Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #126 Share Posted February 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, SunNFunCruzer said: No. But the point is that this is a fluid situation. The extreme measures that China and these countries are taking: closing their borders and ports, banning all flights to/from and quarantining citizens, when the reported number of deaths worldwide is less than 1,000 while 10,000 people in the US have died of flu in the 2019-2020 season leads me to believe that these governments know more than we know. Add to that the images, stories and videos out of China and the fact that the Diamond Princess has 130+ cases and I do not want to take the risk that I am on a train, plane or bus let alone a cruiseship isolated in the middle of the ocean with someone who is infected. This virus seems to have a long incubation and people seem to be able to be infected and asymptomatic, so that's a huge risk. The Caribbean Princess that left 2/2/20 had a noro outbreak, was denied port calls in St. Kitts and Barbados and is returning to port in Florida 5 days early. Is that really because of noro, or are these tiny Caribbean nations looking for any excuse to deny port stops to MegaLiners? I don't want to be on a 12 day Caribbean cruise to nowhere whether there's noro/corona or no virus on-board. If people come and go for the next 30 days on cruises in the Caribbean without a problem, then maybe I'll get to enjoy my cruise with it's 6 ports on the 15th, too! If people report their experiences, then in aggregate I'll have accurate, first hand, real time, real world information before I make a decision to board. That is hard to come by these days. Let’s all hope the Diamond Princess is an isolated case. I can only measure the incubation period by what the experts say. This is being treated seriously for due cause. That said, we should take solace in their actions not gas on the fire of fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Carolyn Posted February 11, 2020 #127 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thorncroft said: Still not enough. Everytime another case is confirmed on Diamond Princess the 14 day clock starts over again. Those people may never get off until every last one of them gets sick. In about a month people will be faking symtoms or actively trying to get sick just to try to escape from the ship. The folks on Princess ship in quarantine were told it would end on Feb 19 and as of tonight the gentleman who has been posting regular updates based on information they are receiving from Princess said the clock has not reset based on new cases....or at least not yet Edited February 11, 2020 by Host Carolyn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierpop Posted February 11, 2020 #128 Share Posted February 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, SunNFunCruzer said: Think critically. So much is unknown. Pay attention to what is happening in the world around you and that should inform your understanding. I want to go on my cruise, but I also want to stay safe. Totally agree. But until there is a case in the Carribean, or a heavier concentration in the US, or something that would affect my cruise, Then there is literally nothing to do but wait and see. If information changes, then my thinking will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunNFunCruzer Posted February 11, 2020 #129 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hoosierpop said: Then there is literally nothing to do but wait and see. Exactly. That's why I asked posters to report from their cruises for the the next 30 days, so I could be informed while I wait and see. Everyone cruising in the next 60-90 days should be searching for accurate information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #130 Share Posted February 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Host Carolyn said: The folks on Princess ship in quarantine were told it would end on Feb 19 and as of tonight the gentleman who has been posting regular updates based so on information they are receiving from Princess said the clock has not reset based on new cases....or at least not yet Thank you, is this on the Princess board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Carolyn Posted February 11, 2020 #131 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said: Maybe I misunderstood. Are there any ships other than the Diamond Princess that have had an outbreaK? We were in contact with someone on Anthem OTS while they sorted that out. They knew less than we knew. Has anyone seen any regular posts from the Diamond Princess? Yes, a British man has been doing regular updates from onboard for a week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #132 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Just now, Host Carolyn said: Yes, a British man has been doing regular updates from onboard for a week Not sure how I missed that, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheelin Posted February 11, 2020 #133 Share Posted February 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, Host Carolyn said: The folks on Princess ship in quarantine were told it would end on Feb 19 and as of tonight the gentleman who has been posting regular updates based so on information they are receiving from Princess said the clock has not reset based on new cases....or at least not yet Thank you. Best to have actual information instead of relying on uninformed speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted February 11, 2020 #134 Share Posted February 11, 2020 For those following this, The Princess board on CC has blown up to 41 pages on this topic, since Feb. 2. I'm starting to follow there as well: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2730905-diamond-princess-passenger-tested-positive-for-wuhan-coronavirus/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunNFunCruzer Posted February 11, 2020 #135 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Host Carolyn said: Yes, a British man has been doing regular updates from onboard for a week I am answering this question: "Maybe I misunderstood. Are there any ships other than the Diamond Princess that have had an outbreaK?" No, I don't think this information is accurate. I think Diamond is the only one with confirmed cases. Caribbean Princess has a Noro outbreak and is returning to port but as far as I know, they do not have Corona test kits so they have to send samples to the CDC. This was the protocol all over the US until a few days ago since test kits were so limited. I think the British Man that Carolyn is referencing is David Abel on the Diamond. Carolyn, is that correct? Edited February 11, 2020 by SunNFunCruzer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunNFunCruzer Posted February 11, 2020 #136 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: Not sure how I missed that, thanks. Here is a link to David Abel's channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBs-M0p8pDy1yIQgatSE2-w Last one from 2 hours ago: I have not heard about any confirmed cases on any other ship. Edited February 11, 2020 by SunNFunCruzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #137 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Tuesday update: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22431-coronavirus-cruise-impact-tuesday-update.