in the UK while in a 10 day quarantine Test before she returns home! All adding another $300.00 to her trip cost! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted April 22, 2021 #14 Share Posted April 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, gmjc2 said: Daughter leaves for UK on Sunday. If the CDC has given UK a level 4 then her travel insurance will be void. Just great!!! She has to jump through enough hoops as it is and she is fully vaccinated! Test before she goes--2 tests in the UK while in a 10 day quarantine Test before she returns home! All adding another $300.00 to her trip cost! I’d seriously consider canceling my plans if I were facing those travel circumstances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmjc2 Posted April 22, 2021 #15 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Just now, d9704011 said: I’d seriously consider canceling my plans if I were facing those travel circumstances. Unfortunately it is not for fun. She has to visit with her 99 yr old Grandmother who is not well. Daughter has not been able to see her in almost 2 years thanks to Mr. Covid! She needs to be there. I went in Feb myself. I was lucky that the mandated 2 tests while in quarantine did not start till the day after I returned from my Dad's funeral. It has not been a good start to 2021 for my family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted April 22, 2021 #16 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, gmjc2 said: 2 tests while in quarantine self-quarantine ? monitored ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmjc2 Posted April 22, 2021 #17 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 minute ago, voljeep said: self-quarantine ? monitored ? Self if from USA. If from a list of UK determined RED countries then it requires a 10 day monitored quarantined hotel stay plus the tests! At a cost of $1200.00. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted April 22, 2021 #18 Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, gmjc2 said: Self if from USA. If from a list of UK determined RED countries then it requires a 10 day monitored quarantined hotel stay plus the tests! At a cost of $1200.00. Prince Harry did 5 day in UK, reduced for certain reason. Does that apply to your daughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted April 22, 2021 #19 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, K.T.B. said: We shouldn't travel to the US then, their incidence rate is extremely high. (Note the sarcasm, please.) No we should not. Nor should we be widely traveling inside the US at current case counts. Funny thing is while intended to be sarcastic it was valid. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted April 22, 2021 #20 Share Posted April 22, 2021 More stuff you can't make up. They're actually telling people fleeing from a volcanic eruption to be careful of Covid on cruise ships (even though they're basing that on info from last spring).... Read the portion highlighted in blue. I can't even believe the irony here... 🤷♂️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkinmr Posted April 22, 2021 #21 Share Posted April 22, 2021 18 hours ago, deliver42 said: What a coincidence that the islands the cruise ships serve are rated 4. The CDC strikes again. No, it's not some nefarious plot by the CDC. Most of the islands rated a Level 4 have been at that rating for some time. In that regard it is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted April 22, 2021 #22 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I posted this elsewhere, but here are the incidence rates: LINK IMO, it's impossible to get below 100 cases per 100,000 for the majority of countries. It will never be that way. Covid is here to stay, we just need to be vaccinated to help slow the spread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkinmr Posted April 22, 2021 #23 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: More stuff you can't make up. They're actually telling people fleeing from a volcanic eruption to be careful of Covid on cruise ships (even though they're basing that on info from last spring).... Read the portion highlighted in blue. I can't even believe the irony here... 🤷♂️ Some people just like to stir the pot. This alert was issued a week ago and had everything to do with putting people on notice of the CDC guidance regarding cruise ships, including testing and quarantine recommendations. The recommendations were included by the embassy for butt-covering purposes, as would be done by any government agency. Edited April 22, 2021 by harkinmr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmjc2 Posted April 22, 2021 #24 Share Posted April 22, 2021 5 hours ago, dog said: Prince Harry did 5 day in UK, reduced for certain reason. Does that apply to your daughter? He should have had to quarantine like everyone else. He could get special permission to attend the funeral as I did in Feb. Then he should have immediately returned to his quarantine. We even had to have a virtual wake!! The 5 day early release is available but the rules make it not too much help. The two tests still have to be administered on day 2 and day 8 so another is added at day 5 if you so chose. The only advantage is in being released at day 7 (after the 5 day results have come back negative) instead of day 10. As it costs another $100.00 for the extra test it is only worth it if you need to move on earlier. In my Daughter's case she is there to spend time with her Grandmother who is a shut in any way so the 10 days is okay for her. It is complicated and costly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted April 22, 2021 #25 Share Posted April 22, 2021 5 hours ago, K.T.B. said: I posted this elsewhere, but here are the incidence rates: LINK IMO, it's impossible to get below 100 cases per 100,000 for the majority of countries. It will never be that way. Covid is here to stay, we just need to be vaccinated to help slow the spread. Current infection rate in the UK is 24.3 per 100, 000, and the UK tests more people than most countries. I am totally bemused why the US has put the UK on the "red" list, when cases in the US are far higher than in the UK. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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