firefly333 Posted September 22, 2020 #251 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, molly361 said: Did it say what happens if you test positive and are denied boarding? Do you get your money back or just a FCC? I don't see that part Well since you do your own testing, wouldnt you know the results? Seems like rcl is putting the testing onus on you the pax. Not them. You go get tested and show proof of negative results. Maybe you would know before you board, but agree it doesnt cover positive tests, even though it's you getting them beforehand. Edited September 22, 2020 by firefly333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuCruise Posted September 22, 2020 #252 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Goodtime Cruizin said: SIAP as I have not read all of the responses, but the purpose for teating 5 days prior to the cruise is to stop and prevent people from flying to a port if they test positive. Very true. Makes sense to limit spread on airplanes themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-leg5 Posted September 22, 2020 #253 Share Posted September 22, 2020 23 minutes ago, firefly333 said: Oh I was assuming you meant the free drive thru tests. Should have blocked out my name on that email where I signed up for the rapid tests. Ooops, too late now as someone quoted me. I've decided to just wait it out, and if need be TA can deal with it if I cant do b2b. Shame since was a lot of moving around to book. He deserves the commission and I'm sure I owe him a bucket of drinks. use the report button to ask mods to remove or edit your post and related posts., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted September 22, 2020 #254 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 hours ago, LuCruise said: Very true. Makes sense to limit spread on airplanes themselves. Speaking of airplanes, what are the CDC protocols. Any required tests prior to Pax boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted September 22, 2020 #255 Share Posted September 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, nelblu said: Speaking of airplanes, what are the CDC protocols. Any required tests prior to Pax boarding. Hasn’t been any requirement for the last 7 months, can’t imagine any change to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAMarathoner Posted September 22, 2020 #256 Share Posted September 22, 2020 8 hours ago, kruzinkel said: if you are trying to find a cruise line that will not require masks, you are going to be home for a while. if CDC approves this- it will apply to all the lines. I do not understand why people just can't follow the damm rules. We would be working our way out of this mess if people would just do the right thing Maybe. We have three already paid for for 2021, but will see if these are enforced, and instead get refunds and spend our travel money in states not requiring the damned things that don't work anyway. It's the distancing that is working; casual contact doesn't spread it. ABCNews just reported that 94% of COVID-related deaths are from people who already had morbidity conditions. Doubtful those folks would be cruising anyway. If your BMI is over 40, STAY HOME. That's the biggest risk factor. Your characterization of "the right thing" is misleading, at best. The "right thing" is for adults to do their own research, and then suffer the consequences of their own choices. Your choice is obviously different than mine; you bear those consequences. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cublet Posted September 23, 2020 #257 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Hello, I've only seen one posting from the UK so would like to add this. There were some organisations whose bona fides were obvious that offered private Covid-19 testing - private hospitals, chemists (pharmacists) etc. However these have been told to stop all testing to protect the integrity of the NHS testing service (or such integrity as it had). Some testing, private, is available at airports but the adverts say for essential travellers (business, family crises etc) and not tourists. The governments NHS testing service is for essential workers only and being slowly extended to schools are care homes or those exhibiting symptoms. Alarmingly some websites have sprung-up advertising Covid-19 testing for all, whose bone fides we know not and have no way of determining and the worth of their certificates could quite easily be zero - but if it looks 'official' is whomsoever on the pier checking these things going to know if it's worth anything or is this just a box-ticking exercise? Regards, Cublet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 23, 2020 #258 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 hours ago, WAMarathoner said: The "right thing" is for adults to do their own research, and then suffer the consequences of their own choices. It’s not the right thing to take risks and become infected and then expose healthcare facilities and staff to CV. If you’re willing to die at home, then have at the “right thing”. M8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted September 23, 2020 Author #259 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I was just thinking, if I had shore excursions booked right now or a cruise that was to be sailing in the next 4 months or so, I’d be cancelling them. Get that money back sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted September 23, 2020 #260 Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 hours ago, WAMarathoner said: ABCNews just reported that 94% of COVID-related deaths are from people who already had morbidity conditions. Doubtful those folks would be cruising anyway. Have you ever even been on a cruise? They are FULL of elderly, obese, diabetic, high risk people. And I suspect they comprise a good percentage of the diehards chomping at the bit to get back on a ship. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted September 23, 2020 #261 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, bouhunter said: Have you ever even been on a cruise? They are FULL of elderly, obese, diabetic, high risk people. And I suspect they comprise a good percentage of the diehards chomping at the bit to get back on a ship. Ouch😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted September 23, 2020 #262 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, molly361 said: Ouch😇 Truth sometimes hurts. