You're A Nice Person, But You Can't Have My Jello

[Spif Barwunkel]

Certainly the most simplest of titles to introduce you to this thread. A modern day "caste system"  on the high seas, where even though we sail together we sail apart. Should distinctions and levels of entitlement exist on todays cruise liners? Is it necessary for X to put people in classes based on accumulated points which designate where we belong? Is your Royal Suite more deserving of better service and attention than my lower deck inside cabin? For the most part distinctions go unnoticed but on occasion the rift is obvious. 

 

Nothing new here, been around for a long time. You know what, you're still a nice person but you can't have my jello.

[mitz18]

34 minutes ago, Spif Barwunkel said:

Certainly the most simplest of titles to introduce you to this thread. A modern day "caste system"  on the high seas, where even though we sail together we sail apart. Should distinctions and levels of entitlement exist on todays cruise liners? Is it necessary for X to put people in classes based on accumulated points which designate where we belong? Is your Royal Suite more deserving of better service and attention than my lower deck inside cabin? For the most part distinctions go unnoticed but on occasion the rift is obvious. 

 

Nothing new here, been around for a long time. You know what, you're still a nice person but you can't have my jello.

 

Seems this is about the third thread you’ve started on this board questioning Celebrity.  I think thou protesteth to much. What are you really after?

Answers: yes; yes; yes

[CHEZMARYLOU]

Yes to all questions.

 

[mom says]

WTH are you actually talking about?

"to put people in classes based on accumulated points" Do you mean loyalty points? So they get a few perks because if the many thousands of dollars they've spent on X in the past. Haven't they earned them? I don't see this as a "class apart". Anyone who has spent that much is entitled to the same thing. Do you also complain about hotel guests or airline passengers with enough loyalty points to use their concierge lounges?

 

"Is your Royal Suite more deserving of better service and attention than my lower deck inside cabin?" Well, yes, to a certain extent this is true. You pay the extra money for Butler service and a separate lounge and dining room (and the services which come with those).

 

You get what you pay for. And I believe you can have jello no matter what your loyalty status or cabin category.

 

 

[davekathy]

I don't want your  Jell-O! 

[villauk]

Just now, davekathy said:

I don't want your  Jell-O! 

 

 

Well I was going to ask what jelly has to do with anything 🤣.

[billslowsky]

Cruise Critic needs to bring back the ignore feature.

[mitz18]

Just now, billslowsky said:

Cruise Critic needs to bring back the ignore feature.

 

Absolutely.....

[hcat]

It was not always that way on X....everyone was treated great.

 

But that ship has sailed,  so no real.point to the thread.. there is an ignore feature.  

Edited October 11, 2019 by hcat

[Fouremco]

7 minutes ago, billslowsky said:

Cruise Critic needs to bring back the ignore feature.

It's still there. Go to Settings--->Ignored Users and add as you see fit.

[Luvcrusn]

6 minutes ago, billslowsky said:

Cruise Critic needs to bring back the ignore feature.

I am confused by the three threads started by this same OP.  (BTW the Ignore feature still exists, just click on your user name in upper right, click the Ignored Users and you can add or delete from there). 

[mitz18]

2 minutes ago, Luvcrusn said:

I am confused by the three threads started by this same OP.  (BTW the Ignore feature still exists, just click on your user name in upper right, click the Ignored Users and you can add or delete from there). 

 

I think I smell a troll.

[Fogfog]

1 hour ago, Spif Barwunkel said:

Certainly the most simplest of titles to introduce you to this thread. A modern day "caste system"  on the high seas, where even though we sail together we sail apart. Should distinctions and levels of entitlement exist on todays cruise liners? Is it necessary for X to put people in classes based on accumulated points which designate where we belong? Is your Royal Suite more deserving of better service and attention than my lower deck inside cabin? For the most part distinctions go unnoticed but on occasion the rift is obvious. 

 

Nothing new here, been around for a long time. You know what, you're still a nice person but you can't have my jello.

 

People in suite class PAY for a different level of service/dining and attention.

Anyone who purchases that suite is entitle to the same benefits. 

 

No "caste" as you weren't born into it....anyone can purchase  that level of service if it suites them and their budget

 

I don't have a problem with people getting more loyalty points for purchasing more services

In all honesty I think Carnival CCL does its pax a disservice by NOT giving different points based on the level of the room/$ spent.

 

The casino does it-- folks there build up points based on the "contributions" they have made to the casino... Its not our thing. And I have no problem with what they get for their loyalty etc

 

 

Edited October 11, 2019 by Fogfog

[dkjretired]

I questioned it in the first thread. Almost like someone’s writing a book. Love to know the morive

[billslowsky]

13 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

It's still there. Go to Settings--->Ignored Users and add as you see fit.

Thanks you both for the directions.  Getting ready to see Spif go Poof.

[Fouremco]

3 minutes ago, Luvcrusn said:

I am confused by the three threads started by this same OP. 

