From Mr Bayley - NO buffet

[A&L_Ont]

4 hours ago, bmw2 said:

I assume the diamond lounge will be a thing of the past also.  That was just a matter of time anyway.  We get 3 drinks a nite on our card now to use at bars during happy hour. 5:30-8:00 so bye bye for that.

I think they will be for a while in the beginning.  When there is herd immunity or a vaccine I they will return. I also tend to think they will limit numbers in the SL/CK. 

[hcat]

5 hours ago, JKHawaii said:

Everything I've read states that Coronavirus is highly unlikely to be spread by eating food, whether in the Windjammer or main dining room or the Top of the Hyatt.

New reports  on TV  today,  based on published studies say  that just talking puts droplets into the air, loud talking even more droplets..and they linger for anyone to breathe in..  Silent ordering or just point?

 

Let's hope chewing is okay!

Edited May 16, 2020 by hcat

[BillyBouy]

This is a thoroughly entertaining thread for sure, read the WHOLE thing.
Folks posting about how they don't like buffets. I'd expect they don't go to the buffet anyway.
Yup, lot of chance of cross-contamination in a buffet. And on every handrail, every wall, every chair, every elevator, basically, every hard surface on the ship. Narrow corridors, I could go on and on.
Casinos? Social distancing problem, shut 'em down. The main theater? same, shut it down. The Pool? Same, shut it down.
Just sit in your cabin and eat MREs, lol!
I'm sure the occupancy on the ships, especially the newer ones, are built around moving large amounts of folks through the buffets. Close down the buffet, no way the MDR's are capable of handling the massive increase of guests (keeping social distancing in mind), there just ain't enough square feet.
Just my observations and opinion.

[time4u2go]

22 minutes ago, BillyBouy said:

This is a thoroughly entertaining thread for sure, read the WHOLE thing.
Folks posting about how they don't like buffets. I'd expect they don't go to the buffet anyway.
Yup, lot of chance of cross-contamination in a buffet. And on every handrail, every wall, every chair, every elevator, basically, every hard surface on the ship. Narrow corridors, I could go on and on.
Casinos? Social distancing problem, shut 'em down. The main theater? same, shut it down. The Pool? Same, shut it down.
Just sit in your cabin and eat MREs, lol!
I'm sure the occupancy on the ships, especially the newer ones, are built around moving large amounts of folks through the buffets. Close down the buffet, no way the MDR's are capable of handling the massive increase of guests (keeping social distancing in mind), there just ain't enough square feet.
Just my observations and opinion.

Very good points.  People are so focused on the buffet while there are MANY other places in which a virus could spread.

[Ocean Boy]

57 minutes ago, hcat said:

New reports  on TV  today,  based on published studies say  that just talking puts droplets into the air, loud talking even more droplets..and they linger for anyone to breathe in..  Silent ordering or just point?

 

Let's hope chewing is okay!

What is all the talking in the MDR going to do as people order food then sit around making small talk with strangers while waiting for, and then eating, that food? Are those droplets going to be landing all over the table and other people's food?

 

This is getting to be ridiculous. I have been eating in buffets for years and never become ill. I guess everyone better start eating in their cabins or maybe just stay home.

[Iamcruzin]

1 hour ago, hcat said:

New reports  on TV  today,  based on published studies say  that just talking puts droplets into the air, loud talking even more droplets..and they linger for anyone to breathe in..  Silent ordering or just point?

 

Let's hope chewing is okay!

 Masks, social distancing and now no talking.  So I guess we will be sailing on Monastery  of the Seas. Yep where do I sign up 🙄

Edited May 16, 2020 by Iamcruzin

[Newleno]

1 hour ago, BillyBouy said:

Just sit in your cabin and eat MREs, lol!
 

give me a cheap price on a balcony and some decent ports and I might take you up on it!

[lovebunny2211]

What will they do with the elevators everyone is packed in them 

I can not walk the step I am handicap ....

[Ocean Boy]

4 minutes ago, lovebunny2211 said:

What will they do with the elevators everyone is packed in them 

I can not walk the step I am handicap ....

They will reset the weight limit so the alarm goes off after 2 adults enter. People will be lined up, appropriately socially distanced, all the way down the passageways waiting to board.

[zekekelso]

I'm not so sure the buffet is a cesspool of germs. But the lines will need to say they've made changes, and closing the buffets sounds good. 

