Carnival to start select cruises on August 1 - Will Royal follow suit?

[zekekelso]

55 minutes ago, rimmit said:

CDC says that in response to this announcement they have not discussed timeline for cruise lines to return to operations.

 

Psst. Carnival. Quick tip. Pissing of the CDC is something you really want to avoid. Especially as they aren't exactly your biggest fans at the moment. I'm really hoping the CDC was aware this announcement was coming and was OK with it. 

[datolim]

There are a number of issues that still need to be sorted out.

First is the CDC 'no-sail' order which could be extended if full compliance is not yet implemented.

 

CDC has said that cruise lines are the 'incubator of the virus'. CEO admits that they are venues for 'social gathering' which is the opposite of 'social distancing'.

He did admit that their plan depends on how the virus situation is evolving and have to wait and see.

According to him Carnival have submitted their plans for the 'hospital ships' to the CDC. But this is only one of many other demands from the CDC. The ship's clinic need to be renovated to a mini-hospital is some of the other things to be implemented.  Full implementation of CDC order is something else.  It would take time.

 

It looks to me that he is floating the trial ballon here of opening with 8 ships on Aug 1. This is a fraction of the total number of ships that they have. 

So don't hold your breath for the cruise industry coming back from Aug !.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/04/14/carnival-ceo-on-the-cruise-industry-in-the-age-of-pandemics.html

Edited May 5, 2020 by datolim
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[mek]

17 hours ago, sdrocks said:

Would really like to feel comfortable booking a cruise for next year orin 2022, but guess will wait a little longer to

see how this virus messes things up.  

They're not getting any more of my $'s until cruising starts back up and I'm satisfied with how it is being handled.  Royal already has my money for 2 cruises this year - one was cancelled by them and I should be receiving a credit back for that and then I have a November Oasis cruise booked, and who knows what will happen with that one.

 

[Milwaukee Eight]

16 hours ago, Joseph2017China said:

 

Florida is in phase 1.  

 

Not all of Florida. South Florida hasn’t been opened up. Two ports come to mind. Miami and Fort Lauderdale 

[PhillyFan33579]

44 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Not all of Florida. South Florida hasn’t been opened up. Two ports come to mind. Miami and Fort Lauderdale 

Even in the Tampa area where I live a lot of restaurants and stores have decided to remain closed, even though they are now allowed to open with several restrictions.  

[Jimbo]

Pretty sure Carnival will get their bubble burst before August 1st. That is just an irrational decision on their part at this time.

Edited May 5, 2020 by Jimbo

[leisuretraveler223]

This whole approach is pure fantasy. Without specific states having established guidelines, it's a pipe dream.

 

Right now, there are restrictions on who can even reserve a hotel room. 

 

It's suspected many states will fo through the summer with restrictions on gatherings of more than 50 people, but they think they can get a couple thousand on a ship in port?

 

It's just nonsensical.

[johnjen]

19 hours ago, rtazz17 said:

Lol,everyone here loves to give bad news to each other... “your cruise wont sail”,”what planet are you from thinking your cruise will sail”.... ahhh the entertainment

It's that "Hi, I'm from JOISEY" attitude....I wouldn't even sail from there again let alone "buy a bridge" there.....

[johnjen]

14 hours ago, Jesseslola2 said:

How do they implement social distancing on the ship? That, I want to see!

and THAT is on MY mind. I don't think anyone of us wants to experience a vacay where we are constantly reminded about social distancing, wearing a mask at the buffet, having to find out when it is ok to remove the mask at the dinner table, or being constantly enforced where and when to walk....it'll be their own undoing.

[TYMAN]

I wear a mask 14 hours a day in our hospital, I would be more than happy to wear one while wandering the ship....because I would be on a cruise!! Casino would seem to be less smokey, I wouldn't have to see the grouchy faces on folks cause they couldn't get on the first elevator, etc etc. 

I would take it off to eat, sleep, and most importantly, drink! Cheers! 

[The Grumpus]

The company said any return to service would include "enhanced operational protocols and social gatherings guidelines."

 

I'll be interested to hear about these protocols and guidelines to minimize any chance of an outbreak.  One person ended up getting over 800 people infected on Diamond Princess, many of which were infected after everyone was quarantined to their staterooms.  If they really do restart August 1st, it's probably going to take a few months of virus-free sailings to prove to me cruising is going to work when there is no vaccine.  But if they get to sailing and within weeks there are sick passengers and quarantined ships with no ports taking them back, then this rush to restart could very well sink the entire cruise industry for a very long time.  I personally think the states allowing restaurants and bars to reopen over the last week and coming days are our guinea pigs.  If it works for them, and there's no "second wave" caused by the rush to reopen, then there's a chance this might work.

[leisuretraveler223]

45 minutes ago, johnjen said:

wearing a mask at the buffet

 

Buffets are D.E.A.D.  

[Liljo22]

15 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

It’s the glass half empty vs the glass half full.

 

They can say they are resuming cruising Aug 1 or they can say they are cancelling all cruises until  July 31.....Corporate PR and doublespeak at its finest. 

