Ptroxx Posted May 26, 2022 #26 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Saab4444 said: One thy bring aboard? Yes. Many times they will have a pilot boat bring aboard a local captain to bring ship in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted May 26, 2022 #27 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, Ptroxx said: Yes. Many times they will have a pilot boat bring aboard a local captain to bring ship in. Yes, but they rarely drive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 26, 2022 #28 Share Posted May 26, 2022 It's as if they put it in "park assist" mode and the GPS was 100 feet off. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptroxx Posted May 26, 2022 #29 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Yes, but they rarely drive I did not know that. Then what’s the purpose of bringing one aboard? just to show the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doppelganger2621 Posted May 26, 2022 #30 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Ptroxx said: I did not know that. Then what’s the purpose of bringing one aboard? just to show the way? Expert in the port, changes in sandbars, currents, etc. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted May 26, 2022 #31 Share Posted May 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ptroxx said: I did not know that. Then what’s the purpose of bringing one aboard? just to show the way? Cash cow for the port. 😉 Pilots are ridiculously well paid. But mainly there to advise And ship's Captain's are not keen on relinquishing control anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruiselvr04 Posted May 26, 2022 #32 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Ouch! Hopefully just cosmetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 26, 2022 #33 Share Posted May 26, 2022 This is twice in two weeks. RC Corporate must not be too pleased right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_trisha Posted May 26, 2022 #34 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Been looking forward to my cruise on Sunday. Hopefully it still sails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted May 26, 2022 #35 Share Posted May 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ptroxx said: I did not know that. Then what’s the purpose of bringing one aboard? just to show the way? The pilot is just an advisor for the local waterways. Do you really think they bring in local guys who are capable of driving all those different mighty ships?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaHunt Posted May 26, 2022 #36 Share Posted May 26, 2022 3 hours ago, HicksRA said: And Carnival Freedom caught on fire……. 😳 And an exterior painting project on the Carnival Magic made people sick enough for the Coast Guard to investigate (so if trouble always comes in threes, that makes 3 ships and we should be all done now (knock on driftwood LOL): https://www.wtkr.com/news/coast-guard-looks-into-carnival-cruise-ship-passengers-feeling-sick-from-fumes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted May 26, 2022 #37 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: That'd be some pretty poor captaining at that point to back into those. Hitting from the side at least would be somewhat explainable (winds, current, etc) It absolutely looks like a wind issue from the side while approaching the pier from behind so I would not make such judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 26, 2022 #38 Share Posted May 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, wayne_trisha said: Been looking forward to my cruise on Sunday. Hopefully it still sails. I would imagine you'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptroxx Posted May 26, 2022 #39 Share Posted May 26, 2022 59 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: The pilot is just an advisor for the local waterways. Do you really think they bring in local guys who are capable of driving all those different mighty ships?? I didn’t know, so yes I did. But now I know different. that’s why they say no questions a dumb question even in our cold age. Lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptroxx Posted May 26, 2022 #40 Share Posted May 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: I would imagine you'll be fine. It sounded bad. here’s a video of the actual hit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagsalong Posted May 26, 2022 #41 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) What a video shot!!!. All speculation is now over. Nice knowing you Captain. Hope you like your new job - or retirement. Edited May 26, 2022 by Tagsalong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise wizard Posted May 26, 2022 #42 Share Posted May 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tagsalong said: What a video shot!!!. All speculation is now over. Nice knowing you Captain. Hope you like your new job - or retirement. I wonder who the Captain was?? Franseco Schettino???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsItTimeToCruiseYet? Posted May 26, 2022 #43 Share Posted May 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, cruise wizard said: I wonder who the Captain was?? Franseco Schettino???? I was on Harmony last week and we had Captain Johnny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilyclub Posted May 26, 2022 #44 Share Posted May 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, IsItTimeToCruiseYet? said: I was on Harmony last week and we had Captain Johnny. Heard it was Captain Patrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted May 26, 2022 #45 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Might be Suspended Captain now until Further Notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine3601 Posted May 26, 2022 #46 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Maybe he had some good "Jamaican" smoke 😁 or rushing to meet up with his guy.🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailor05 Posted May 26, 2022 #47 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Looks like the thrusters weren't on until after they hit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted May 26, 2022 #48 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Saab4444 said: It absolutely looks like a wind issue from the side while approaching the pier from behind so I would not make such judgements. They were 100 feet off course. Wind wouldn't cause that. Plus there was no evidence they even knew they were off course. They plowed right into it. Edited May 26, 2022 by smokeybandit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 26, 2022 #49 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Ptroxx said: Yes. Many times they will have a pilot boat bring aboard a local captain to bring ship in. 4 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Yes, but they rarely drive Actually, they do "drive", if by that you mean they "have the conn" (i.e. give orders). Most places require a pilot by law, and he is given authority to conn the ship by the Captain and by the country. 3 hours ago, Ptroxx said: I did not know that. Then what’s the purpose of bringing one aboard? just to show the way? As a non-employee of the cruise line, the pilot (and they are rarely "Captains") is not allowed to touch any control on the ship. However, the Captain rarely handles the helm or engine telegraph either, except when closely alongside the dock. One person on the bridge "has the conn", meaning that person is allowed to give orders to the bridge crew for steering, propulsion, etc. The pilot and Captain typically work together, as the pilot has local knowledge of the harbor, and the Captain has the knowledge of the ship and its handling characteristics. The Captain has the responsibility, but whoever has the conn has the authority. This is just like when the Captain is not on the bridge while underway, the officer of the watch "has the conn" and the authority to handle the ship. 3 hours ago, doppelganger2621 said: Expert in the port, changes in sandbars, currents, etc. 3 hours ago, Saab4444 said: The pilot is just an advisor for the local waterways. Do you really think they bring in local guys who are capable of driving all those different mighty ships?? Again, many, many pilots "drive" ships they are not familiar with in all sorts of situations. If the Captain feels the pilot is in error, they can discuss it if there is time, or the Captain can relieve the pilot of the conn and assume it himself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyancho Posted May 26, 2022 #50 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Saab4444 said: One thy bring aboard? Harbor pilot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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