Would you cruise if Wearing a mask is mandatory?

[JT1962]

I decided I might as well have some fun at this point, got this mask to wear for anywhere that mandates a mask.

[Ocean Boy]

6 minutes ago, mek said:

I really don't understand what the big deal is about wearing a mask in public - I do it as a sign of respect for others and honestly it makes sense to me that it does help contain some viral droplets. Why not do it?

 

Do you not wear a seatbelt in a car?  Are your personal freedoms compromised because we are required by law to wear one?

 

10 pages on this thread alone and you don't understand some of the opposing viewpoints?

 

Well, here is a new twist which is my musing over a cup of coffee and a very slow holiday morning in the hospital......

 

Actually, if you look at the animal kingdom, which we humans happen to be a part of,  protection of the air passagways seems to be a pretty universal instinct. There is little tolerance for anything that impedes the free flow of air. My dog will tolerate a leash, which is somewhat equivilent to your seatbelt reference, but try in any way to cover her nose or pinch it off and she will have no part if it. So, somehow, we are more intelligent than all the other beings in the kingdom because we will give in to the "experts", or give into peer pressure, who say we should cover our faces when the instinct to protect the free flow of gas exchange has evolved, for very good reason, over millions of years.....

 

Or maybe slow mornings are not good for me and that this adversion to masks has nothing to do with the above and it is as simple as the reasons that have been stated over the course of this, and several other, threads.🤔

[HxFx]

45 minutes ago, mek said:

I really don't understand what the big deal is about wearing a mask in public - I do it as a sign of respect for others and honestly it makes sense to me that it does help contain some viral droplets. Why not do it?

 

Do you not wear a seatbelt in a car?  Are your personal freedoms compromised because we are required by law to wear one?

 

It’s one thing to wear a mask at a grocery store, pharmacy, etc. Those are places that may be necessary for a vulnerable person to be. Plus, you don’t wear it for long periods at a time and shouldn’t have a need to take your mask off and on multiple times. 

 

If you are vulnerable, or nervous, then you should not be at the beach, restaurant, or on a cruise. If you have a family member that’s vulnerable then you and your family member will have to decide whether you will be able to see each other before a quarantine period if the non-vulnerable person ventures out into the world.

[goldfish65]

20 hours ago, mek said:

And you could really be happy just staying in your cabin and balcony for an entire week or more?  Other than the sea view how is that really much different from what we are doing now at home? I have a lovely patio with a beautiful view - I can stay here and and relax while reading a book with a cocktail and save thousands with no worry about a mask, social distancing, or contracting a virus.

 

I am assuming we could walk around decks 4 and 9, not be locked inside our cabin 24/7. You see, I have this fascination with reliving the slowness and remoteness that passengers felt 100 years ago doing an ocean crossing. Being far away from land. I understand that's not the reason most people board a ship.

[harkinmr]

2 hours ago, Computer Nerd said:

If you'd like a tissue for your tears I'll be happy to send you one free of charge. You make it sound like not wearing a mask is the equivalent of the Titanic or Poseidon Adventure.

 

My personal freedoms (and yours) were paid for by my 21 years in the military. I ain't crawling no where and if you don't like it you can go find some nice little socialist country to go live in.

What a tired trope!  Serving in the military does not give you the right to disregard rules and regulations OR to endanger your fellow man.  What I meant by "disaster" is that if there is an outbreak on a cruise ship after reopening, that it will result in another shut down and might even be permanent.  Rest assured that the cruise lines are aware of this and that they will be relying on the cooperation of passengers.  I'll use the tissue you'll send me to wave at you as they escort you off the ship!

[Biker19]

1 hour ago, mek said:

Do you not wear a seatbelt in a car?  Are your personal freedoms compromised because we are required by law to wear one?

Seat belts have 50+ years of science, facts and information about their benefits - wearing a mask to help with covid has almost none.

[ECCruise]

14 minutes ago, Biker19 said:

Seat belts have 50+ years of science, facts and information about their benefits - wearing a mask to help with covid has almost none.

When seat belts were implemented (by law) there was nowhere near 50+ years of science and facts.  Literally a couple of years since not that long before they were required they didn't really exist.

As for mask, thanks but I am willing to wait for all the research to be completed (although "almost none" is a stretch).

Wearing a mask just isn't a big deal.  And I have both COPD and emphysema.  I wear it when I am in areas where there are others to protect them (ya know, the whole asymptomatic thing) and would hope they would do the same for me.  

Egad, the way some people react, you would think that wearing a mask would require you to also pull around a 200 pound ball and chain, walk barefoot over fresh coals while singing the entire Hamilton soundtrack (explicit version). 

It's a 1 oz piece of fabric.  Worn for limited times.  Honestly, your "freedom" will survive.

[Tree_skier]

Here is one of those great politicians demanding we all wear masks, Gov Ralph Northam (D) of Virginia.

 

Enjoying his time at a Virginia beach on the Memorial Day weekend.

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by Tree_skier

[Tree_skier]

Here is another... This time one from Canada.

 

Mayor John Tory (Ind) Mayor of Toronto, where $880 fines are common for violations, wearing his mask at Trinity Bellwoods Park enjoying the sun with 100's of other people. 

 

 

[whyrlygig]

I voted yes but, sadly, it will be a long time before I will be comfortable cruising again.  

[coffeebean]

2 hours ago, Biker19 said:

Seat belts have 50+ years of science, facts and information about their benefits - wearing a mask to help with covid has almost none.

The virus is transmitted via droplets form the nose and mouth when a person breathes, speaks, coughs and sneezes. Face mask coverings block the droplets from escaping into the air. This video demonstrates how a mask blocks droplets..........

