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3 hours ago, dswallow said:

Someone on the ship posted on Facebook that "they got 60 feet or so out and made a 360 turn back to port... the new propeller they put on fell off". Not sure how true that is, but still funny! 🙂

 

I hope that they didn't post that, because that would mean that they were heading straight out the way that they were already going.  😉

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It was said that the storm coming up was an added concern.  The “Welcome Aboard” show was at 9:45 and very funny.  John Blair and comedian both funny and apologetic.  Comedian had a number of jokes about Bermuda and why we should be glad we aren’t going to Bermuda.  The audience was in a “good sport mood” and took the jokes well.

 

From a personal level — I have certainly been on enough cruises to know that things can go wrong.  And ships are just machines and they do break down from time to time.  (Think your car, washing machine, dishwasher, computer, etc.).  My personal disappointment is that I was trying to be Pinnacle for an October cruise on Anthem.  Looks like that will not be happening.  Katherine

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13 minutes ago, rafinmd said:

I hope there's nobody from Florida on the Grandeur.

 

Roy

OMG, with all the ships choices down in Florida why would anyone want to sail on that ship? and don't say itinerary...that wouldn't even  sway me to sail on that ship.

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24 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

OMG, with all the ships choices down in Florida why would anyone want to sail on that ship? and don't say itinerary...that wouldn't even  sway me to sail on that ship.

I know this cruise was a Bermuda run but Grandeur sails a terrific 9 night to New England and Canada.  That would be a pretty long cruise from Miami all the way up to New England and Canada!

 

We has a great cruise on grandeur last month. 

 

I do hope everyone on the storms path are safe. 

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40 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

OMG, with all the ships choices down in Florida why would anyone want to sail on that ship? and don't say itinerary...that wouldn't even  sway me to sail on that ship.

Many people love Grandeur.  Classic, smaller ship, friendly crew, close to home, etc.  Grandeur has the most repeat passengers of any ship in the fleet.

 

Please don’t disparage my, or other cruisers, choice of ship.

 

 

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We were on the 8/22 sailing. The propulsion problems started sometime Wed. You could feel the ship vibrating. In the Crown Lounge the vibrations caused the chandelier parts to strike against each other making a noise. Thursday they announced that we would be arriving back at Balt dock Friday eve. They hoped to be able to make necessary repairs before the next sailing.

 

When we got into the bay, the ship really rolled side to side. Never experienced that before. Going over the Bay Bridge Tunnel in the daylight was also Very different. Normally the sky is dark both leaving the Bay and re entering the Bay. 

 

As promised we got back to the pier in Baltimore by 10pm Friday night. We could not leave the ship until Sat morning.

 

We were very fortunate on this cruise! We left Balt on 8/22 but had to return later that evening. medical evacuation of 2 passengers. Lady G did not go all the way back to the dock. A small vessel met the ship and transferred the passengers to the pier and waiting ambulances. The ship then took off full speed ahead to make up the lost time and get us to our first port on time. We were on time to all of the port destinations.

 

We spent a beautiful day at Coco Cay. RCI then closed the island and evacuated the staff that resides on the island. 

 

Arriving early into Balt did mean that the casino, shops and photo gallery had to be closed by noon on Friday. This was a small inconvenience for us. 

 

 

Very sorry for all the passengers that had their cruise cancelled. Refunds and future cruise credits are nice compensation but it still does not cover the disappointment of a cancelled cruise and for some, it does not replace time taken off from work.

 

The Captain needs to make decisions for the safety of the passengers, ship, and crew. 

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7 hours ago, dswallow said:

Someone on the ship posted on Facebook that "they got 60 feet or so out and made a 360 turn back to port... the new propeller they put on fell off". Not sure how true that is, but still funny! 🙂

Well, since Grandeur doesn't have "propeller's".  It has two diesel electric propulsion units.  Makes for a good joke, but nope.

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46 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

OMG, with all the ships choices down in Florida why would anyone want to sail on that ship? and don't say itinerary...that wouldn't even  sway me to sail on that ship.

 

There are many reasons why people choose to cruise on Lady G.  Itinerary can be one of those reasons. 