[luckyinpa]

probly said before but whats the point of 'perfect sanitation' in the buffet if its not everywhere. im not a pool person specifically because you are shoulder to shoulder with people. its that way on every single ship unless you are on a canada cruise in october lol. in the theater, how many seats do you lose if people are 6 ft away. are they gonna wipe down every seat and door handle when someone touches it? imagine guest services lines and everyone at the counter. imagine the lines to get OFF the ship ever port and at home port. zero point of making the buffet safe unless every other thing is safe too. people dont respect their times/colors etc to get off now. is that really gonna change. no way. things like thermal spas etc are gonna have to be shut down. they are already small places. water slides...go carts, roller coasters, etc. even mini golf and the clubs. imagine how miserable it would be if they really did the protocols on all that stuff, i dont even think its possible. 

[Houndfish]

On 5/13/2020 at 2:08 PM, soloadventurer said:

From another site an interview with Mr Baley

 

"I think in the beginning, there will not be a buffet in the beginning, that's how I see it. It depends again upon the timing. We will utilize the space, we will utilize the Windjammer, but in all probability it won't be a classical buffet. It will be something more akin to a restaurant."

Like Morrisons?

[Ourusualbeach]

6 hours ago, A&L_Ont said:

I also tend to think they will limit numbers in the SL/CK. 

My guess is that JS’s will lose the ability to make dinner reservations at CK. 

[A&L_Ont]

10 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

My guess is that JS’s will lose the ability to make dinner reservations at CK. 

and perhaps limits on Pinnacles when there are many of them.  Maybe they get Chops for breakfast and lunch. 

[Milwaukee Eight]

6 hours ago, A&L_Ont said:

I think they will be for a while in the beginning.  When there is herd immunity or a vaccine I they will return. I also tend to think they will limit numbers in the SL/CK. 

I hope you right. In your opinion, how will they manage this?

[rich_cathybrock]

8 hours ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

Like in the casino — not sure if they can still be profitable and close the casinos.  Casinos and bars will likely be the last to open on land and those two areas provide lots of onboard revenue for the cruise line.  Should be interesting how they do it.  

If the odds of getting Covid are roughly the same as the odds on the slot machines, casinos may be a safe bet.  I see a lot of remote gambling apps in our future, and that just isn't the same.  Just saying...😁 

[zalusky]

Bathrooms are going to be fun!  They better leave the doors open.

[FiftyOnePlus]

If they take Buffets off cruise ships, then I wont be going.

Buffets do not need to be removed.
Those who dont like them, dont go to them.

Buffets were fine before Covid 19 came along....and now all of a sudden they are being blamed for it?
Nope.

 

 

[SNJCruisers]

12 hours ago, SNJCruisers said:

Any 7 or 8 day itineraries?

 

10 hours ago, livingonthebeach said:

Not sure but think they will mostly do 3-5 days at least for the Caribbean.  

Everything I had seen early on were all short cruises that did not seem to offer me the value that I seek from the various mass market lines.  If they change their marketing strategy my stance may change but if not there are many competitors that will earn my vacation dollar.

[SNJCruisers]

6 hours ago, Iamcruzin said:

 Masks, social distancing and now no talking.  So I guess we will be sailing on Monastery  of the Seas. Yep where do I sign up 🙄

How many sailings till you reach "monk status"?

[soloadventurer]

What about allocating ships to age ranges ie smaller ships Empress all those 65 plus NO Buffet just dinning rooms  

The biggest ships 18-40 full buffet 

[livingonthebeach]

14 minutes ago, soloadventurer said:

What about allocating ships to age ranges ie smaller ships Empress all those 65 plus NO Buffet just dinning rooms  

The biggest ships 18-40 full buffet 

 

What happened to the 40-65 group?  They are denied boarding?  LOL

[badvector]

There's been a lot of talk here but in my opinion nobody has really captured the biggest loss in all of this.  BACON.  You heard me, good old grease dripping, mouth watering, B A C O N.  Sure I can get it at the MDR or via room service; but what are we talking about? Maybe 4 strips?  Come on man, really?  My poor waiter would lose 10 pounds making trips back to the kitchen for refills.  Nothing screams enjoyment on a cruise like sitting at a table just outside the WJ with the warm sea breeze blowing through your hair and a plate stacked full of crispy, smoky pork deliciousness.  Now if you'll excuse me I have to go take my cholesterol medication and check my blood pressure. 

 

 

[danv3]

11 hours ago, zekekelso said:

But the lines will need to say they've made changes, and closing the buffets sounds good. 

 

This is what it really comes down to.  Like wearing masks, it's all about doing things that appear to be helpful in combating coronavirus, regardless of whether they're actually helpful.

 

(Now if we want to mitigate norovirus on ships, then yeah, the buffet needs to go.)

[soloadventurer]

36 minutes ago, livingonthebeach said:

 

What happened to the 40-65 group?  They are denied boarding?  LOL

 

 

They get the Explorer without the ice-cream machine lol