time4u2go Posted January 11, 2019 #276 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, mtsublueraider said: We are not newbies and can honestly say while I’m happy with what RCL has done with the situation... and I have no doubt they mean well with their offer... that I’d have almost rather had a voucher for a 7 night cruise or the choice of a refund. Only reason I say that is that we got such a great deal on this trip with the kids sail free promotion that my refunded fare won’t pay for another cruise like we were supposed to have. Bratty? Maybe. But I can see the point. And yes my two kids were throwing up at 5am this morning , but everyone has been incredible. Fair point. But at the same time, offering a voucher for a 7 night cruise would be tricky for the cruise line. Would it be good on any 7 night cruise, on any ship, anywhere in the world, any time of the year? If it's limited to just Western Caribbean, would it only be good on Oasis? If it's limited to Western Caribbean on Oasis, would it be good any time of the year? I'm not disagreeing with your perspective, but there's obviously lots of considerations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBE4 Posted January 11, 2019 #277 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, mtsublueraider said: We are not newbies and can honestly say while I’m happy with what RCL has done with the situation... and I have no doubt they mean well with their offer... that I’d have almost rather had a voucher for a 7 night cruise or the choice of a refund. Only reason I say that is that we got such a great deal on this trip with the kids sail free promotion that my refunded fare won’t pay for another cruise like we were supposed to have. Bratty? Maybe. But I can see the point. And yes my two kids were throwing up at 5am this morning , but everyone has been incredible. You do have a valid point. I'm sure most would feel the same way if they were in the same situation. But as Time4u2Go pointed out - and as you probably know - the price of a 7 day cruise can vary widely based on the time of year, even on the same ship/itinerary. The voucher would probably have so many restrictions attached as to be useless. Hopefully Royal will be running another KSF sale soon that fits your budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecslady Posted January 11, 2019 #278 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Does anyone onboard know how many crew are affected? That may have influenced their decision to return early as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted January 11, 2019 #279 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, ecslady said: Does anyone onboard know how many crew are affected? That may have influenced their decision to return early as well. According to CDC, 11, whenever this was published: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/outbreak/2019/Oasis_of_the_Seas_1-6.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 11, 2019 #280 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, ecslady said: Does anyone onboard know how many crew are affected? That may have influenced their decision to return early as well. I think CDC reported 11 crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mtsublueraider Posted January 11, 2019 #281 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, time4u2go said: According to CDC, 11, whenever this was published: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/outbreak/2019/Oasis_of_the_Seas_1-6.html Gosh I find that so hard to believe. They’ve been AMAZING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecslady Posted January 11, 2019 #282 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, time4u2go said: According to CDC, 11, whenever this was published: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/outbreak/2019/Oasis_of_the_Seas_1-6.html And I see the percentage of passengers has gone up from what I read earlier. That report says 4.23%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mtsublueraider Posted January 11, 2019 #283 Share Posted January 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, time4u2go said: Fair point. But at the same time, offering a voucher for a 7 night cruise would be tricky for the cruise line. Would it be good on any 7 night cruise, on any ship, anywhere in the world, any time of the year? If it's limited to just Western Caribbean, would it only be good on Oasis? If it's limited to Western Caribbean on Oasis, would it be good any time of the year? I'm not disagreeing with your perspective, but there's obviously lots of considerations. Very valid. I guess my eyes are shaded because we can drive to the port. I just want the same exact itinerary on the same boat as a do-over. All being said we will try again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted January 11, 2019 #284 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Let's all keep in mind the crew, staff, officers, and those doing B2B will remain on the ship so not everyone who has been exposed to Noro will be leaving the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinaInTexas Posted January 11, 2019 #285 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Will be on the 1/20/19 sailing. Read thru everything because Norovirus was pretty unfamiliar to me, knew next nothing about it actually. Not too worried, havent been sick enough to miss work in like 25 years, will take all the normal precautions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted January 11, 2019 #286 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Etta1213 said: I wonder if somebody in medical analyzes a patient specimen under a microscope, or performs some other lab test, before pronouncing the illness as Noro virus?? Yes, it used to be that samples were collected and sent to the CDC for analysis, but now there are "field" tests for noro virus that only take minutes to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted January 11, 2019 #287 Share Posted January 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, OCruisers said: Let's all keep in mind the crew, staff, officers, and those doing B2B will remain on the ship so not everyone who has been exposed to Noro will be leaving the ship. How can they have the B2B cruisers stay on board when ship needs to have deep cleaning? Biker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 11, 2019 #288 Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, BEENSAILING said: How can they have the B2B cruisers stay on board when ship needs to have deep cleaning? Biker? They probably want them off ASAP so the crew can start the cleaning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 11, 2019 #289 Share Posted January 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, OCruisers said: Let's all keep in mind the crew, staff, officers, and those doing B2B will remain on the ship so not everyone who has been exposed to Noro will be leaving the ship. The ship is returning a day early. My guess is that B2B will be required to disembark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Chicken Posted January 11, 2019 #290 Share Posted January 11, 2019 On Oasis now. All 3 of us were sick beginning Tuesday evening. 