Rare PTC DAWG Posted June 17, 2020 #26 Share Posted June 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Fouremco said: @PTC DAWG preparing to board: LOL, not me...eyes wide open..I still think it’s a no go...sadly, more worried about the “cure”;than the actually virus. Tearing apart the travel industry sadly.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare C-Dragons Posted June 17, 2020 #27 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Argo. said: Forget about it. First Celebrity sailing probably Apex in September... perhaps the TA to Florida and Edge to keep the most modern ships in circulation Silhouette in November... that's it.... unless Australia opens for Solstice Some crew still have not been able to get home... imagine getting them back for a maybe cruise. Yes ... the Apex TA in October. We're looking forward to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted June 17, 2020 #28 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 minute ago, PTC DAWG said: LOL, not me...eyes wide open..I still think it’s a no go...sadly, more worried about the “cure”;than the actually virus. Tearing apart the travel industry sadly.. Yes, it's so sad to see the impact on all aspects of life as we know it, including travel. Hopefully the optimism you've shown over the last few months will prove to be well founded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted June 17, 2020 #29 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Fouremco said: Yes, it's so sad to see the impact on all aspects of life as we know it, including travel. Hopefully the optimism you've shown over the last few months will prove to be well founded. My family has been directly infected by the shut down..trying to stay positive... Edited June 17, 2020 by PTC DAWG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DENIE Posted June 17, 2020 #30 Share Posted June 17, 2020 We cancelled our America's cruise on the Reflection in November. Just didn't seem like everything would be in order by then. We are hoping this is all straightened out by our Reflection Baltic cruise in August 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted June 17, 2020 #31 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, C-Dragons said: Yes ... the Apex TA in October. We're looking forward to it. There is absolutely no way the Apex will sail the TA with paying passengers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WNcruiser Posted June 17, 2020 #32 Share Posted June 17, 2020 1 hour ago, kwokpot said: There is absolutely no way the Apex will sail the TA with paying passengers. Well, for those of us booked on it we are hopeful it will. No reason right now to think it won’t being 4 months away and knowing they need it in the Caribbean for the winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl94 Posted June 17, 2020 #33 Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, WNcruiser said: Well, for those of us booked on it we are hopeful it will. No reason right now to think it won’t being 4 months away and knowing they need it in the Caribbean for the winter. How do you propose getting there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzy1 Posted June 17, 2020 #34 Share Posted June 17, 2020 We cancelled our America's cruise on the Reflection in November. Just didn't seem like everything would be in order by then. We are hoping this is all straightened out by our Reflection Baltic cruise in August 2021.Will cancel our Dec 4 Caribbean out of Ft. Laud. First time in the Caribbean for us so want the best experience possSent from my iPhone using Forums 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted June 17, 2020 #35 Share Posted June 17, 2020 14 hours ago, NC State said: Based on our October Caribbean cruise it is still on. Celebrity has called people on our date to let them know it's still on go and we could book tours early. Now that's a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prim8keeper Posted June 17, 2020 #36 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, WNcruiser said: Well, for those of us booked on it we are hopeful it will. No reason right now to think it won’t being 4 months away and knowing they need it in the Caribbean for the winter. I think the other thing to factor in for any TA in the near future is if the lines are willing to risk having passengers on board being that far away from land for so many days? I'm not sure they would take the risk especially if they have not been able to operate shorter sailings successfully first. At best it would be a liability and at worst it becomes yet another PR nightmare for the cruise industry. Edited June 17, 2020 by prim8keeper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzygang Posted June 17, 2020 #37 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I have no idea when cruises will restart. Like most, I hope sooner rather than later. There's a lot if wishful thinking but to put some time line out there a series of events have to take place first 1 CDC and other country health agencies have to define the necessary health protocols which may all be different 2 ship processes have to be modified to meet those protocols 3 cruise lines have to modify itineraries to avoid closed ports and get their ships to the cruise start point 4 they have to get crews back from Indonesia, India, Philippines etc into the countries where the cruise will start in sufficient time for them to meet any isolation conditions To my knowledge, talks with CDC , for example, have not even started and countries where many of the crews come from are showing the highest rates of Covid cases right now Maybe we'll see cruises in some modified form by Oct but I'd say that's low probability. Logistically, the TA's may be the best bet. Eg a tightly controlled boarding at a single port in Italy or Spain, possibly stop at one or two more in Europe, extend Atlantic transit to say 9 days, private island in the Bahamas then - the difficult bit- being able to disembark in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted June 17, 2020 #38 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Crossings are going