Rare little britain Posted May 21, 2019 #1 Share Posted May 21, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48352026 Wonder what that may mean for the concessions on board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass2Cruise Posted May 21, 2019 #2 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Likely mean just a rename. Back to Giovannis perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxphil Posted May 21, 2019 #3 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I wonder how that will affect restaurants on RCI Ships BBC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallux Posted May 21, 2019 #4 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwich Cruiser Posted May 21, 2019 #5 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Probably be re branded as Giovanni's which we actually preferred. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted May 21, 2019 #6 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Has anyone ever had a meal in one of the land based restaurants? I was wondering how they compare to the ships restaurant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxphil Posted May 21, 2019 #7 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Feel free to merge this post They are very similar to the Land Based Restaurants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotraveller Posted May 21, 2019 #8 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I was on Spectrum last week and went to Jamie's a few times. It was excellent on the ship compared to the land restaurants I've visited. The land ones really didn't impress me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted May 21, 2019 #9 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I think this presents an opportunity to move away from co-branding with land based restaurants. I doubt they would move back to Giovanni's simply because they would want to come up with something newer/innovative. The current "trend" seems to be with dinners where the guests are involved in some of the prep and learning about their food. Perhaps "timed" dinner sessions served family style where people prepare pastas and side dishes in a semi-kitchen environment where the "mains" are prepared by chefs. A unique, immersive, fun experience that I think lends itself well to Italian cooking and its many varies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodgem Posted May 21, 2019 #10 Share Posted May 21, 2019 How many ships will this affect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted May 21, 2019 #11 Share Posted May 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said: Has anyone ever had a meal in one of the land based restaurants? I was wondering how they compare to the ships restaurant? The food is no better, and nowhere near worth the cost onboard. Will not miss them if RCL pulls them off their ships. Would be happy if they brought back Portofino. It's been downhill on quality ever since they left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 21, 2019 #12 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I miss Portofinos....would love to have that one come back. Alas...change is not always for the better that's for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 21, 2019 #13 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, orville99 said: ... Would be happy if they brought back Portofino. ... Or even Giovanni's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 21, 2019 #14 Share Posted May 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Host Clarea said: Or even Giovanni's. Which did you like better? I like the food at Giovanni's....but thought the set up and service was better at Portofinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 21, 2019 #15 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, island lady said: Which did you like better? I like the food at Giovanni's....but thought the set up and service was better at Portofinos. I liked things at each, hard to choose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted May 21, 2019 #16 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Host Clarea said: I liked things at each, hard to choose. Agree. Maybe RCI could come up with a survey about what features we liked from both...then combine them into a new Italian restaurant of their own ...that is not part of a chain. Oh what am I saying...that just makes too much sense for them to do something that simple. 😮😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxphil Posted May 21, 2019 #17 Share Posted May 21, 2019 "Jamie Oliver Holdings, which operates Jamie Oliver Limited and Jamie Oliver Licensing Limited, as well as the international restaurant franchise business, Jamie's Italian International Limited, will continue to trade as normal." No change for RCI ships then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted May 21, 2019 #18 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, sxphil said: "Jamie Oliver Holdings, which operates Jamie Oliver Limited and Jamie Oliver Licensing Limited, as well as the international restaurant franchise business, Jamie's Italian International Limited, will continue to trade as normal." No change for RCI ships then Not necessarily. I presume RCL is one of JIIL's franchisee's. Depending on the terms of the franchise agreement, RCL may very well be able (or even encouraged by JIIL) to terminate their agreement (Franchisors incur significant costs to support their franchisees). Considering that Jamie Oliver has sunk more than $3MM into the parent company to keep his ship afloat, the required franchisor support in the franchise agreement may disappear depending on what happens with the parent company's creditors in the British administration (bankruptcy) courts. Edited May 21, 2019 by orville99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkvillain Posted May 21, 2019 #19 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Host Clarea said: I liked things at each, hard to choose. I could go for the Portofino seafood skewer right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverbeenhere Posted May 21, 2019 #20 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Does Olive Garden have a cruise brand deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted May 21, 2019 #21 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, neverbeenhere said: Does Olive Garden have a cruise brand deal? That would be on par with Johnny Rockets. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted May 21, 2019 #22 Share Posted May 21, 2019 From a news source in Uk KPMG has so far declined to comment, but indicated only the UK side of the business is affected. Jamie's Italian has collapsed (Photo: Leon Neal/Getty Images) Oliver has 61 franchised outlets in 25 countries. He also has six on Royal Caribbean cruise ships, and a dozen more pencilled in to open later in 2019. A group statement said: "Jamie Oliver Holdings, which operates Jamie Oliver Limited and Jamie Oliver Licensing Limited, as well as the international restaurant franchise business, Jamie’s Italian International Limited, will continue to trade as normal. Fifteen Cornwall, which operates under a franchise, is also unaffected." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 21, 2019 #23 Share Posted May 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, Yorkvillain said: I could go for the Portofino seafood skewer right now. Speidino di Mare! Hard to for me to give up the Giovanni's risoto or tiramisu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy jones Posted May 21, 2019 #24 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Rapidly changing tastes, fads, and trends can quickly affect the restaurant business. Cruise lines are pretty good at adjusting to these changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpostman Posted May 21, 2019 #25 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, LMaxwell said: I think this presents an opportunity to move away from co-branding with land based restaurants. I doubt they would move back to Giovanni's simply because they would want to come up with something newer/innovative. The current "trend" seems to be with dinners where the guests are involved in some of the prep and learning about their food. Perhaps "timed" dinner sessions served family style where people prepare pastas and side dishes in a semi-kitchen environment where the "mains" are prepared by chefs. A unique, immersive, fun experience that I think lends itself well to Italian cooking and its many varies Would this mean that the guests involved in the food prep would also get a % of the pooled gratuities 😉 dp 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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