wolfcathorse Posted October 15, 2019 #26 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, chengkp75 said: Her "stern", sorry can't resist. "Aft" is not a noun. I wanted to say a$$ but ladies don't like having their arses stared at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted October 15, 2019 Author #27 Share Posted October 15, 2019 The problem with painting the older ships’ hulls blue is that their upper decks, balconies, and dining room windows are tinted green. It may clash with the blue hull and create a cartoonish look. The Oasis and Quantum-class ships have gray/blue-tinted glass that compliments the light blue hull. Here’s an example of the green on Voyager and the gray/blue on Symphony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted October 15, 2019 #28 Share Posted October 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, wolfcathorse said: so now all the ships will look like the Oasis class ships, light blue bottom. You won't be able to tell from a distance which class of ship it is unless you look at her aft. I see cruise ships leaving PC 4-5 days a week. You can tell Oasis from Mariner, trust me. Plus the blue is quite pleasing from the distance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted October 15, 2019 #29 Share Posted October 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, Fairsky84 said: The problem with painting the older ships’ hulls blue is that their upper decks, balconies, and dining room windows are tinted green. It may clash with the blue hull and create a cartoonish look. The Oasis and Quantum-class ships have gray/blue-tinted glass that compliments the light blue hull. Here’s an example of the green on Voyager and the gray/blue on Symphony. It doesn't seem to stand out in your original picture. It could be more of an issue with the Gen 2 Voyager ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retafcruiser Posted October 15, 2019 #30 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, chengkp75 said: The anti-fouling paint, below the waterline, is a dark blue, and yes it has teflon in the paint and produces a very hard finish that marine growth has a difficult time adhering to. Is the use of TBT a thing of the past? It was supposedly great as a bottom coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Drock20J Posted October 15, 2019 #31 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I like the blue on the Oasis Class ships, it was a nice change from the pure white on the other class ships. I personally think that this blue is a little too dark, but hey, that its my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 15, 2019 #32 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, retafcruiser said: Is the use of TBT a thing of the past? It was supposedly great as a bottom coating. Yes, TBT was banned in 2008, because it caused the collapse of the French shellfish industry. Most bottom paints use copper as the anti-fouling agent, though some areas are looking at what damage copper from these paints are doing to the ecosystem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 15, 2019 #33 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, retafcruiser said: Is the use of TBT a thing of the past? It was supposedly great as a bottom coating. Sorry, duplicate. Edited October 15, 2019 by chengkp75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted October 15, 2019 #34 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Drock20J said: I personally think that this blue is a little too dark, but hey, that its my opinion. My opinion as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted October 15, 2019 #35 Share Posted October 15, 2019 If I recall correctly, on our Anthem cruise last year, it was painted the same color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkvillain Posted October 15, 2019 #36 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Ethanol95 said: Why take the perfect white pearl look away. It made it classy. Now its just like someone made a mistake and decided to completely cover it up with blue (a terrible shade of blue i might add). Couldn't they at least have chosen a more appealing turquoise-ish blue.. They did it so people could go on Internet forums and complain about it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Drock20J Posted October 15, 2019 #37 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I wonder if the blue is more resistant to rusting? I know that it will hide some dirt more than white, but maybe that is why? reduces the upkeep of cleaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Researcher Posted October 15, 2019 #38 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I never cared for it on Oasis class, and it looks even worse on Voyager class. Why in the world would you choose baby blue? The clean white of the old paint job is much more elegant looking. Now it looks like a toy that's been blown up 1000x Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted October 15, 2019 #39 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I think it works better on Oasis because with the balcony structure and open stern the demarcation between the blue and white is not as stark. But the solid wall balconies on the side and stern of Explorer make the color difference very noticable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted October 15, 2019 #40 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I personally feel that the baby blue looks much smarter than the white. And, it contrasts nicely with the upper white superstructure above the hull. Also take note of the HAL ships with their black hulls. Far less rubber smudges seen on a black hull from the pier fenders, I feel that is pretty smart and saves the cruise line in man hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBE4 Posted October 15, 2019 #41 