 

Every cruise line is cancelling cruises up to a certain date and stating they plan on resuming on the next day.  Carnival is actually talking about phased openings and listing actual ports and ships that they are planning on starting back up.  There was no reason for Carnival to state this unless there is an actual plan to restart.  

[Liljo22]

4 hours ago, leisuretraveler223 said:

This whole approach is pure fantasy. Without specific states having established guidelines, it's a pipe dream.

 

Right now, there are restrictions on who can even reserve a hotel room. 

 

It's suspected many states will fo through the summer with restrictions on gatherings of more than 50 people, but they think they can get a couple thousand on a ship in port?

 

It's just nonsensical.

If you look at the ports they are planning on restarting from, its Texas and Florida.  Both states have started to open back up.  This was Galveston this weekend.

 

[Ourusualbeach]

13 minutes ago, Liljo22 said:

 

Every cruise line is cancelling cruises up to a certain date and stating they plan on resuming on the next day.  Carnival is actually talking about phased openings and listing actual ports and ships that they are planning on starting back up.  There was no reason for Carnival to state this unless there is an actual plan to restart.  

Every cruise line has a plan to restart, whether it will actually happen on the dates they say is beyond their control right now.

[Jimbo]

12 minutes ago, Liljo22 said:

If you look at the ports they are planning on restarting from, its Texas and Florida.  Both states have started to open back up.  This was Galveston this weekend.

 

Pretty sure you will see case counts and deaths go up in both those areas soon too. Sad but probably true. Only time will tell.

[zekekelso]

1 hour ago, leisuretraveler223 said:

 

Buffets are D.E.A.D.  

 

Delightful eating and drinking?

[zekekelso]

19 minutes ago, Liljo22 said:

This was Galveston this weekend.

 

I can't decide if the guy with "chopper bars" on his bicycle is cool or pathetic. 

[LoisGriffin1]

One of the biggest factors in getting restarted is the crew being able to fly in. Right now many countries have travel bans and I believe the US has bans on certain countries too. 

 

it’s going to take some time to get full crews back and the cruise lines are going to rely on travel bans being lifted.

[Biker19]

17 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

Pretty sure you will see case counts and deaths go up in both those areas soon too.

And if/when it doesn't?

[keishashadow]

On 5/4/2020 at 12:44 PM, sandebeach said:

Yes I agree, perhaps the 3-4 days cruises to CocoCay out of Port Canaveral and maybe Miami or Ft. Lauderdale. 

I’m booked NR on 8/7. 
 

Cancelled the 3rd person & applied DP to cruise balance

 

then downgraded all the way to GTY inside for the 2 of us.
 

Was quoted a fare $200 less than current then best rate (military and variation of BOGO 60% plus a $25 flash sale).
 

called for 3rd time and it was acknowledged as a pricing mistake they are honoring (probably hoping for any Live ones on sailing lol) 
 

so, I gave them another $43 & we called it final Payment.  Not doing that dance, will take it as FCC or cancel If they extend Non operational dates   Better than stranding the NR DP 

Edited May 5, 2020 by keishashadow

[rimmit]

1 hour ago, Liljo22 said:

 

Every cruise line is cancelling cruises up to a certain date and stating they plan on resuming on the next day.  Carnival is actually talking about phased openings and listing actual ports and ships that they are planning on starting back up.  There was no reason for Carnival to state this unless there is an actual plan to restart.  

The plan is irrelevant In the US until the CDC gives an ok, and per the CDC they have not talked to any cruise line about resumption of cruises.  Until they can get an OK on the plan from the CDC it will not matter.

[Jimbo]

2 hours ago, Biker19 said:

And if/when it doesn't?

How can it not..............virus isn't disappearing......

Edited May 5, 2020 by Jimbo

[Jimbo]

2 hours ago, zekekelso said:

 

I can't decide if the guy with "chopper bars" on his bicycle is cool or pathetic. 

It might be  how all Galveston people ride bikes, the guy behind him has the same chopper  handlebars but just not as high.

[EscapeFromConnecticut]

3 hours ago, rimmit said:

The plan is irrelevant In the US until the CDC gives an ok, and per the CDC they have not talked to any cruise line about resumption of cruises.  Until they can get an OK on the plan from the CDC it will not matter.

Amen to that. 
Ridiculous how many people keep falling for the same scam:
  Cruise execs: "We'll sail in May"
  Optimists: "Hooray!! We can take their word to the bank"
  Cruise execs: "Well folks, ah ... make that June"
  Optimists: "Huh? What happened ... well, er, I guess ... Hooray!! We can take their word to the bank"
  Cruise execs: "Hey, we're gonna change that up ... let's say July"
  Optimists: "But ... I still don't have my refund from April? ... eermm, uh, I guess ... Hooray!! We can take their word to the bank"

  Cruise execs: "Great news gang, we're sailing in August"
  Optimists:  Optimists: "Oh no, that's awful ... oops sorry, I mean ... Hooray!! We can take their word to the bank"

Edited May 5, 2020 by EscapeFromConnecticut