Anyone else just giving up on a cruise for a while?

[Fouremco]

3 hours ago, Happy Cruiser 6143 said:

 

I agree.  If taking a covid vaccine is a requirement to cruise, I'm out.  They have been trying to come up with a vaccine for corona viruses for years with no success.  Don't see how they can now suddenly succeed.

I'm not sure that I understand your logic. If they can't develop a vaccine for COVID-19, the cruise lines won't make it a requirement. On the other hand, if they are successful in developing a viable and approved vaccine, are you saying that you still wouldn't get vaccinated?

[Pinboy]

We wont be cruising for quite a while --- too costly, most likely there will be too many restrictions, daily testing , I believe there will be verbal and possible physical conflicts amongst passengers and Staff , ----overall, just not as much fun as in the past. 

Truly, being a " newcomer "  to CC I would have enjoyed meeting so many of you--- maybe another time. 

 

[hcat]

43 minutes ago, Duanerice1 said:

Ha.  I live in SW Florida so that's daily for us.  We bike ride to Sanibel every weekend.  Looking for a change.

Sounds like the mountain plan is perfect for you! Hope you enjoy the change of scenery, hiking and that  outdoor fireplace.

 

We love Venice Fl  and have been away  for many months due to Covid concerns., 

There are some areas north of Tampa with lakes and fewer palm trees that we are hoping to visit as soon as we feel comfortable at a resort...til then it's the gulf coast!

[Nymich]

We are booked on x for april and I have until December to change or cancel it.  Too many unknowns with ports and travel insurance etc......

If we do go it would be a last minute quick decesion as we are close to all the fla. Ports.  I may be willing to do something spur of the moment.  If i think too much about it I probably would back out.  I know that sounds nuts but thats how I feel at this time.

[RichYak]

1 hour ago, leck57 said:

 

...I would expect having a Covid Vaccine will be mandatory for a few years at least...

Zero chance of this, IMO.

[Fouremco]

1 minute ago, RichYak said:

Zero chance of this, IMO.

Based on?

[RichYak]

2 minutes ago, Fouremco said:

Based on?

Based on my opinion.

[fstuff1]

11 hours ago, Duanerice1 said:

I know most of us on here are chomping at the bit to get on a cruise, otherwise we wouldn't be on Cruise Critic.  I see a lot of people willing to go ahead as soon as the lines start cruising.  But as anxious as I am to cruise and looking at some of the great deals out there (sadly not Celebrity), I still can't pull the trigger and book one.

 

I'm not cruising until things get back to "normal", whatever that is going to be.  I'm fine with lot's of disinfectants, staff serving me at a buffet, etc.  But I'm not wearing a mask on a cruise or not being able to go to a show because of social distancing,  or sit in a bar, etc.   I'm not going to take a ships excursion or not be able to walk around in port on my own.  Oh and it's not about having to wear a mask, social distancing, etc. as I abide by those protocols now.  It's not that I'm afraid to catch Covid (but don't want to, lol).  But that's not a cruise I want to be on.  

 

If other people want to cruise, more power to you and I hope you have a blessed time.  It's just not the vacation for me right now.  If the cruises were half price..... I might consider but not sure I'd even go then.  Cruises will get back to somewhat normal.  It's not if, but when.  It might be 6 months, might be 2 years.  And yea, there will probably be some protocols in place but not much.  Six months after most of the population has a vaccine, most things will be back to the old normal.  People tend to forget......

 

We are leaving next week for 8 nights in a cabin outside of Blue Ridge GA.  Lot's of hiking, sitting in front of the fireplace on the patio and just exploring the area.  

 

Be safe all with whatever you choose to do!

Duane

 

 

i'm ok with wearing a mask.

i play poker at my local casino for about 8hrs every weekend so im used to wearing a mask.

 

but not booking a cruise till one actually sails.

 

[PhoenixCruiser]

 
I agree.  If taking a covid vaccine is a requirement to cruise, I'm out.  They have been trying to come up with a vaccine for corona viruses for years with no success.  Don't see how they can now suddenly succeed.

Perhaps but now a vaccine is a requirement not just something that would be nice.

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[sandancer]

16 hours ago, ROYALBOY said:

Well we have a booking on Reflection British Isles in July, which I still think might be an iffy time frame, however everything we booked can be cancelled.

We also have the Apex TA out of Barcelona in Oct 2021, which I think is much more realistic to get on. We still have not been in a sit down restaurant here in Florida so far, so it’s nice to plan for cruising, but also be aware of the realities. 

We are also on the Apex TA next October and I refuse to even contemplate not going. 