Anyone starting three successive threads that are bound to be polarizing is clearly looking for reactions. What's next, a thread asking whether Celebrity passengers wouldn't be better served with a return to proper formal nights and appropriate dress?

[mitz18]

16 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

Anyone starting three successive threads that are bound to be polarizing is clearly looking for reactions. What's next, a thread asking whether Celebrity passengers wouldn't be better served with a return to proper formal nights and appropriate dress?

 

Oh I know you didn’t just play the “dress code” card......😂😂

[mom says]

12 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

Anyone starting three successive threads that are bound to be polarizing is clearly looking for reactions.

Or, in the vernacular, a s__t disturber.  Someone so bored with their life that they feel a need to try to create controversy for their personal entertainment.  There are a few if these people around here (some of whom frequent these boards daily).

[mek]

1 hour ago, hcat said:

It was not always that way on X....everyone was treated great.

 

But that ship has sailed,  so no real.point to the thread.. there is an ignore feature.  

I think I'm still treated well.  The most I will ever book is a balcony, but I don't have any problem with people who pay way more than I do getting extra perks. 

IMO, jealousy and envy are two of the most destructive problems in society today.

[ORV]

2 hours ago, Luvcrusn said:

I am confused by the three threads started by this same OP.  (BTW the Ignore feature still exists, just click on your user name in upper right, click the Ignored Users and you can add or delete from there). 

It's actually easier than that, just click on their name, it will show their profile, then click on ignore user. 

[Fouremco]

19 minutes ago, ORV said:

It's actually easier than that, just click on their name, it will show their profile, then click on ignore user. 

I think you'll find that their profile no longer offers that functionality. 

[Hlitner]

I am going to partially defend the OP.  The "class" complaint has also been an issue on several other cruise line blogs.  In a sense, we are moving forward to the past where Ocean Liners had distinct classes of travel.  We also see it on most airlines where Business and First Class are actually improving while the lowly economy has redefined the term "tight pack" not to mention lousy service.

 

As a very long time cruiser (I started in the mid 70s) I have witnessed many changes in the industry as it matured.  Some have long argued that all passengers should not have to pay for things desired by a few.  You might here this argument on some upscale lines (such as Seabourn, Silverseas and Regent) where everyone gets unlimited drinks.  The non-drinker or light drinker is subsidizing the heavy drinkers.  On Seabourn, the minority of passengers who love caviar (which includes me) are subsidized by the folks that eat little or no caviar.

 

So now we have the return to classes.  Cunard, NCL and MSC have really pioneered the ship within a ship concept.  But this is simply akin to the old First Class in the ole days.  Now Celebrity is refitting ships to accommodate their own version of a ship within a ship with a special deck for suites...not to mention Luminae.  In a sense this is a good thing because folks who are willing to pay for the extra services and higher quality can do that...and those that do not want to pay for that extra stuff can just be jealous :).  Even though we generally do not pay for the suite world....I have no problem with the cruise line's moving in that direction.  

 

As to the thing about frequent cruisers, points, levels, etc...why not!  There are some folks who really get off on this stuff and the perks make them "loyal."    The cruise line gives us a few perks and gets a loyal customer...not a bad trade-off.  Those that want to whine about it can either whine, earn enough of their own points, or buy the perks.  On HAL they have recently implemented a "Club Orange" which is a way that any cruiser can buy the perks that would normally take about 500 cruise days to earn.  A win for the cruise line since they get some extra revenue.  But those that claim to have "worked hard" to get to the high levels are not pleased that anyone can buy into their unique club.  (before I get flamed, I am in many of those higher categories and happily accept the perks).

 

As to the OP, he/she is simply a whiner and/or winnable.  They exist everywhere in the travel world.  If I am willing to pay for a decent Lay Flat seat on a long International flight, some of those in economy who happen to see the rarified world of Business/First Class are jealous and think that it is not fair.  The fact that I might be paying 3-5 times the price that they paid is not relevant.  But that is life.  Those willing to pay for McDonalds can have their Big Mac.  But those who "choose" to pay for a Wagyu Burger at a high end restaurant certainly deserve the better burger :).

 

Hank 
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[ORV]

26 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

I think you'll find that their profile no longer offers that functionality. 

I shouldn't have said click, you need to hover over a name and it will come up, I just did it to yours so I know it works, but don't worry I took you off the list as you have some good things to say. So it can be done with one hover and one click. Try it. 

[Fouremco]

1 minute ago, ORV said:

I shouldn't have said click, you need to hover over a name and it will come up, I just did it to yours so I know it works, but don't worry I took you off the list as you have some good things to say. So it can be done with one hover and one click. Try it. 

Your right, hovering works beautifully. It's not an obvious approach, but it is definitely quicker. Thanks for the tip!

[Jim_Iain]

3 hours ago, billslowsky said:

Cruise Critic needs to bring back the ignore feature.

They still have it.   Just hover over the persons name or emoji and select Ignore User.