 

Yes, lots of ships in Florida but that also means long travel to the pier. Many people can drive to the Baltimore port in a few hours. It can be a large savings for families to drive instead of fly.

 

Baltimore has to be one of the friendliest ports we have cruised from. It is located right off of I-95. Arriving at the port, you drive right up to the ship and baggage is unloaded. If is not that traffic jam that happens at many of the ports. From that location, you drive up to the cashier and pay for the parking, park the car, and then head into the terminal. We arrived at the pier by 10:30 and boarding had already started. We quickly cleared security, checked in and proceeded right up the gangway and were on board by 11 am. 

 

The crew on the Grandeur are another reason to cruise on the Grandeur. Amazing crew!

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2 minutes ago, Host Clarea said:

 

The  propulsion units have propellers.

Yeah, but they are inside the unit, not free propellers like most people think of.  Not exactly something that can just "fall off".  My point really is people make up stuff and others start believing it because someone posted it.  Next thing you know it'll be all over the internet that the reason GR was cancelled was because the propeller is laying at the bottom of the Patapsco River. 😂

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19 minutes ago, BND said:

Yeah, but they are inside the unit, not free propellers like most people think of.  Not exactly something that can just "fall off".  My point really is people make up stuff and others start believing it because someone posted it.  Next thing you know it'll be all over the internet that the reason GR was cancelled was because the propeller is laying at the bottom of the Patapsco River. 😂

 

Not sure of what you mean by "free propellers",  but they are a fixed pitch propeller mounted on  a shaft and not within any pod or surrounding unit.  Basically diesel generator supplying power to two electric propulsion motors driving two shafted propellers.

 

From ship-technology.com;

 

 

PROPULSION

The vessel has electric propulsion, with two shaftings that have fixed-blade propellers (weighing 75t each). Each shafting is directly driven by an electric motor (17MW at 145rpm). The electric generation necessary to drive the motors is ensured by four generating sets. The electric motors are of synchronous three phase type with double windings, supplied by thyristor frequency converters to reduce the network harmonic level. A 6,600V/3,000V transformer supplies each converter from the 6,600V electric network.

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1 hour ago, rafinmd said:

I hope there's nobody from Florida on the Grandeur.

 

Roy

 

1 hour ago, Jimbo said:

OMG, with all the ships choices down in Florida why would anyone want to sail on that ship? and don't say itinerary...that wouldn't even  sway me to sail on that ship.

 

 

My response was to the above poster who was referring to people that lived in Florida..............So all those other comments as to why people sail on Grandeur from the east coast has nothing to do with my statement.

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50 minutes ago, BND said:

Yeah, but they are inside the unit, not free propellers like most people think of.  Not exactly something that can just "fall off".  My point really is people make up stuff and others start believing it because someone posted it.  Next thing you know it'll be all over the internet that the reason GR was cancelled was because the propeller is laying at the bottom of the Patapsco River. 😂

The Spectrum of the Seas Has a newer form of Azipod that looks like an enclosed system in pre finished photos..

 

The Grandeur as well as almostr all the ships with azipods use PROPELLERS that are totallyt exposed and if worse came to worse they could fall off.. This photo is the azipod propulsion system used by almost all cruise ships today...

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42 minutes ago, BND said:

Yeah, but they are inside the unit, not free propellers like most people think of.  Not exactly something that can just "fall off".  My point really is people make up stuff and others start believing it because someone posted it.  Next thing you know it'll be all over the internet that the reason GR was cancelled was because the propeller is laying at the bottom of the Patapsco River. 😂

This is the  system on the Spectrum of the Seas..PRE INSTALLATION// 

 

 

 

This is the actual installation once the azipods were ready for the propellers...https://www.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/video/1083/spectrum-of-the-seas-propeller-installation/

 

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1 hour ago, BND said:

My point really is people make up stuff and others start believing it because someone posted it.

Yes, things like the Grandeur doesn't have propellers.  As others have shown, Grandeur, like all RCI ships, has propellers.  Not trying to be snarky, but I do agree people posting without all the facts is VERY frustrating.

 

As far as the report about dropping a propeller, I have no idea as to its veracity.