[leck57]

31 minutes ago, sandancer said:

We are also on the Apex TA next October and I refuse to even contemplate not going. 

 

Sounds familiar. I had 3 cruises booked for April through August and I also refused to contemplate not going. I'll just ignore the doomsday lot and stare them down.

Guess what? I didn't go.

I hope by October all is good.

[mac_tlc]

Either the cruise line has cancelled or we have lifted and shifted everything until May 2021. I would move that one too if the calendar cooperated. After that, our next cruise is August 2021. 
 

I don’t have issues wearing a mask, but part of me says that if that is a requirement, then we are not far enough along in controlling the virus’s impacts. Plus, sorry to say, I do not trust others to follow the rules and help protect me and my wife. 
 

As final payment dates get close, we will make the decisions. I wish Celebrity would release some more 2022 cruises  so I could L&S my May 2021 cruise. Am getting tired of the constant “what-if” and wondering. 
 

mac_tlc

[ABoatNerd]

12 hours ago, OuiOnboard said:

I remember too well the trend toward modern cruising and agree with your comment completely. Really enjoyed cruising in the old days and can wait to see if they are worth it again in the future.

 

Spot on OuiOnboard.  Seems many on the CC boards have forgotten all  the downgrading going on before the virus. 

Logic would deem that the cruise lines will continue with the downgrading, in fact, increase it, due to their financial position.

 

If and when cruises commence, I will be watching to see the posts from CC members complaining about the product.

[bouhunter]

19 hours ago, Duanerice1 said:

I know most of us on here are chomping at the bit to get on a cruise, otherwise we wouldn't be on Cruise Critic.  I see a lot of people willing to go ahead as soon as the lines start cruising.  But as anxious as I am to cruise and looking at some of the great deals out there (sadly not Celebrity), I still can't pull the trigger and book one.

 

I'm not cruising until things get back to "normal", whatever that is going to be.  I'm fine with lot's of disinfectants, staff serving me at a buffet, etc.  But I'm not wearing a mask on a cruise or not being able to go to a show because of social distancing,  or sit in a bar, etc.   I'm not going to take a ships excursion or not be able to walk around in port on my own.  Oh and it's not about having to wear a mask, social distancing, etc. as I abide by those protocols now.  It's not that I'm afraid to catch Covid (but don't want to, lol).  But that's not a cruise I want to be on.  

 

If other people want to cruise, more power to you and I hope you have a blessed time.  It's just not the vacation for me right now.  If the cruises were half price..... I might consider but not sure I'd even go then.  Cruises will get back to somewhat normal.  It's not if, but when.  It might be 6 months, might be 2 years.  And yea, there will probably be some protocols in place but not much.  Six months after most of the population has a vaccine, most things will be back to the old normal.  People tend to forget......

 

We are leaving next week for 8 nights in a cabin outside of Blue Ridge GA.  Lot's of hiking, sitting in front of the fireplace on the patio and just exploring the area.  

 

Be safe all with whatever you choose to do!

Duane

 

We're of the same opinion.  Looks like a lot of people even at a cruise website feel the same way based on the posts here.  I don't think they'll struggle to meet their 50% or whatever occupancy level.  We do not fear the virus, but we are in no way interested in masks, port restrictions, and who knows what restrictions on the ship.    Personally I can't imagine being so addicted to "being on a ship" to put up with the experience that will be in place for a while.  

[TeeRick]

16 hours ago, Happy Cruiser 6143 said:

 

I agree.  If taking a covid vaccine is a requirement to cruise, I'm out.  They have been trying to come up with a vaccine for corona viruses for years with no success.  Don't see how they can now suddenly succeed.

In general, almost zero real effort was put into developing coronavirus vaccines until the current COVID situation.  

[Pinboy]

3 hours ago, leck57 said:

I'll just ignore the doomsday lot and stare them down.

That's a " Good one ".   I like the " stare them down " part. 

So, to understand,  Cruising is THAT important ???

 

[Elevatorman]

Not so much giving up as,  I want to see how the first 6 months of cruising goes. I want to see no ambulances taking people off to go into hospital . I want to see no people quarantined in their cabin. I want to see ports allowing cruisers to get off and walk around.  I want to read reviews of the embarking and debarking and elevators during busy meal times. Then I’ll feel better about going.

[BigAl94]

Not interested in getting into a lift and switch or future cruise credit position. As the pandemic is ongoing, worsening if anything and stories emerging of limited vaccinations even when available we are not even thinking about cruising until this is all over (if ever)

[4774Papa]

 We have a cruise booked in October 2021 and would expect that a vaccine is available prior to that date.