to be the most problematic if the CDC codifies the provisions of the No Sail Order and extends it. Basically, any ship must have a mini-hospital onboard (including ventilators, e,g.) and have an evacuation plan that does not rely on US forces (CG, Navy). Specifically: If medical evacuation is necessary arrangements for evacuation must be made with commercial resources (e.g., ship tender, chartered standby vessel, chartered airlift) and arrangements made with a designated medical facility that has agreed to accept such evacuees. All medical evacuation plans must be coordinated with the U.S. Coast Guard; Difficult to accomplish that on a crossing with 6 or 7 consecutive sea days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin 11 Posted June 17, 2020 #39 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Lisa said sailing will resume 4th quarter to a group of travel agents a couple days ago. So that is probably the start date, Oct. …. ish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin 11 Posted June 17, 2020 #40 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, kwokpot said: There is absolutely no way the Apex will sail the TA with paying passengers. OKAY mr. fortune teller Edited June 17, 2020 by pumpkin 11 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisin 07 Posted June 17, 2020 #41 Share Posted June 17, 2020 My 7 night Caribbean cruise in Nov can still be booked. Big difference for same 2A room with same 2 perks the price has gone up over $1300 for the two of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplsmurf Posted June 17, 2020 #42 Share Posted June 17, 2020 For anyone hoping to sail in September or October with Aruba as one of their stops plan on that stop being cancelled. Waiting to see how things play out, but with Aruba beginning to open next month they are requiring a Covid test within 72 hours of going there as well as insurance that covers it. Unless cruise lines can give everyone on board a test before porting it will be unlikely Aruba will be a stop. I can see these restrictions on many of the Caribbean islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted June 17, 2020 #43 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Europe is planning to lift some travel restrictions in July but only for those living in countries with low infection levels. So, that takes the US out of the running initially. This week's stories are showing big spikes in infections in places like Texas and Florida where the states opened widely around Memorial Day. We should start seeing increases related to the protests of the last couple weeks within the next week or so. So until that subsides, forget about getting to the TA ports. The resurgence of cases in China also doesn't give one much confidence in how this will progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted June 17, 2020 #44 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, pumpkin 11 said: OKAY mr. fortune teller Obviously I am speculating and don't have any inside information. But I was a Business Analyst at one point in my professional career and putting on that hat and looking at all the information about cruises starting up does not point to a TA as one of the first cruises that would start up. If cruises started up now and there was a history of successful cruises with whatever mitigation strategies they will have then I could see a longer cruise such as a TA occur in October. But the way things are going it's more than likely the first cruises won't startup until October 1st at the earliest. That doesn't give enough time to test out whether everything they will implement will be successful for The Apex TA which is October 22nd. I'm scheduled for November 15th on The Apex. I have left my reservation as is and will wait and see. Edited June 17, 2020 by kwokpot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted June 17, 2020 #45 Share Posted June 17, 2020 13 hours ago, kwokpot said: There is absolutely no way the Apex will sail the TA with paying passengers. I'll take that free cruise. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cruiser 6143 Posted June 17, 2020 #46 Share Posted June 17, 2020 18 hours ago, wrk2cruise said: I'm sure they are very happy to take your money right up to the time they cancel. Then they will take 60 days to return it to you. Actually, they'll take more than 60 days, but who's counting? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateWes Posted June 17, 2020 #47 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Thanks for the update on this! Will be interesting to see what announcements they make in the next few weeks! We will have all the refund chasing to look forward to 🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnorigionalName Posted June 17, 2020 #48 Share Posted June 17, 2020 For those of you optimists who expect to cruise in October: What do you forsee as being different between now and October that will allow cruises to go forth? You think the CDC will just give up and throw up their hands and be like, you know what, y'all can get sick, we DGAF anymore, go do whatever you want. You think there will be a second lockdown that will be even more strict and longer than the first to get cases to a trackable level? I don't see that happening in the current political climate You think that there will be such an explosion of cases that 85+% of the country will get infected by October and we will have herd immunity? Don't think anyone even dreams that any of the vaccines will be released in October Nothing gamechanging on the treatment side, maybe slight improvements here or there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl94 Posted June 18, 2020 #49 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Spain has extended its cruise ship ban indefinitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted June 18, 2020 #50 Share Posted June 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, BigAl94 said: Spain has extended its cruise ship ban indefinitely. Factual evidence please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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