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #138 Share Posted February 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Joe817 said: For those following this, The Princess board on CC has blown up to 41 pages on this topic, since Feb. 2. I'm starting to follow there as well: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2730905-diamond-princess-passenger-tested-positive-for-wuhan-coronavirus/ Fascinating read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted February 11, 2020 #139 Share Posted February 11, 2020 9 hours ago, SunNFunCruzer said: The Caribbean Princess that left 2/2/20 had a noro outbreak, was denied port calls in St. Kitts and Barbados - Is that really because of noro, or are these tiny Caribbean nations looking for any excuse to deny port stops to MegaLiners? Let me assure you that visiting cruise ships and their passengers are a necessary part of our island economy. "Looking for any excuse to deny port stops" -does not compute, sorry. Our taxi drivers are saddened by your non-arrival - and lunch places likewise. We need you, and are glad to have you land here although our public health officials must do what they think best in the island's interest. No offence or nuthin... Just clarifying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #140 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Aplmac said: Let me assure you that visiting cruise ships and their passengers are a necessary part of our island economy. "Looking for any excuse to deny port stops" -does not compute, sorry. Our taxi drivers are saddened by your non-arrival - and lunch places likewise. We need you, and are glad to have you land here although our public health officials must do what they think best in the island's interest. No offence or nuthin... Just clarifying. Well said and oh so true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #141 Share Posted February 11, 2020 More news https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/22430-thailand-doesn-t-want-the-westerdam.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #142 Share Posted February 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, Aplmac said: Let me assure you that visiting cruise ships and their passengers are a necessary part of our island economy. "Looking for any excuse to deny port stops" -does not compute, sorry. Our taxi drivers are saddened by your non-arrival - and lunch places likewise. We need you, and are glad to have you land here although our public health officials must do what they think best in the island's interest. No offence or nuthin... Just clarifying. While I understand the concern and angst, there is simply no reason not to cruise (or travel)in the US or Caribbean. Enjoy life, fear is a life sucker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aplmac Posted February 11, 2020 #143 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I hear Corona has made its way to Brasil. https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/virus-cases-back-on-the-rise-in-china-c-689620?fbclid=IwAR2REQTKxW3FvK0N2tX8TUGCjlI9HS_q-R_9RJY1lNZL3yVGx8WbD2CtbU8 This is NOT good news for us in the Americas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurab23 Posted February 11, 2020 #144 Share Posted February 11, 2020 We sail Sunday. I am concerned but am still sailing unless something drastic happens before then. I am more concerned because I have a cough from allergies that they could deny boarding to me. Laura 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2020 #145 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Laurab23 said: We sail Sunday. I am concerned but am still sailing unless something drastic happens before then. I am more concerned because I have a cough from allergies that they could deny boarding to me. Laura I have allergies as well and understand the thought process. Enjoy your cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted February 11, 2020 #146 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I have not gone through this entire thread, so this may have been posted already. Anyway, this is a useful "tool" from John Hopkins to follow what's going on with the virus and where it's spread: LINK The 135 "others" are the passengers from Diamond Princess who are known to be infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athankfulheart Posted February 11, 2020 #147 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I sail on the 29th on an Eastern Caribbean itinerary and will be happy to return with any info I feel may be of help to those sailing after me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Carolyn Posted February 11, 2020 #148 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Approximately 90 total doctors and nurses have been brought aboard Diamond Princess yesterday so passengers are anticipating they will now all be tested regardless of whether or not have fever or symptoms. Feb. 19 still date they are to be released from ship quarantine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT_Sea_Cruisers Posted February 11, 2020 #149 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 9:09 AM, WashCoCruisers said: That's right - I forgot about the manifest submission. However, I thought that was primarily used for terrorism suspects. Not entirely the case! Had a friend of a friend who was ready to embark with her husband, Homeland Security came and arrested him for outstanding warrants in Florida, he spent the cruise time in jail and she had to go ahead and go on the cruise!!! They wouldn't even let her get off the boat! I know this to be a fact as well. Last August we sailed to Alaska with a friend, who had the same date of birth and exact name as a wanted fugitive in Canada. He was taken when we docked in Canada by Canadian authorities and spent several hours before being returned when they confirmed it was a mistaken identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Granny Posted February 11, 2020 #150 Share Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Laurab23 said: We sail Sunday. I am concerned but am still sailing unless something drastic happens before then. I am more concerned because I have a cough from allergies that they could deny boarding to me. Laura I don’t sail until May, but if things are still crazy by then I think I’ll ask my doctor for a note saying my cough is from allergies and my blood pressure medicine. I think if I sailed as soon as you do a note from your doctor may come in handy if you can get it. Enjoy your cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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