 

 

[Tree_skier]

2 minutes ago, coffeebean said:

The virus is transmitted via droplets form the nose and mouth when a person breathes, speaks, coughs and sneezes. Face mask coverings block the droplets from escaping into the air. This video demonstrates how a mask blocks droplets..........

 

 

Because a promotional video from a guy selling marks is really good science.

 

If you're interested in real science on masks read the following.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

[coffeebean]

35 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

Because a promotional video from a guy selling marks is really good science.

 

If you're interested in real science on masks read the following.

 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

This video demonstrates a simple basic concept which is exactly what the general public needs to understand how masks block droplets. I think this demonstration is extremely effective.

 

I'm interested in real science on masks and I have seen a few videos demonstrating how droplets are blocked in the mask using infrared and black light. Same result but the T-Shirt demo really brings it home.

 

The video you posted is more about how masks do not protect the wearer of the mask. Most people know this by now. My video was to demonstrate how wearing a masks protects people around the wearer of the mask.

Edited May 25, 2020 by coffeebean

[cyclenut]

If we are supposed to wear a mask, I'd wear one.  It's not that big of a deal.  Obviously you can't wear one while doing certain activities and I would expect them to understand that.  Waterslides, flowrider, swimming, etc.  Dining is a no.  Drinking in the bar is a no.  Anything that requires frequent hand to mouth.  

 

However, during certain assemblies (e.g. Muster) or shows, no issues for me.  Anyone who has a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask should seriously reconsider cruising as they are at high risk anyway.  

 

Once we have a vaccine, I think this whole thing will be a non-issue.  You will likely have to show proof of vaccine as you do for other sorts of travel (e.g. Yellow Fever in some areas).  

[A&L_Ont]

4 hours ago, Ocean Boy said:

10 pages on this thread alone and you don't understand some of the opposing viewpoints?

 

It’s the new dress code thread. 😉

[molly361]

6 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

It’s the new dress code thread. 😉

Formal night

[Retired LEO]

7 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Same thing started in Deland last weekend.  Rumor has it these group’s will be back June 6th. Just sad. 

I'd like to see Air-1 equipped with a water cannon. 

[Tree_skier]

45 minutes ago, coffeebean said:

This video demonstrates a simple basic concept which is exactly what the general public needs to understand how masks block droplets. I think this demonstration is extremely effective.

 

I'm interested in real science on masks and I have seen a few videos demonstrating how droplets are blocked in the mask using infrared and black light. Same result but the T-Shirt demo really brings it home.

 

The video you posted is more about how masks do not protect the wearer of the mask. Most people know this by now. My video was to demonstrate how wearing a masks protects people around the wearer of the mask.

Your video is non-scientific commercial advertising from a distributor of masks with a financial vested interest in the promotion of mask sales.  My article, not video, produced by the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Reearch and Policy demonstrates that wearing a mask may present a bigger risk than not wearing one.  For 10 weeks we've been told to trust the science.  That's what I'm doing.  Getting scientific information from a mask merchant on Youtube isn't science.

[A&L_Ont]

1 hour ago, molly361 said:

Formal night

If my designer mask has holes in it, can I wear it on Formal Night in the MDR?

[Biker19]

6 hours ago, ECCruise said:

When seat belts were implemented (by law) there was nowhere near 50+ years of science and facts.

There's a bit of difference between the gov't requiring cars be fitted with seat belts (late 60s) and requiring them to be used (late 80s to early 90s).

 

Also, a bit of a diff between the seat belt which is protecting the user, vs. a mask which supposedly is used mostly to protect others.

Edited May 25, 2020 by Biker19

[Jax129]

NO,ABSOLUTELY NOT IN A MILLION YEARS

[Computer Nerd]

9 hours ago, RETNAVY1996 said:

If it makes others feel better, why the hell not.  It’s really for mutual protection.   

Maybe therein lies the difference. I really down't care about how others feel (just as they don't care about how I feel). Someone else's emotions is their problem to deal with, not mine.

[sugcarol]

https://news.yahoo.com/creepy-clever-face-mask-opens-202700659.html

[mek]

On 5/25/2020 at 9:19 AM, Ocean Boy said:

10 pages on this thread alone and you don't understand some of the opposing viewpoints?

 

Well, here is a new twist which is my musing over a cup of coffee and a very slow holiday morning in the hospital......

 

Actually, if you look at the animal kingdom, which we humans happen to be a part of,  protection of the air passagways seems to be a pretty universal instinct. There is little tolerance for anything that impedes the free flow of air. My dog will tolerate a leash, which is somewhat equivilent to your seatbelt reference, but try in any way to cover her nose or pinch it off and she will have no part if it. So, somehow, we are more intelligent than all the other beings in the kingdom because we will give in to the "experts", or give into peer pressure, who say we should cover our faces when the instinct to protect the free flow of gas exchange has evolved, for very good reason, over millions of years.....

 

Or maybe slow mornings are not good for me and that this adversion to masks has nothing to do with the above and it is as simple as the reasons that have been stated over the course of this, and several other, threads.🤔

 

10 pages of previous post have nothing to do with me responding to something that was just posted.

 

No, I don't understand the opposing views - people are entitled to them, but that doesn't mean I have to agree.  As long as there isn't a medical reason involved where wearing a mask is not a good idea, (and those people are probably high risk and shouldn't be out anyhow), I don't understand what the big deal is about wearing one right now.  As far as preventing the flow of air - give me a break.  Some of the things I see people wear in no way can impede breathing, but I do believe they keep infected people from spreading SOME droplets.  

Again, I do it out of respect for others, not because I think it will protect me.

 

Edited May 26, 2020 by mek

[Kwaj girl]

If anyone says " I want to stay safe" ONE.MORE.TIME..😒