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D C Posted September 23, 2020 #263 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, bouhunter said: Have you ever even been on a cruise? They are FULL of elderly, obese, diabetic, high risk people. And I suspect they comprise a good percentage of the diehards chomping at the bit to get back on a ship. Nope. Never seen an overweight person on a ship. I suspect that diabetics avoid ships as well. Asthmatics? Definitely won't see them on a cruise ship. Same goes for anyone with heart disease. They're genetically disinclined to cruise, ya know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpluvsdolphins Posted September 23, 2020 #264 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 hours ago, WAMarathoner said: Maybe. We have three already paid for for 2021, but will see if these are enforced, and instead get refunds and spend our travel money in states not requiring the damned things that don't work anyway. It's the distancing that is working; casual contact doesn't spread it. ABCNews just reported that 94% of COVID-related deaths are from people who already had morbidity conditions. Doubtful those folks would be cruising anyway. If your BMI is over 40, STAY HOME. That's the biggest risk factor. Your characterization of "the right thing" is misleading, at best. The "right thing" is for adults to do their own research, and then suffer the consequences of their own choices. Your choice is obviously different than mine; you bear those consequences. Thank you for stating this. The highest risk categories are obesity, overweight(29-49 lbs) diabetics and overweight and on high blood pressure medicine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latserrof Posted September 23, 2020 #265 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 hours ago, WAMarathoner said: ABCNews just reported that 94% of COVID-related deaths are from people who already had morbidity conditions. Doubtful those folks would be cruising anyway. Of course they wouldn't be cruising -- THEY'RE DEAD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAMarathoner Posted September 23, 2020 #266 Share Posted September 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, latserrof said: Of course they wouldn't be cruising -- THEY'RE DEAD! The "folks" referred to here are those "who already ha(ve) morbidity conditions." I'm sorry you didn't grasp that, and have made it more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAMarathoner Posted September 23, 2020 #267 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said: It’s not the right thing to take risks and become infected and then expose healthcare facilities and staff to CV. If you’re willing to die at home, then have at the “right thing”. M8 We're obviously not going to agree, and you should do what your research and comfort level tell you. Here's a start for you, from the NIH whose conclusion is "In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32513410/ The risk of contracting COVID from casual contact is negligible, according to the CDC. "[COVID] spreads mainly among people who are in close contact (within about 6 feet) for a prolonged period.” You should stay home if you are that worried, are sick, or have a BMI>40, We'll be staying home, too, if the cruise lines require us to mask up for the majority of our trip. Because there is no consensus whatsoever, adults need to make their own choices and deal with the consequences of those choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helen haywood Posted September 23, 2020 #268 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, D C said: Nope. Never seen an overweight person on a ship. I suspect that diabetics avoid ships as well. Asthmatics? Definitely won't see them on a cruise ship. Same goes for anyone with heart disease. They're genetically disinclined to cruise, ya know. If you’ve never seen an overweight person on a ship I’d love to sail with you!! I’ve seen countless such people on Carnival, HAL, NCL, MSC, Royal and Celebrity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted September 23, 2020 #269 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Cant imagine why these damn college kids continue to drink/party/sex with one another. 0-19 years 99.997% 20-49 years 99.98% 50-69 years 99.5% 70+ Years 94.6% https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 23, 2020 #270 Share Posted September 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, WAMarathoner said: We're obviously not going to agree, and you should do what your research and comfort level tell you. Here's a start for you, from the NIH whose conclusion is "In summary, all the 455 contacts were excluded from SARS-CoV-2 infection and we conclude that the infectivity of some asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers might be weak." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32513410/ The risk of contracting COVID from casual contact is negligible, according to the CDC. "[COVID] spreads mainly among people who are in close contact (within about 6 feet) for a prolonged period.” You should stay home if you are that worried, are sick, or have a BMI>40, We'll be staying home, too, if the cruise lines require us to mask up for the majority of our trip. Because there is no consensus whatsoever, adults need to make their own choices and deal with the consequences of those choices. I don’t think I have any objection to what you posted here. As it pertains to cruises, if your willing to take that risk, be willing to be confined and quarantined on the ship or in a Royal Medical facility. It’s my hope that the CDC prevents ships with an outbreak onboard to dock and disembark infected or exposed passengers into US Ports. Cruises are not essential business. The ships are not flagged in the US. People choose to holiday/vacation on a cruise. Life would go on without cruises. Might not be as much fun. M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted September 23, 2020 #271 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 hours ago, D C said: Nope. Never seen an overweight person on a ship. I suspect that diabetics avoid ships as well. Asthmatics? Definitely won't see them on a cruise ship. Same goes for anyone with heart disease. They're genetically disinclined to cruise, ya know. Have you ever taken a cruise? LOL You must wear blinders. Please, don't make ridiculous statements. People come on board with luggage, and leave as luggage. Have you ever seen someone who lost weight on a cruise? Yes. The person who lost a limb feeding the sharks. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpluvsdolphins Posted September 23, 2020 #272 Share Posted September 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, Oxo said: Have you ever taken a cruise? LOL You must wear blinders. Please, don't make ridiculous statements. People come on board with luggage, and leave as luggage. Have you ever seen someone who lost weight on a cruise? Yes. The person who lost a limb feeding the sharks. LOL I lose weight on cruises, usually 5-10 pounds in a week to 10 night cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxo Posted September 23, 2020 #273 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, scorpluvsdolphins said: I lose weight on cruises, usually 5-10 pounds in a week to 10 night cruise. Very, very unusual! Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D C Posted September 23, 2020 #274 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Oxo said: Have you ever taken a cruise? LOL You must wear blinders. Please, don't make ridiculous statements. People come on board with luggage, and leave as luggage. Have you ever seen someone who lost weight on a cruise? Yes. The person who lost a limb feeding the sharks. LOL Not enough sarcasm to actually be dripping? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted September 23, 2020 Author #275 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, scorpluvsdolphins said: I lose weight on cruises, usually 5-10 pounds in a week to 10 night cruise. I need a cruise right now to lose the Covid lbs from these last few months. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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