Rare A&L_Ont Posted September 23, 2020 #76 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, bouhunter said: Very interesting to read the posts in this thread. Just based on this small sample, it looks like many won't cruise either because of virus concerns or because of the restrictions on the experience. And this is from cruise lovers on a cruise message board. The customer base for the first few months of cruising is going to be limited to the desperate diehards who will get onboard "just to get on a ship". It will likely be a healthy experience, and I suppose enjoyable to the customers who are happy to be cruising regardless where it's going or what the restrictions are. I don't get it, but wish them well. Those same diehards can be found on FB, but the numbers don’t seem to be enough to keep the lines busy enough. Well, at least until there a weakening of Covid, an effective vaccine or it disappears etc... 15 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: And any reatrictions placed on my activities while in port are a no go for me. Same for us, well at least one of our factors. 14 hours ago, John&LaLa said: One thing casual cruisers may not understand is that for some, cruising isn't a vacation, per se, its a lifestyle. Kind of like going to your local country club. Just something you're used to. That crowd is probably ok with most of the bullet points. I get it, I’m 30 minutes from mine. That being said not everyone lives a couple hours from the port, but many of the diehards do. They wouldn’t think twice about zipping to the port and jumping on the ship. No different than running to the store for a bag, I mean carton😉, of milk. That being said, I have been on more cruises the last few years than to the Club. 5 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: Masks plus port activity restrictions is a no go for me. The cruise could be free and my answer would be the same. I don't want to be unhappy even if it cost me nothing. Golf Clap. I think it’s time we flew to Antigua and went for some BBQ. Forget the Club for now. 😂😉 Edited September 23, 2020 by A&L_Ont 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted September 23, 2020 #77 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I have lost complete trust and faith with the CDC.Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted September 23, 2020 #78 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The CDC has become strictly political. That being said, if they approve cruising, I will go even with the restrictions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganMan4 Posted September 23, 2020 #79 Share Posted September 23, 2020 13 hours ago, Tapi said: To play devil’s advocate, what if instead of costing $10K, you could go on the same cruise for a fraction of the price but abiding by all the new protocols? Let’s say $2K. Would you do it? Or is it still a hard pass? Very good question... From my perspective it's not a price issue, it an experience issue. So soft pass, for now. For the next 12-24 months, the cruise line experience is going to change significantly. The social and free range aspect that used to be such a huge part of the cruise will be limited - I might be willing to give it a try (3 nighter / weekend cruise with my wife and I) but the mega family once a year vacation won't be on a cruise for a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouhunter Posted September 23, 2020 #80 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, MichiganMan4 said: For the next 12-24 months, the cruise line experience is going to change significantly. The social and free range aspect that used to be such a huge part of the cruise will be limited I think you're right, it's not going to be the same for quite some time. Hopefully the cruise lines will find enough paying customers to get them through this. That remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToroAzul Posted September 23, 2020 #81 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) On 9/21/2020 at 10:46 PM, Slidell_Cruiser said: Looks like my 10 cruises in 2021 may not happen, four B2B and longer length sails.... TOO much to Ask...... I pay for covid test I cannot Walk Around a Port I must use a ship tour I must wear a mask Sorry RC.... but I will save a LOT of money in 2021, maybe I’ll buy me a new Caddy..... Maybe in 2022 if things get back to the real normal Yup, I have a Bronco on reserve. Will road trip to free states. ETA: This is a move simply to appease CDC so ships can set sail and the companies can generate and KEEP income. I get it. I don't like it but I get it. Edited September 23, 2020 by ToroAzul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtime Cruizin Posted September 23, 2020 #82 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) As of this post, over 200 hard core cruisers that follow cruising on a message board have responded to the poll in this thread. Roughly 55% have stated they'd cruise regardless of the panel's recommendations. While this is very unscientific, it does tell us that the industry is in deep Doo-Doo going forward. Edited September 23, 2020 by Goodtime Cruizin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slidell_Cruiser Posted September 23, 2020 #83 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Goodtime Cruizin, My opine is....you are spot on sir. If they lose half of their loyal Cruisers, there is a problem. So as a long time cruiser with 10 booked this year and a TA for myself and a score of clients, we will take refunds when available from cancelled cruises with FCC as a backstop, even if they become un-useable due to restrictions, but no more cash to RCL until they sail by the REAL not the new normal, whenever that it...... i can believe I just wrote that since I’m as loyal to Royal as it gets, but hey is 2020. Stay safe everyone and to those who sail under these conditions, enjoy, I await your honest feedback.