New Covid-19 Cruise Ship Rules

[Ocean Boy]

7 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said:

I think the restrictions/policies are reasonable. Not fun, not my ideal way to cruise, but acceptable. Now, that being said, I would feel very different if it weren't for 2 other facts: 1. Where I live, we have restrictions EVERYWHERE, so Royal's policies aren't much different from where I live. If I have to deal with masks and social distancing, I'd rather be on a cruise ship than stuck at home. My wife and I have seen 3 cruises cancelled and 3 land-based vacations cancelled, too, so enough is enough. 2. The travel industry is getting hit with more bad news all the time, including a new travel ban set to begin tomorrow that will effectively stop most international travel to and from the US. If the cruise lines want to implement these measures and it's a choice of staying home or cruising with them, then bring on the masks! I know others feel differently. Everyone has to make up his/her own mind.

Hopefully, re-entering the U.S. after a cruise won't become overly burdensome. A 14 day (or any day for that matter) quarantine would certainly meet that definition.

[Ourusualbeach]

4 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Hopefully, re-entering the U.S. after a cruise won't become overly burdensome. A 14 day (or any day for that matter) quarantine would certainly meet that definition.

My feeling is this requirement will go away once the community transmission rates drop down to more manageable levels.

[DCGuy64]

1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said:

Hopefully, re-entering the U.S. after a cruise won't become overly burdensome. A 14 day (or any day for that matter) quarantine would certainly meet that definition.

Well, it's anybody's guess when the quarantine requirement would end (my wish is for sooner rather than later). But considering that the Jones Act requires a foreign stop, it means essentially anyone sailing from the US is going to be sailing abroad and would have to quarantine upon returning to the US. It's unclear to me how long the quarantine would be. I work from home so theoretically my quarantine would just be a continuation of the status quo. I wish they'd release more details.

[John&LaLa]

4 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

There is a huge difference between a passenger getting sick and a passenger being  told that they can’t sail. 

 

Wasn't there discussion for a while about mandatory insurance

[Ourusualbeach]

12 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Wasn't there discussion for a while about mandatory insurance

I think one of the lines sailing in Europe required it

[DCGuy64]

3 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

I think one of the lines sailing in Europe required it

MSC offered it "for free," which means it was already built into the cruise fare.

[jean87510]

2 hours ago, DCGuy64 said:

I think the restrictions/policies are reasonable. Not fun, not my ideal way to cruise, but acceptable. Now, that being said, I would feel very different if it weren't for 2 other facts: 1. Where I live, we have restrictions EVERYWHERE, so Royal's policies aren't much different from where I live. If I have to deal with masks and social distancing, I'd rather be on a cruise ship than stuck at home. My wife and I have seen 3 cruises cancelled and 3 land-based vacations cancelled, too, so enough is enough. 2. The travel industry is getting hit with more bad news all the time, including a new travel ban set to begin tomorrow that will effectively stop most international travel to and from the US. If the cruise lines want to implement these measures and it's a choice of staying home or cruising with them, then bring on the masks! I know others feel differently. Everyone has to make up his/her own mind.

The travel rules for testing do not include US territories (San Juan, USVI).  We had debated moving our Cozumel trip when we got the news a couple of weeks ago.  We researched air bnb and vrbo in those areas.  Then our AI said they would provide the testing for us in Cozumel.  By then my 2nd dose will be 5 weeks in.  Both my husband and I are testing before we go (have an online testing kit affiliated with lab corp) and will test in Cozumel.  New rules at least in my state are either a negative covid test 7 days later after back home or quarantine for 10 to return to work.  This all includes those who are vaccinated.  Yes this takes some juggling but can be done if we want to go to Cozumel.  I would rather be on a cruise ship but starting to think it isn't worth it with the policing.  That isn't a vacation to me.  I felt the same way when restaurants opened near me and everyone was outside in the heat with flies, sun and mosquitoes last summer.  For that amount of money with that experience, sorry, Ill eat at home.  As you said, everyone has to make up their mind.  With the latest EOs, I think I should hang onto more of my cruise money as I will probably need it for my increased taxes.

[hallux]

57 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said:

But considering that the Jones Act requires a foreign stop,

That would be PVSA, Jones Act is cargo...

[DCGuy64]

4 minutes ago, hallux said:

That would be PVSA, Jones Act is cargo...

Thanks for the correction, I often see the Jones Act quoted here on CC as pertaining to cruise ship passengers, hence why I quoted it.

[DCGuy64]

5 minutes ago, jean87510 said:

The travel rules for testing do not include US territories (San Juan, USVI).  We had debated moving our Cozumel trip when we got the news a couple of weeks ago.  We researched air bnb and vrbo in those areas.  Then our AI said they would provide the testing for us in Cozumel.  By then my 2nd dose will be 5 weeks in.  Both my husband and I are testing before we go (have an online testing kit affiliated with lab corp) and will test in Cozumel.  New rules at least in my state are either a negative covid test 7 days later after back home or quarantine for 10 to return to work.  This all includes those who are vaccinated.  Yes this takes some juggling but can be done if we want to go to Cozumel.  I would rather be on a cruise ship but starting to think it isn't worth it with the policing.  That isn't a vacation to me.  I felt the same way when restaurants opened near me and everyone was outside in the heat with flies, sun and mosquitoes last summer.  For that amount of money with that experience, sorry, Ill eat at home.  As you said, everyone has to make up their mind.  With the latest EOs, I think I should hang onto more of my cruise money as I will probably need it for my increased taxes.

