Rare Ken the cruiser Posted March 21, 2021 #276 Share Posted March 21, 2021 13 hours ago, BoundForSea said: Thanks for posting this as it really got us excited about the possibility we'll be able to go on our Edge cruises in July. Now here's hoping he's read the "tea leaves" correctly. 🤞🤞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR74 Posted March 21, 2021 #277 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ken the cruiser said: Thanks for posting this as it really got us excited about the possibility we'll be able to go on our Edge cruises in July. Now here's hoping he's read the "tea leaves" correctly. 🤞🤞 I think he said US cruises in his video. Technically that's not correct. I still think this is a strategy from RCL , to go to other home ports to a) "encourage" the CDC to be flexible, and b) to have a back up plan. High stakes game. Edited March 21, 2021 by HMR74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefndoug Posted March 21, 2021 #278 Share Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 10:52 AM, terrydtx said: My understanding is the second shot has to be administered 28 to 35 days between the first to be fully effective, if this is the case a 4 month wait does no good anyway. Our Provincial doctor says science says it can be 4 months between shots...don't...even....get...me...started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie115 Posted March 21, 2021 #279 Share Posted March 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, Sam.Seattle said: Let's see..... Attending School * No Covid Test required for Kids * No required vaccine for teachers. * CDC - 3-ft distance Okay. * Barriers no longer recommended by CDC Expected St,Maarten Celebrity June Cruise: * Negative Covid Test required for passengers under 18-years old. * Vaccine required for adult passengers and crew. * Social distance? It will be interesting to learn more here, but here are my assumptions: * Recorded life boat drills with staggered reporting to muster station. * Staggered and enforced embarking and debarking times. * Reduced capacity. * Increased cleaning requirements. Concern about 2,000 to 3,000 people pushing to be first off or on the ship: * Just wait to be the last person(s) embarking or debarking. Problem solved! This is a pre pandemic choice people make on their own. For that past decade we have arrived to port late and debarked last and usually don't have experience people pushing since the herd as past. Comment that teachers in class rooms with 20 - 30 students are able to maintain the distance: * What distance? The CDC 3-foot recommendation? * Who said the 3-ft social distance will not be recommended or required on a ship? * Should I assume Kids follow rules better than adults? Maybe... I am so very proud of my DW who happily is back in the class room with the kiddos. To assume an elementary school teacher can maintain a 6-foot distance with the kiddos has not been in a class room lately. SCHOOL TEACHERS ARE HEROS and ESSENTIAL WORKERS! Thanks again Celebrity for thinking out of the box and providing everyone the opportunity to cruise again it they want to... CHEERS! 🍸 Yes, everything you said!!! 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieps Posted March 21, 2021 #280 Share Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 12:56 PM, TeaBag said: We won't be booking because we won't receive our vaccine till April and then have to wait 4 months for the second one. 4 Months? I got Moderna #1 yesterday and the lag is 34 days. Pfizer is supposed to be three weeks. Is there a shortage where you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted March 21, 2021 #281 Share Posted March 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, marieps said: 4 Months? I got Moderna #1 yesterday and the lag is 34 days. Pfizer is supposed to be three weeks. Is there a shortage where you are? Exactly 21 days from the first Pfizer to the second Pfizer shot for both my wife and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted March 21, 2021 #282 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Some other countries do not yet have the supply of vaccines that the US has, so extended time between doses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted March 21, 2021 #283 Share Posted March 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, davekathy said: Exactly 21 days from the first Pfizer to the second Pfizer shot for both my wife and I. We received our second Pfizer shots 18 days after the first. Hospital said that was the minimum allowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted March 21, 2021 #284 Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Baron Barracuda said: We received our second Pfizer shots 18 days after the first. Hospital said that was the minimum allowed. Welcome to the club. 😉🍷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieps Posted March 21, 2021 #285 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, jelayne said: Some other countries do not yet have the supply of vaccines that the US has, so extended time between doses. But Teabag is in Vancouver. I'm not sure there's a shortage there that would require a 4 month lag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie115 Posted March 21, 2021 #286 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, marieps said: But Teabag is in Vancouver. I'm not sure there's a shortage there that would require a 4 month lag. Pretty sure most of Canada is doing what the UK is doing....getting as many as possible the first shot before getting the 2nd one. UK is saying something like 6 months till the 2nd one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieps Posted March 21, 2021 #287 Share Posted March 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, Gracie115 said: Pretty sure most of Canada is doing what the UK is doing....getting as many as possible the first shot before getting the 2nd one. UK is saying something like 6 months till the 2nd one. Ah. Not a shortage per se, just allotting resources differently. Considering the 1st dose covers you 87% or so...it's a valid deployment strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted March 21, 2021 #288 Share Posted March 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, Gracie115 said: Pretty sure most of Canada is doing what the UK is doing....getting as many as possible the first shot before getting the 2nd one. UK is saying something like 6 months till the 2nd one. The UK is doing a max of 12 weeks between shots. On average about 9-10 weeks. For the majority of people this is optimal as their vaccine is AZ one and has better efficacy with an 8-12 weeks lag as expected for a AD based vaccine. However, with Pfizer this is outside the manufactures recommended lag so it is a bit of a leap of faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted March 21, 2021 #289 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, fragilek