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted September 23, 2020 #84 Share Posted September 23, 2020 The recommendations not much of a surprise except possibly me having to get a test myself first. So they wouldnt change my mind about cruising. No one can say they like anything about life with covid. Cant shelter in place forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted September 23, 2020 #85 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) On 9/21/2020 at 5:25 PM, taglovestocruise said: Masks, social distancing, no roaming the ports, means no cruising for us. We are in Vegas every other month, place is a pain in the a**, only go to visit mother in law and not worth leaving Summerlin. Look at England. Lockdowns, masks, distancing and second wave now hitting. Time to let nature take it's course. What's the diff, whether you're on land or sea, gotta wear masks, test with symptoms, etc, etc. So we'd rather be cruising...no changes for us, and we'll get the vaccine ASAP. BTW we were both exposed about 16 days ago from the State Farm Agent who came out to insure our new home...he came down with symptoms on a Friday 3 days after we were with him and tested positive....so far so good..no symptoms after 14 day quarantine. Edited September 23, 2020 by BecciBoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted September 23, 2020 #86 Share Posted September 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, firefly333 said: The recommendations not much of a surprise except possibly me having to get a test myself first. So they wouldnt change my mind about cruising. No one can say they like anything about life with covid. Cant shelter in place forever. This is true. The cruise lines are in the spotlight. If there is a cluster traced to a ship, they will be between a rock and a hard place and unlike most businesses that are operating under state guidelines, the cruise industry has to answer to the federal government. That being said, so far (fingers crossed) there is evidence that following CDC protocols and rigorous testing is working on land, but it requires everyone to play by the rules. We are not out of the woods yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbowls30 Posted September 23, 2020 #87 Share Posted September 23, 2020 unfortunately due to our location having to fly from UK to pick up our cruises in the sates i doubt we will be doing that until things change. It will just become too risky with cost to travel all that way, provide a test from 5 days/24 hrs before and potentially get refused travel. That would mean we've paid lots of money out and potentially could be stuck in the states with no holiday and no way home...... too risky i'm afraid!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted September 23, 2020 #88 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, firefly333 said: The recommendations not much of a surprise except possibly me having to get a test myself first. So they wouldnt change my mind about cruising. No one can say they like anything about life with covid. Cant shelter in place forever. I like less traffic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted September 23, 2020 #89 Share Posted September 23, 2020 12 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said: I have lost complete trust and faith with the CDC. 7 hours ago, deliver42 said: The CDC has become strictly political. That being said, if they approve cruising, I will go even with the restrictions. Quite so and this does nothing to engender confidence in the cruising community. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare livingonthebeach Posted September 23, 2020 #90 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Looks like Dream Cruises are already sailing in Asia using their new protocols -- they're trying to make it look like it's loads of fun -- IDK if that is the experience I would want.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigi11111 Posted September 23, 2020 #91 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I can't imagine wearing a face mask once on the cruise ship...especially by the pool...Can you imagine the tan lines.... I just couldn't do this We are scheduled to sail next March I don't mind not being able to get off the ship but on board things should be close to normal where everyone is tested before they get on the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted September 23, 2020 #92 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I think the problem lies with trust of the cruise lines, or lack of it. Will they be like MSC in Europe and enforce their rules, or will they back away from confrontation, as I think they would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
depplep Posted September 23, 2020 #93 Share Posted September 23, 2020 That's a not at all for me. Don't want that experience. But as we only cruise once or twice a year, I guess I'm not diehard enough to miss it that much. I'll let you know if I change my mind after our trip to Mexico next month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted September 23, 2020 #94 Share Posted September 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, deliver42 said: I think the problem lies with trust of the cruise lines, or lack of it. Will they be like MSC in Europe and enforce their rules, or will they back away from confrontation, as I think they would? If they agree with the new procedures, that would allow them to sail again, and don’t enforce them, anything seriously happens, they are toast. The ships will be hanging around in the Caribbean and the crew will be home again. It might be the end of the line, no pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted September 24, 2020 #95 Share Posted September 24, 2020 12 hours ago, livingonthebeach said: Looks like Dream Cruises are already sailing in Asia using their new protocols They started in late July - about the same time Tui did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted September 24, 2020 #96 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 10:00 PM, Chrispmor said: I’m in. No different than a land vacation where masks are required inside generally everywhere now. I’m not sure why people think masks are being required outside/ at the pool. Clearly says that is not the case. Plus testing before boarding makes it much, much safer than eating at a restaurant or even going to the grocery store. Testing is pointless. A negative test today doesn't mean you won't test positive tomorrow or the day or two after, especially if you fly to port. I have been wearing a mask for 10 to 12 hours a day when at work since June. I still hate it. My job is very physical and at times I get dizzy or out of breath. I also won't travel to any place that requires you wear a mask while working around outdoors. I miss normal life more than I miss cruising. I'm not willing to drop a few thousand to have to possibly be quarantined on the ship or have to quarantine for 14 days when I return home. As far as not having to wear a mask on board while outdoors, I thought about it and realized that we spend more time indoors in the evening than outdoors during the day unless it's a sea day and then it's about the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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