 

I hope everyone impacted by this is able to come up with a good alternative that lets them enjoy the FCC!

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2 hours ago, Jimbo said:

OMG, with all the ships choices down in Florida why would anyone want to sail on that ship? and don't say itinerary...that wouldn't even  sway me to sail on that ship.

Quite a comment. Grandeur is a great ship. It is well kept with a great crew. It accommodates those who want a more traditional cruise experience. It allows for enjoying the sea while sailing rather than a resort/hotel experience.

 

It is a drive to port for many, and Baltimore is the easiest port for embarkation I have ever experienced.

 

I've sailed Quantum class, Freedom class, Mariner class, the first three Oasis class, and Vision class. I've enjoyed them all. But when I want to feel like being in touch with sailing, I look to Grandeur - the ship I sail most.

 

And I am far from alone. Every time I sail her, it's like a reunion with previous cruisers.

 

It is a drive to port for many, and Baltimore is the easiest port for embarkation I have ever experienced.

 

The 12 day Caribbean itineraries are great. Oh, I'm sorry - I forgot I was told not to say it.

 

All ships encounter mechanical problems.

 

Enjoy your Florida cruises; I'm sure there are no problems on those like a hurricane hitting their home ports.

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 I really don’t care  about the specific technicalities all I know is that basically we had a 30 minute cruise. I am happy that we were not stuck at sea or in bad weather.   

 

 Quite frankly I’m surprised we haven’t received a follow-up communication from Royal Caribbean. We left the ship last night. Two years ago  when we had an extended cruise, within five hours of departing the ship RCCL called us to make sure we did not have any problems getting home.    It’s not like they don’t have our email, as pre-cruise we received daily emails urging us to purchase drink packages, excursions, Internet,  dining packages etc. 

 

 I feel really badly for those who don’t  get to  cruise office or might not be able to use the future cruise credit on another cruise. 

 

 There were several groups on board and I know that those will be hard to replicate on another cruise 

 

M

 

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5 minutes ago, cruisegirl1 said:

 I really don’t care  about the specific technicalities all I know is that basically we had a 30 minute cruise. I am happy that we were not stuck at sea or in bad weather.   

 

 Quite frankly I’m surprised we haven’t received a follow-up communication from Royal Caribbean. We left the ship last night. Two years ago  when we had an extended cruise, within five hours of departing the ship RCCL called us to make sure we did not have any problems getting home.    It’s not like they don’t have our email, as pre-cruise we received daily emails urging us to purchase drink packages, excursions, Internet,  dining packages etc. 

 

 I feel really badly for those who don’t  get to  cruise office or might not be able to use the future cruise credit on another cruise. 

 

 There were several groups on board and I know that those will be hard to replicate on another cruise 

 

M

 

 

I can appreciate your feelings about a 30 minute cruise. We were watching the Ship Tracking to see if GOTS left the dock on time since we knew of the propulsion problem. We were happy to see the ship leave but, as we all know, the ship made a short run and turned back to the dock. At first we thought perhaps it was a medical emergency but when the ship did not leave the dock after an hour...well...we figured it had to be the propulsion problem.

 

Quite possibly you have not heard anything from RCI yet because, if employees are at their desks in Miami, they most likely have their hands full with the ships that are in the path of the hurricane. Many are evacuating the Florida coast area. Hotels, resorts, and attractions are closing. It may take a little time for you to hear from RCI. 

 

I know we were thankful that we did not cruise out of Florida. While we would have had flights reserved...the airports could be packed with people trying to get out of town. Inbound flights could be cancelled which would make outbound flights cancelled.  We were caught in that situation several years ago. Had to rent a car and drive to Orlando to get a flight home. 

 

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1 hour ago, John Reid said:

 

It is a drive to port for many, and Baltimore is the easiest port for embarkation I have ever experienced.

 

 

Enjoy your Florida cruises; I'm sure there are no problems on those like a hurricane hitting their home ports.

Wow, still didn't read what I commented about....and  By  the way I live in NJ and I don't consider any of the ports I sailed out of as my home Port, so don't know what you are talking about with that last comment.

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