Cozumel is a great destination! We went to Cancun last August and had a great time. For now, Cancun and its environs are getting trickier to navigate to. Curse this damned virus already!

https://www.traveloffpath.com/cases-surge-in-cancun-and-playa-del-carmen-as-governor-increases-risk-level/

 

[sfaaa]

8 hours ago, molly361 said:

And it will put off families with young children that won't be able to cruise since there's no vaccine for them yet

With reduced capacity, the ship will likely be filled with or without families with young kids.

[sfaaa]

4 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

 

Until they get hit with a class action ADA lawsuit

Bring it on. I will be happy to pay a mandatory COVID legal defense surcharge on my cruise ticket to keep the anti vaxxers away from me on the ship. 

[Biker19]

1 hour ago, DCGuy64 said:

Thanks for the correction, I often see the Jones Act quoted here on CC as pertaining to cruise ship passengers, hence why I quoted it.

And virtually every time someone corrects that poster, just as it happened in this thread. 

[ace2542]

3 hours ago, sfaaa said:

Bring it on. I will be happy to pay a mandatory COVID legal defense surcharge on my cruise ticket to keep the anti vaxxers away from me on the ship. 

There will no defence fund. I may have incorrectly believed the widely spread urban legend of the poodle in the microwave with stickers which did not happen despite being told it did in work training and school. But even I know you CANNOT in big capital letters sue Royal or another line for that matter for enforcing vaccine requirements. Because again surely guys would have sued nightclubs or bars for gender bias for not letting them in and that case has never been bought to my knowledge.

Edited January 26, 2021 by ace2542

[fandash03]

On 1/24/2021 at 4:33 PM, Keksie said:

Just more reasons to pick land based vacations and skip cruising for a very long time.

 

fully agree - why would anyone pay to do this. no enjoyment at all. I am currently looking to see what alternative holidays my family could do this year if we are allowed to fly/holiday without restrictions cos otherwise it is not a holiday in my opinion. 

[fandash03]

I dont think cruise lines will survive if this is what they are going with... just my opinion. they will need to wait to get back to normal to start back

Edited January 26, 2021 by fandash03
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[deliver42]

These are the new rules. It's up to you if you accept them or not. If the answer is not, then don't cruise.

[DCGuy64]

16 hours ago, Biker19 said:

And virtually every time someone corrects that poster, just as it happened in this thread. 

That hasn't been my experience, but that's neither here nor there. Next time I'll just say "US law" rather than specify which one. 😉🤣

[fandash03]

3 hours ago, deliver42 said:

These are the new rules. It's up to you if you accept them or not. If the answer is not, then don't cruise.

yep fully aware these are new rules - "rules they are " what a word when we are talking about a holiday.  A holiday is supposed to be fun and relaxing and that is why I have stated that I will be looking for another type of holiday and not cruise for a long time  with rules when I go on holiday 

[vacationlover_mn]

New rules is part of the reason I picked a GS for next year- if masks are required when lounging, I’ll just lounge on my comfy balcony 🙂. Lounging with an ocean view is half the reason I cruise 🙂

[jaredhamburg]

6 hours ago, deliver42 said:

These are the new rules. It's up to you if you accept them or not. If the answer is not, then don't cruise.

In some ways, yes.....but some of us have FCC to use in a certain time window.  We were not made aware of any potential rule changes when given FCC (back at the beginning of the pandemic mess).  I do not want to cruise under too many restrictive rules.  I am okay with waiting, but I do not think I should have to choose between going on a trip with a bunch of restrictions or losing out on my FCC.

[Tree_skier]

For me it will depend on what is going on on land.  Right now I can go to a restaurant but must mask to and from the table.  Same thing in bars.  When I go to the mall or any shop, which is one of the few forms of entertainment available, I must mask.  If these rules are still in place and cruising resumes with these kind of rules it wouldn't be a problem for me.  If I want to sit and and relax in a lounger without a mask I can do so on my balcony.  If I want to gamble, I'll need a mask.  That might be an advantage as I hate the smoke in the casino.  Sprikle a little essential oil on the mask and "Bob's your uncle", protection against the stench of smoke. Wearing a mask at a show would be less than ideal but at least I could go to a show.  I can't go to any form of entertainment currently.  If going to a show was allowed on land if you were wearing a mask I'd gladly wear a mask for 90 minutes just to have a little live entertainment.  There is no reason for me to complain about doing so on a ship.  If however, rules were substantially more restrictive on a ship than they were on land I would be hesitant.

[Iamcruzin]

10 hours ago, ChC said:

That is how prison operate.

Even in prison you can walk around with a beverage.

[Iamcruzin]

5 hours ago, fandash03 said:

yep fully aware these are new rules - "rules they are " what a word when we are talking about a holiday.  A holiday is supposed to be fun and relaxing and that is why I have stated that I will be looking for another type of holiday and not cruise for a long time  with rules when I go on holiday 

They are more like restrictions than rules. Another word that doesn't belong in the same sentence as vacation.

[ReneeFLL]

On 1/25/2021 at 11:48 AM, sandycruzr said:

Out of concern for the poster..if his video was against the rules he would have time to remove it before the

moderators caught it...nothing but love for this nice young man

You posted your comment over 5 hours after he made the post. Someone has I believe 20 minutes to change the wording. The post can only be deleted by a mod or maybe a host, but not sure.

Edited January 27, 2021 by ReneeFLL