24 hours of cabin quarantine. It became clear midday yesterday that things were escalating. We have all bounced back and had dinner in the MDR tonight. Doing our best to chalk it up to bad luck and not let it ruin the week. The full refund is nice too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted January 11, 2019 #291 Share Posted January 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: They probably want them off ASAP so the crew can start the cleaning. I cannot imagine letting B2B cruisers stay on... anyone on board now know how this is being handled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted January 11, 2019 #292 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, BEENSAILING said: I cannot imagine letting B2B cruisers stay on... anyone on board now know how this is being handled? I think someone already mentioned it- RCI is putting B2Bers up at a hotel for Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted January 11, 2019 #293 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Whatever, the B2B folks even if they are totally off the ship for a while will be returning to the ship for the next sailing and the crew, staff, and officers will also be on the next sailing. Just saying ... many who have been exposed to Noro will be on the next sailing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted January 11, 2019 #294 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Biker19 said: I think someone already mentioned it- RCI is putting B2Bers up at a hotel for Saturday night. Thanks Biker. I must have missed that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted January 11, 2019 #295 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, OCruisers said: Let's all keep in mind the crew, staff, officers, and those doing B2B will remain on the ship so not everyone who has been exposed to Noro will be leaving the ship. Same with the crew members but I'm sure Royal is addressing this. No need to add to the drama 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasreb Posted January 11, 2019 #296 Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Yes, it used to be that samples were collected and sent to the CDC for analysis, but now there are "field" tests for noro virus that only take minutes to do. Hmmm... that CDC VSP report listed cause as unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader0108598 Posted January 11, 2019 #297 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, OCruisers said: Whatever, the B2B folks even if they are totally off the ship for a while will be returning to the ship for the next sailing and the crew, staff, and officers will also be on the next sailing. Just saying ... many who have been exposed to Noro will be on the next sailing. After they stay in a hotel in the area!! lol So it begins spreading like wildfire. It is not the cruiselines fault. Edited January 11, 2019 by Reader0108598 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalteseMama2 Posted January 11, 2019 #298 Share Posted January 11, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 6:46 PM, John&LaLa said: Well, I apparently have it. Probably Karma for posting the puke picture. Sorry to hear this! Hope you recover quickly! Personally, I would have no problem getting on a ship after a outbreak. DH and I are vigilant about hand washing and using common sense to stay healthy when cruising. We’ve never been sick, but we are aware there is no way to guarantee it won’t happen in the future. He actually got norovirus a few years back when it hit the campus of VaTech. We still aren’t sure how he was exposed, but he became very ill very quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cementhands Posted January 11, 2019 #299 Share Posted January 11, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 8:39 PM, nbsjcruiser said: I go to my Doctor pre-cruise and get the meds for vomiting and diarrhea and bring them with me. If something hits, we're prepared. People who really get sick usually dehydrate so putting a plug in whatever end necessary as quickly as possible ensures a quick recovery. In case you're curious, the meds I bring are Lomotil (for the trots) and Histantil for vomiting. We started bringing these meds after our son picked up Noro on a plane on our way to Florida to take a cruise. Never seen someone so sick tbh and had we had these meds we would have avoided 3 trips to the hospital and $15K in medical bills < - insurance paid this. Good to know. Cruise critic has valuable information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starry Eyes Posted January 11, 2019 #300 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, OCruisers said: Whatever, the B2B folks even if they are totally off the ship for a while will be returning to the ship for the next sailing and the crew, staff, and officers will also be on the next sailing. Just saying ... many who have been exposed to Noro will be on the next sailing. Of course staff crew and officers have potentially been exposed and will be on the ship next sailing. They are motivated, responsible adults who are diligent about hygiene, especially in the days since the outbreak has become apparent. So their odds of contracting the illness are lower than passengers (who include children and less careful adults...we see those passenger who fail to wash their hands or barely rinse them in restrooms). Furthermore, if crew, staff or officier do become ill, they will report the illness and comply with quarantine (again in contrast with some passengers who violate quarantine and spread the illness). Edited January 11, 2019 by Starry Eyes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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