Start of cruising from Sydney & Brisbane?

[NSWP]

2 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

Oops, I posted in the wrong thread.

Go to the naughty corner.😂

[The_Big_M]

17 hours ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

I got the impression you were comparing Taiwan's restart to cruising with Barbados which I think is not a fair comparison since Taiwan is keeping it within a very tight bubble that Barbados cannot. After all Barbados has a tiny population compared to Taiwan. There is no way Barbados could sustain a cruise industry using their population alone so Barbados unlike Taiwan doesn't have the luxury of being in a domestic travel bubble. 

 

Each country has to make decisions appropriate to its situation. Countries with less light can't rely on solar power, there's no point installing heaps of panels just because another does. And in Barbados case if cruising can't be done safely it shouldn't be done at all. Just because they can only do it unsafely isn't a justification to do it.

[drsel]

19 hours ago, By The Bay said:

This was reported after our National Cabinet meeting yesterday:

 

"People may have to show proof they've received a COVID-19 vaccination if they wish to enter Australia." SMH

thanks for the news.

this is exactly what I am hoping to be in place by April 2021

[Docker123]

2 hours ago, drsel said:

thanks for the news.

this is exactly what I am hoping to be in place by April 2021

Please give up on these fantasies.

 

Our Health Minister is talking of the vaccination program available realistically in the latter half of 2021 — if there is one.

 

Once the borders re-open, it will be a selective process. Those countries and regions with limited control will not be invited.

 

[Chiliburn]

2 hours ago, drsel said:

thanks for the news.

this is exactly what I am hoping to be in place by April 2021

There’s 25,000 Australian citizens who are desperate to return to Australia.

They can’t because there’s a quota and it’s not going to change in a hurry.

 

From what I understand,your a American?

Its very unlikely you will be allowed into Australia in another 4 months time.

[getting older slowly]

23 hours ago, By The Bay said:

This was reported after our National Cabinet meeting yesterday:

 

"People may have to show proof they've received a COVID-19 vaccination if they wish to enter Australia." SMH

Could you please post a link to this, have been all over the SMH site adn the Abc site looking for this    thanks Don

[By The Bay]

16 minutes ago, getting older slowly said:

Could you please post a link to this, have been all over the SMH site adn the Abc site looking for this    thanks Don

The quote I provided was in the SMH news email. Here is an extract from the AUSTRALIAN COVID-19 VACCINATION POLICY. Chapter 3, page 6.

 

"While the Australian Government strongly supports immunisation and will run a strong campaign to encourage vaccination, it is not mandatory and individuals may choose not to vaccinate. There may however, be circumstances where the Australian Government and other governments may introduce border entry or re-entry requirements that are conditional on proof of vaccination."

[getting older slowly]

1 minute ago, By The Bay said:

The quote I provided was in the SMH news email. Here is an extract from the AUSTRALIAN COVID-19 VACCINATION POLICY. Chapter 3, page 6.

 

"While the Australian Government strongly supports immunisation and will run a strong campaign to encourage vaccination, it is not mandatory and individuals may choose not to vaccinate. There may however, be circumstances where the Australian Government and other governments may introduce border entry or re-entry requirements that are conditional on proof of vaccination."

 

 

Many Thanks By the Bay... had not seen it.... cheers Don

[OzKiwiJJ]

5 hours ago, drsel said:

thanks for the news.

this is exactly what I am hoping to be in place by April 2021

How many times do we have to tell you that: a) normal cruising will not be resuming in Australia by April 2021

b) Americans will not be permitted into Australia until the US has the pandemic under control, even if a vaccine is available. Vaccines aren't 100% effective so even if you had one that wouldn't automatically qualify you for entry into Australia if the virus was still uncontrolled in your country ie you could still have the potential of transmitting it despite the vaccine.

[lyndarra]

4 hours ago, Chiliburn said:

There’s 25,000 Australian citizens who are desperate to return to Australia.

They can’t because there’s a quota and it’s not going to change in a hurry.

 

From what I understand,your a American?

Its very unlikely you will be allowed into Australia in another 4 months time.

Unless you're an actor coming here to make a movie.😃😮

[ilikeanswers]

2 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

How many times do we have to tell you that: a) normal cruising will not be resuming in Australia by April 2021

b) Americans will not be permitted into Australia until the US has the pandemic under control, even if a vaccine is available. Vaccines aren't 100% effective so even if you had one that wouldn't automatically qualify you for entry into Australia if the virus was still uncontrolled in your country ie you could still have the potential of transmitting it despite the vaccine.

 

To be fair they did say they are hoping not expecting to be allowed in. Nothing wrong with hoping for the best as long as you are prepared for the worst 😉

[OzKiwiJJ]

44 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

To be fair they did say they are hoping not expecting to be allowed in. Nothing wrong with hoping for the best as long as you are prepared for the worst 😉

The problem is that I don't think drsel is preparing for the worst judging by the tone of many the posts they have made.