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Hogbay said: Someone got the order wrong so there is alot of blue paint to use up 🤣 https://cruisepassenger.com.au/australian-cruiser-turns-the-hull-of-voyager-of-the-seas-blue/ It took 2 1/2 weeks from the time the guy suggested the blue paint to the time the ship was actually painted? That's pretty quick turn around time. Most companies need to discuss something like that first for a few months before forming a committee to analyze the pros and cons, then need to do a marketing survey, select the specfic shade of blue from the thousands of blues out there, order the paint, etc, etc, etc. Heck, I probably spend 2 1/2 weeks going back and forth to Home Depot before deciding which shade of white to paint the ceiling in my dining room. 😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted October 15, 2019 Author #42 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, johnjen said: Also take note of the HAL ships with their black hulls. Far less rubber smudges seen on a black hull from the pier fenders, I feel that is pretty smart and saves the cruise line in man hours. Yes, dark hulls do hide smudges and rust better but there’s a reason warm-weather cruise ships have traditionally had white hulls. The white reflects the sunlight which keeps the ship’s interior cooler which requires less energy for air conditioning. It saves fuel and money. It’s also why cold-weather liners which crossed the North Atlantic had black or dark hulls. They absorbed the light to help heat the ship’s interior. When Cunard would redeploy their liners to cruise in the Caribbean, for example, they would often repaint the ships’ hulls white for this reason. See here for more about this: https://www.technology.org/2018/07/06/why-most-cruise-ships-and-luxury-yachts-are-white-while-container-ships-are-all-kinds-of-colours/ Edited October 15, 2019 by Fairsky84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 15, 2019 #43 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, HBE4 said: It took 2 1/2 weeks from the time the guy suggested the blue paint to the time the ship was actually painted? I think there may more to this story we don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy1016 Posted October 15, 2019 #44 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 hours ago, Hogbay said: were could you fit 72 new staterooms? https://cruisepassenger.com.au/sneak-peak-inside-voyager-of-the-seas-refurbishment-as-she-head-to-australia/ The article showed a bunch of photos of the work being done. I'll be on Freedom's first cruise after her amplification. I would love to see photos of the refurb as it's happening. Does anyone know if there is a web site that shows the progress being made during dry dock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted October 15, 2019 #45 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fairsky84 said: Yes, dark hulls do hide smudges and rust better but there’s a reason warm-weather cruise ships have traditionally had white hulls. The white reflects the sunlight which keeps the ship’s interior cooler which requires less energy for air conditioning. It saves fuel and money. It’s also why cold-weather liners which crossed the North Atlantic had black or dark hulls. They absorbed the light to help heat the ship’s interior. When Cunard would redeploy their liners to cruise in the Caribbean, for example, they would often repaint the ships’ hulls white for this reason. See here for more about this: https://www.technology.org/2018/07/06/why-most-cruise-ships-and-luxury-yachts-are-white-while-container-ships-are-all-kinds-of-colours/ That was a very interesting article and very factual, thanks. When I was on the USS LaSalle (AGF-3) for a TAD of 9 months during Desert Storm, she was painted white due to the sensitive electronics on board and yes, her AC ran more efficiently than if her hull was painted grey. Eventually though, her hull ended up being grey after a certain yard period well after DS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted October 15, 2019 #46 Share Posted October 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, cruiseguy1016 said: Does anyone know if there is a web site that shows the progress being made during dry dock? @Lloyd555 may have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd555 Posted October 15, 2019 #47 Share Posted October 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Biker19 said: @Lloyd555 may have something. I've seen some photos on FB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 15, 2019 #48 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, cruiseguy1016 said: The article showed a bunch of photos of the work being done. I'll be on Freedom's first cruise after her amplification. I would love to see photos of the refurb as it's happening. Does anyone know if there is a web site that shows the progress being made during dry dock? Those photos were given out by RCI for PR reasons, but in general, both the cruise line and the shipyard are pretty protective of what goes out regarding work in the yard, for liability reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted October 15, 2019 Author #49 Share Posted October 15, 2019 More photos from the shipyard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted October 15, 2019 #50 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, johnjen said: I personally feel that the baby blue looks much smarter than the white. And, it contrasts nicely with the upper white superstructure above the hull. Also take note of the HAL ships with their black hulls. Far less rubber smudges seen on a black hull from the pier fenders, I feel that is pretty smart and saves the cruise line in man hours. HAL ships are dark blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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