We are good with taking the vaccine and the cruise line requiring a vaccine.

[fizzy1]

Like you replied to me, we are both on the Feb 2022 Millennium cruise and I am certain that will go and have minimal restrictions. The vaccine will be widely available by June/ July 2021, plenty of advance time for us. Should be a very good 10 days.


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[Happy Cruiser 6143]

17 hours ago, Duanerice1 said:

Ha.  I live in SW Florida so that's daily for us.  We bike ride to Sanibel every weekend.  Looking for a change.

 

True, although we've not had the normal amount of sun lately.  Even though I live on the water, I want to wake up, open my shutters, and see OCEAN! 

[nocl]

4 hours ago, TeeRick said:

In general, almost zero real effort was put into developing coronavirus vaccines until the current COVID situation.  

With the exception of SARS and MERS, both of which have vaccine candidates that have not competed testing (SARS due to the illness vanishing after being successfully controlled,  MERS due to the low incidence and high cost of testing, though Moderna appears to be planning a phase 3 trial for their candidate).

 

As you say any of the other human corona virus not worth effort.  There are several corona virus vaccines in animals though.

[OnTheJourney]

On 10/4/2020 at 12:33 PM, Duanerice1 said:

I'm not cruising until things get back to "normal", whatever that is going to be. 

 

I get what you're saying, and a part of me pulls in that direction also; however, at 64 years old with a few increasing health issues, another part of me begs the question as to how much of life do I want to give up in the interim between now and, as you say, whatever might at some point be construed as "normal"? Even before covid, I've started to suspect that my bucket list will never even be half scratched off in the reasonable amount of travel time that I have left (will I really still feel like doing extensive international travel in my 80's...if I even make it that far?)  So....there are factors to balance out here. Travel put aside for a second, I've already given up more than I would have ever deemed possible just a mere 8 months ago. If someone had told me I wouldn't be allowed to visit my Mom in her assisted living facility (in person at least) for over 7 months AND now that we can visit (under strict guidelines) not even be allowed to go up to her room - I'd probably have laughed and said you must be joking. Haven't seen my daughter (again, in person) since New Year's Day.

 

Just what is this "new normal" going to look like and how does it wind up interfacing with future travel plans? If it's one where I deem travel - even in the short term (whatever that might be) - no longer safe and look back wistfully at what was and now say...ok....so I guess that's all over with...and be content to just look at pics of past trips - that's one scenario. Another is to throw caution to the wind and go on the first cruise we have booked that actually goes as scheduled and try to be as safe as we can. Somewhere in the middle of the two extremes is the area of uncertainty. I hate all that goes with the uncertainty, to be honest. I love the planning and anticipation of any and all trips, and much of that enthusiasm is dampened as it pertains to trips we currently have scheduled within the next year.

 

So it would appear to be more complex than simply a matter of "giving up on cruising for awhile". Without being able to truly define what "awhile" is - and I don't think any of us can - it creates an interesting and complicated situation that requires a bit of soul searching as to what each of our individual thresholds are that will or will not allow us to continue travel. Peace of mind is worth something too. For the occasional traveler who has done some, but for whom it isn't a passion, much easier to say 'I'll just pass on this till things get better'. But, for someone like myself - and I suspect many of us - who in a big way LIVE to travel - and for whom it constitutes a large part of who we are, the question takes on much greater magnitude, not to mention being accompanied by the rather sinking feeling of precious time being lost that can't be bought back with future cruise vouchers. 

 

OK...enough nickel and dime philosophy. Sorry for rambling!!!!

Edited October 5, 2020 by OnTheJourney

[jagoffee]

18 hours ago, leck57 said:

 

Then I suspect your cruising days are over for some time. I would expect having a Covid Vaccine will be mandatory for a few years at least, and I personally have no issue with that.

I do not objective to vaccines in general.  I always get the regular flu shot even though it is not necessarily highly effective.

I just do not see a potential COVID vaccine being a hard requirement.  At least not on US based cruises.  I can understand why some people may wish it was a requirement.  
 

We will know in a couple of years.

[Pinboy]

19 hours ago, Pinboy said:

We wont be cruising for quite a while --- too costly, most likely there will be too many restrictions, daily testing , I believe there will be verbal and possible physical conflicts amongst passengers and Staff , ----overall, just not as much fun as in the past. 

Truly, being a " newcomer "  to CC I would have enjoyed meeting so many of you--- maybe another time. 

 

I noticed a " laughing face " emoji----

What does that mean as there was nothing funny in my post ?