Mikew0805 Posted April 6, 2019 #976 Share Posted April 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, yzfmik said: Was just looking at an overhead pic of Symphony and realized if this accident has happened post AMP it would have taken out the Ultimate Abyss! (since it took out the railing on deck 16!) I do not know for sure, but the AMP'd brochures do not mention the Abyss, so I am thinking that Oasis and Allure, will not get it. That is what I am hoping anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmazedByCruising Posted April 6, 2019 #977 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, DerekB said: So you would agree that most make request far in advance? In businesses where there's are reasonable chance you'd be too late, yes. But while working 40 years, there are only let's say 20 where you have kids in school, if you have any. It totally depends on the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volk904 Posted April 6, 2019 #978 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I am no expert but I believe they must have all ready seen sign of a bearing problem developing and that is why they scheduled the change out. With a major long period full drydock already scheduled for the fall if it was just simple preventing maintenance why not wait a few more months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottish67 Posted April 6, 2019 #979 Share Posted April 6, 2019 58 minutes ago, voyager70 said: What was this thread about to start with 🤔 Agreed; I'm anxiously reading each post for updates on the Oasis. While I appreciate the discussion about European time off procedures, it would be awesome if we could stick to the topic at hand (Repairs of Oasis, refund process, etc.). 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 6, 2019 #980 Share Posted April 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, volk904 said: I am no expert but I believe they must have all ready seen sign of a bearing problem developing and that is why they scheduled the change out. With a major long period full drydock already scheduled for the fall if it was just simple preventing maintenance why not wait a few more months. Based on the previous failures of Oasis, Allure, and some of the Freedom class, they have a pretty good baseline for failure time on the older OA azipods, and therefore they can better schedule the bearing renewal (pending dock availability, which is always a concern). They base this maintenance interval on things like previous failure times, and oil condition (spectrographic analysis of metals present in the oil to determine bearing condition), and things like the azipod bearings will experience a long period of excellent wear characteristics, and at a given point, the wear characteristic "turns a corner" and starts to wear more rapidly. Good engineering is the balance between reliability and cost, and replacing the bearings at this "corner" is the optimum time to complete the maintenance. Manufacturer's planned maintenance intervals are derived from past performance around the world, and intervals are set to prevent failures. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted April 6, 2019 #981 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I believe the question of how this will affect offers and future sailings has been part of this discussion from the beginning. While some of these posts do not interest me personally, I’ve yet to see anything that looks off topic to me. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torpeedo Posted April 6, 2019 #982 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I was curious if there's a webcam in Freeport where we can see how the Oasis is progressing? I'm thinking no. I looked at all webcams and couldn't find one. I imagine there isn't much call for a webcam there but because of the accident I'd love to see how they get the crane off the ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 6, 2019 #983 Share Posted April 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Thorben-Hendrik said: I think after the last propultion issues with the Viking Star - they were ordered to have everything fixed before the TA - as 8000 passengers stuck in the midle of the atlantic would be quite a nightmare....😱 Ok, you've totally lost any credibility. The Oasis cancelled the March 31 cruise to do the azipod maintenance months before the Viking Sky had propulsion issues. BTW, what propulsion issue did Viking Star have? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 6, 2019 #984 Share Posted April 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, scottish67 said: Agreed; I'm anxiously reading each post for updates on the Oasis. While I appreciate the discussion about European time off procedures, it would be awesome if we could stick to the topic at hand (Repairs of Oasis, refund process, etc.). Not sure the OP created this thread to discuss refund process of the cancelled cruises. 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 6, 2019 #985 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Mikew0805 said: I do not know for sure, but the AMP'd brochures do not mention the Abyss, so I am thinking that Oasis and Allure, will not get it. That is what I am hoping anyway. I was told at officer lunch that Oasis would get slides. The Abyss is a slide.😉 Edited April 6, 2019 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted April 6, 2019 #986 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, John&LaLa said: Not sure the OP created this thread to discuss refund process of the cancelled cruises. 🤔 And at one point morphed into a discussion about European vacation policies 😁 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 6, 2019 #987 Share Posted April 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Ok, you've totally lost any credibility. The Oasis cancelled the March 31 cruise to do the azipod maintenance months before the Viking Sky had propulsion issues. BTW, what propulsion issue did Viking Star have? And it has been confirmed VS engines failed due to low oil levels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 6, 2019 #988 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 minute ago, bigeck said: And it has been confirmed VS engines failed due to low oil levels Which VS? I'm so confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 6, 2019 #989 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, John&LaLa said: Which VS? I'm so confused Viking Sky Edited April 6, 2019 by bigeck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted April 6, 2019 #990 Share Posted April 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, bigeck said: And it has been confirmed VS engines failed due to low oil levels Very odd that this was the cause. Every car warns you when oil levels are low! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMarc Posted April 6, 2019 #991 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I have been on many comped cruises and have gotten double C&A points on every one since I cruise by myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzfmik Posted April 6, 2019 #992 Share Posted April 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Mikew0805 said: I do not know for sure, but the AMP'd brochures do not mention the Abyss, so I am thinking that Oasis and Allure, will not get it. That is what I am hoping anyway. I spoke to several employees a few weeks ago on Oasis about the AMP and the guys at the Sabor Bar were very confident that the Ultimate Abyss is coming. Obviously the bar will need to be removed, and they also said Playmakers would be replacing Sabor. I'm super excited for the AMP, going to book an April Oasis sailing while on Navigator next month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dry Dock Dave Posted April 6, 2019 #993 Share Posted April 6, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, bigeck said: And it has been confirmed VS engines failed due to low oil levels Not quite what happened is it? The oil level was within operating range, the rough seas caused enough surge in the oil tanks for the pick up to draw in air and drop the oil pressure sufficiently for the safety cut off to activate to prevent damage if the engine failed, they wouldn’t have got it to start again Edited April 6, 2019 by Dry Dock Dave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 7, 2019 #994 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MrMarc said: I have been on many comped cruises and have gotten double C&A points on every one since I cruise by myself. Free Pinnacle cruise 7 points Free casino cruise 7 points Free noro cruise to replace fee casino cruise, 14 points. Laura went solo since I could not go. Semi free BoA poits cruise 7 points twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lionesss Posted April 7, 2019 #995 Share Posted April 7, 2019 3 hours ago, DerekB said: My thoughts exactly. I live in the Netherlands and if there is anything the Dutch love it is planning in advance! I've had my employees vacation request for this year on the books since early last year - and that isn't even required by me. I live in Ohio and worked in the Medical field. We had to have all our vacations in and verified by August 30th of the previous year. I got 7 weeks paid vacation and all 35 days had to be accounted for by that August date, or it would not be granted. So we have always planned our vacations a minimum of 12 months out. Safe travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted April 7, 2019 #996 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Ok, you've totally lost any credibility. The Oasis cancelled the March 31 cruise to do the azipod maintenance months before the Viking Sky had propulsion issues. BTW, what propulsion issue did Viking Star have? He ever had credibility? Could have fooled me! jc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 7, 2019 #997 Share Posted April 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said: He ever had credibility? Could have fooled me! jc Quite the authority on welds. When do you head to Sydney? Safe travels Edited April 7, 2019 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted April 7, 2019 #998 Share Posted April 7, 2019 2 hours ago, bigeck said: And it has been confirmed VS engines failed due to low oil levels This is really surprising. Cars are always designed with baffles in the oil tank to prevent oil starvation in extreme maneuvers. I suspect the design was compromised when they got rid of the old guys with experience. Or perhaps they eliminated baffles in the oil tank design to reduce cost or save weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF65 Posted April 7, 2019 #999 Share Posted April 7, 2019 3 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Based on the previous failures of Oasis, Allure, and some of the Freedom class, they have a pretty good baseline for failure time on the older OA azipods, and therefore they can better schedule the bearing renewal (pending dock availability, which is always a concern). They base this maintenance interval on things like previous failure times, and oil condition (spectrographic analysis of metals present in the oil to determine bearing condition), and things like the azipod bearings will experience a long period of excellent wear characteristics, and at a given point, the wear characteristic "turns a corner" and starts to wear more rapidly. Good engineering is the balance between reliability and cost, and replacing the bearings at this "corner" is the optimum time to complete the maintenance. Manufacturer's planned maintenance intervals are derived from past performance around the world, and intervals are set to prevent failures. Chief, Is the spectrographic analysis done real time automatically (software) reported to the bridge or reported from the ship to a central maintenance database / facility? I guess my real question is, is "home" updated daily / hourly / weekly / by voyage to make the maintenance decisions or does a mechanic on board actually have to do a physical test on a given interval and update home base? thanks Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted April 7, 2019 #1000 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Quite the authority on welds. When do you head to Sydney? Safe travels thanks John, first flight at 11:20AM Thursday, 3 hour layover in Denver, then SFO, another 4 hour layover, then off to Sydney arrive7AM. Catch a flight to Brisbane at 10, catch a flight to Gladstone at 1... Helicopter to Heron Island at 3.... falling to sleep in our Point Suite shortly there after missing prepaid dinner in the Shearwater at 7..... Can only imagine how tired we will be when we get to Heron Island. jc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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