said: The UK is doing a max of 12 weeks between shots. On average about 9-10 weeks. For the majority of people this is optimal as their vaccine is AZ one and has better efficacy with an 8-12 weeks lag as expected for a AD based vaccine. However, with Pfizer this is outside the manufactures recommended lag so it is a bit of a leap of faith. There is no shortage of the vaccine here at the moment, the reasoning is to get as many people vaccinated as possible. Yesterday they got 844,285 shots done. And now more than half of the Adult population has had at least 1 vaccine shot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 21, 2021 #290 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, marieps said: Ah. Not a shortage per se, just allotting resources differently. Considering the 1st dose covers you 87% or so...it's a valid deployment strategy. Actually, a combination of the two. We started off reserving the second shot for those having received their first one. Then came the realization that the flow of vaccines wasn't as fast as initially anticipated, so there was a switch to getting as many 1st shots as possible into people's arms and provide that 87% or so protection to a much higher number of people. Now the flow has picked up, and I believe that most provinces will continue with the delayed 2nd shot, but that the delay will be shorter. With the single shot J&J vaccine headed this way in due course, there will be more dual-dose vaccine available to further shorten the delay. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted March 21, 2021 #291 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Can someone explain how you find a test for the 72 hour rule to fly back to the USA? Do you find it on your own or does cruise company help? Specifically interested in what they might do in St. Maarten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieps Posted March 21, 2021 #292 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Fouremco said: Actually, a combination of the two. We started off reserving the second shot for those having received their first one. Then came the realization that the flow of vaccines wasn't as fast as initially anticipated, so there was a switch to getting as many 1st shots as possible into people's arms and provide that 87% or so protection to a much higher number of people. Now the flow has picked up, and I believe that most provinces will continue with the delayed 2nd shot, but that the delay will be shorter. With the single shot J&J vaccine headed this way in due course, there will be more dual-dose vaccine available to further shorten the delay. You didn't begin to clarify with an apology. I'm appalled! 😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marieps Posted March 21, 2021 #293 Share Posted March 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, zitsky said: Can someone explain how you find a test for the 72 hour rule to fly back to the USA? Do you find it on your own or does cruise company help? Specifically interested in what they might do in St. Maarten. I believe Host Anne has already reported the test will come on board at no add'l cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted March 21, 2021 #294 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, marieps said: You didn't begin to clarify with an apology. I'm appalled! 😁 Sorry! 😪 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGW59 Posted March 21, 2021 #295 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Fouremco said: Actually, a combination of the two. We started off reserving the second shot for those having received their first one. Then came the realization that the flow of vaccines wasn't as fast as initially anticipated, so there was a switch to getting as many 1st shots as possible into people's arms and provide that 87% or so protection to a much higher number of people. Now the flow has picked up, and I believe that most provinces will continue with the delayed 2nd shot, but that the delay will be shorter. With the single shot J&J vaccine headed this way in due course, there will be more dual-dose vaccine available to further shorten the delay. SOOOO excited, was just able to register for my 1st Moderna vaccine. Monday, April 5, 10am, I will run not walk, VAX me up please and thank you!!! See you in 2022 APEX! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserchuck Posted March 21, 2021 #296 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, LGW59 said: SOOOO excited, was just able to register for my 1st Moderna vaccine. Monday, April 5, 10am, I will run not walk, VAX me up please and thank you!!! See you in 2022 APEX! I received my first dose last week. It was the first time I was ever excited about getting a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingGoddess Posted March 21, 2021 #297 Share Posted March 21, 2021 How likely do you think people will bring their kids on this cruise? I was really excited when I heard it was going to be adults only and then now the Celebrity website says kids with a negative COVID test are allowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted March 22, 2021 #298 Share Posted March 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, CruisingGoddess said: How likely do you think people will bring their kids on this cruise? I was really excited when I heard it was going to be adults only and then now the Celebrity website says kids with a negative COVID test are allowed. Where did you see adults only? I'm ok as long as they test kids too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lienf Posted March 22, 2021 #299 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 hours ago, marieps said: But Teabag is in Vancouver. I'm not sure there's a shortage there that would require a 4 month lag. There is definitely a shortage here. We have done a very poor job in vaccine procurement. I just checked on our CTV news web site and it shows we are at number 53 in the world in vaccines given. My wife and I are in our early 70’s and we may get our first shots sometime in April. Then a second 4 months after that. We have friends in the US and the UK who have had both shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted March 22, 2021 #300 Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 hours ago, marieps said: 4 Months? I got Moderna #1 yesterday and the lag is 34 days. Pfizer is supposed to be three weeks. Is there a shortage where you are? Our Moderna shots were given 28 days apart,.as per rec of hosp clinic in Florida where they were given and the manuf. Second dose was pre- reserved. Guess there is some leeway but 4 months seems long. ( Side effects of 2nd shot were worse than 1st, as expected) Tests for kids are okay but vaccinations may need much more study & thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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