[NSWP]

48 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

To be fair they did say they are hoping not expecting to be allowed in. Nothing wrong with hoping for the best as long as you are prepared for the worst 😉

Let us allow drsel to have their dreams. But most of us know, the dream is becoming a nightmare.

Edited November 15, 2020 by NSWP

[Aus Traveller]

2 hours ago, lyndarra said:

Unless you're an actor coming here to make a movie.😃😮

The actors all had to go into 14 days' quarantine.

[Aus Traveller]

I feel there is zero chance that an Australian-based cruise will be available in April 2021. In addition to this, it is most likely that the first cruises will be limited to Australians and NZ'ers.

 

We have a P&O cruise booked in August 2021. P&O don't market their cruises anywhere other than Aust and NZ so there is not the issue of international passengers being on board. If the promised vaccine is available for several months prior to August, I feel we have a 50/50 chance of that cruise going ahead. Even so, the government might not allow cruiseships into Australian waters quite that early in the pandemic-recovery process. 

Edited November 15, 2020 by Aus Traveller

[OzKiwiJJ]

I think our governments will want a vaccine to be widely available here before they allow cruising to restart with regular cruise ships, not just the small expedition ships. Thr Ruby Princess debacle is still too fresh in some of their minds. Unfortunately the closed environment of a cruise ship allows the virus to spread with ease, despite the sterling efforts of the crew to sanitise everything possible. Based on the what I've seen in my local community recently there are quite a few people who haven't learnt anything from this pandemic and whom I wouldn't trust to follow the rules on a cruise.

Edited November 15, 2020 by OzKiwiJJ

[drsel]

On 11/15/2020 at 6:39 AM, ilikeanswers said:

 

To be fair they did say they are hoping not expecting to be allowed in. Nothing wrong with hoping for the best as long as you are prepared for the worst 😉

Thanks! You are right.

I am just hoping that my almost free cruises will go ahead as scheduled.

If not, no problem. If Carnival cancels Apr 2021 cruises,  I will shift them to Feb -Mar 2022.

I have nothing to lose, since I havent booked any airfare/hotel,etc

Edited November 17, 2020 by drsel

[drsel]

On 11/15/2020 at 7:26 AM, OzKiwiJJ said:

The problem is that I don't think drsel is preparing for the worst judging by the tone of many the posts they have made.

I'm prepared to shift the cruises to Feb -Mar 2022.

If Carnival cancels Apr 2021 cruises, its no problem at all

[drsel]

On 11/15/2020 at 7:27 AM, NSWP said:

Let us allow drsel to have their dreams. But most of us know, the dream is becoming a nightmare.

What nightmare? Everthing is cool, as long as we get to cruise, whether in April 2021 or 2022.

I am not booking 2022 Aus cruises right now, just waiting for Carnival to cancel Apr 2021 first, so that I can transfer the deposits.

Edited November 17, 2020 by drsel

[By The Bay]

2 hours ago, drsel said:

What nightmare? Everything is cool, as long as we get to cruise, whether in April 2021 or 2022.

I am not booking 2022 Aus cruises right now, just waiting for Carnival to cancel Apr 2021 first, so that I can transfer the deposits.

Very logical. I have a cruise booked in October 21 that is scheduled to go to the South Pacific Islands. I am not paying the final payments unless the Islands are willing to allow cruises to visit. I also need our Government to allow us to leave Australia, which at the moment we cannot.

[getting older slowly]

2 hours ago, drsel said:

I am not booking 2022 Aus cruises right now, just waiting for Carnival to cancel Apr 2021 first, so that I can transfer the deposits.

Interesting.... when I book something, one wanst to go... the cruise we should have been on now, was booked last year... and is the first holiday which has been cancelled..

 

Don

Edited November 17, 2020 by getting older slowly

[NSWP]

7 hours ago, drsel said:

Thanks! You are right.

I am just hoping that my almost free cruises will go ahead as scheduled.

If not, no problem. If Carnival cancels Apr 2021 cruises,  I will shift them to Feb -Mar 2022.

I have nothing to lose, since I havent booked any airfare/hotel,etc

With all due respect how do you get 'almost free cruises?'    Perhaps you explained that a while ago on here, if so, apologies.

[getting older slowly]

Remember .... no such thing as a free lunch.........

 

Even a walk along the beach  is not free.. unless you live on the beach......

 

Wait the air we breathe .... that is pretty free.......

( but if you want really clean air... is costs )

 

Don

[Rassa]

Its not going to be free anyway because it will be cancelled and everything after that is on the dearer side - so once again nothing for free.

[NSWP]

1 minute ago, Rassa said:

Its not going to be free anyway because it will be cancelled and everything after that is on the dearer side - so once again nothing for free.

Indeed I have noticed an increase in future cruise prices.